NegativeNorwood

Yes, that's what most people do. 12 months check up visits are normal. If you want to cut corners and not have follow up visits to check the quality of the work or get it retouched if something didn't go well, surgery is not for you. Just shave it off and wear a hairpiece at that point. Lmao, didn't know that asking for good pictures means being a hater. I never said he was bad, just that we don't know good he is without good pictures. Big difference.

Then it would be even better for him to show high quality pics. See, it's a win-win situation, no downsides other than laziness (if the work is good, ofc).

The before and inmediate post op pictures taken at the clinic are great. The 13 months after posted by the patient, not so much. Doesn't show the hair slicked back. In fact, he covered his hairline with the hair combed that way: This is a great pic, but...he took at at 6 months, and as you know, hair transplants need around 12-15 months for the final result. So still not very useful: Not trying to come across as a hater or anything like that, in fact I think he would benefit a lot from taking the after pictures himself, like most reputable clinics do (ie: Feriduni, Konior, Mwamba, Zarev, etc). But as said earlier, final result pics are not good enough, and that's not the fault of the patient, because he doesn't even need to post anything. That should be Pekiner's duty, like he did with the before and inmediate post op pictures (which are perfect).

It's not because he is banned here, it's because the quality of the pictures presented elsewhere. It doesn't matter if they are 1 or 2000, bad quality pictures are useless. 0 multiplied by any number is still 0. Clinics have to present their work with high resolution, honest pictures. If they don't do it, that's their choice. If they don't do it, it's safe to assume they have something to hide. Patient posted results are just a confirmation of the results posted by the clinic, and can't be solely used to judge the clinic's work because they are not taken with a good camera and following a detailed protocol, simple as that. This is for any reputable hair transplant clinic, not just for Pekiner. Not going to waste more energy with this btw.

3 years wait list for surgery, 2 years for in person consult. It has been like this for years. Also stopped accepting consults for several months to keep up with demand (and did this more than once, look at his Instagram comments where he replies to people that ask him for prices). No idea if he accepts consults currently, ask him on Instagram, despite the demand, his clinic stuff is responsive to dms. Prices are 4,5€ per graft, VAT included for non repair patients, and 5€ per graft, VAT included for repair patients IIRC. Has been without a website for years, the demand from the Youtube videos alone is so big that he doesn't need forums or even a website.

Keep coping and doing mental gymnastics. I have no agenda against Pekiner and think the same about any doctor without proper pictures of his/her work. Not going to lose more IQ points arguing with you.

Probably edited, can't be trusted because is posted by the clinic: Trusworthy, can see the hairline perfectly and 100% valid because it is posted by a patient: LOL, no comments. Hair mills exist thanks to people like you, no doubt about it.

Two words: keep coping And: good luck, unironically you are going to need it. Not the authenticity (his patients clearly are real), the quality. Because those pictures are useless to draw conclusions. Read this, the pictures were taken from the italian forum and were posted by him, the links were removed:

@Anon94 This is a Pekiner patient. 16 months result. Does he have doubles or triples in his hairline? Does it have enough micro and macro irregularities to look natural? Does it look soft or harsh to you? Answer: you can't tell with this pic because you don't have x ray vision or superpowers Another Pekiner patient. Again, 16 months result. Same questions as before. Answer: you can't tell with this pic because you don't have x ray vision or superpowers Compare it with this: 16 months post op. Night and day difference, now you can see the hairline clearly (and conclude that the surgeon did a great work). According to you, the Pekiner ones are better because they are posted by the patients, and this are worse because they are posted by a clinic. Just use your eyes to see how wrong you are. It doesn't matter if Pekiner has 1 or 3000 patient posted cases online, with those pictures it is irrelevant. It's the same as not posting any picture because they are useless. The sooner you learn this, the better for you.

I'm talking about his pictures posted on Reddit and Bellicapelli, not here. It doesn't matter if they are posted by him or the patients, they have to be taken with a pro camera, with hair slicked back, wet and dry to be valid. You are looking at the wrong things. Patient posted pictures are great, if they are taken properly (high quality camera, hair slicked back, wet and dry)...and guess what, 99.999% of the time they aren't, because they are taken with phones. Same with clinic posted pictures, no excuses to be a clinic and post pictures taken with cellphones or low light levels to fraud density. You have to look at the quality of the pictures, not who posted them. Doesn't matter if on Reddit, Bellicapelli or Facebook, he doesn't have quality pictures of his work posted, either by him or his patients, period. No way around it.

Great work, looks very natural. I wouldn't be able to tell he got SMP if I didn't see the before.

How is stating facts getting ridiculously low? Pictures are the most important and low resolution patient posted selfies don't let you see the work clearly. You don't know how good Pekiner is, he could even be better than Konior, but you can't tell with those pics. This is how a proper, well reputed doctor that charges 3€ per graft presents his work: You may like or not like his work, but at least you can see it clearly and judge for yourself. Patient posted selfies taken with low resolution, lens distorted cellphone cameras don't mean anything, doesn't matter if from 1 or 1000 patients. 0 multiplied by any number is still 0. You imagine the results are good, because you can't know it 100% without good pictures (which he doesn't present, and that's his choice, 100%. He doesn't present his work well because he doesn't want to, not because he can't, and that's bad for everyone, him included if his work is actually good.) It is what it is, you can spin and twist it in the most colorful way possible, but facts are facts. Imagine risking losing 5 figures cash on hand and engaging in shady tax evasion tactics for the benefit of third parties when you can get world class results by the same price in different countries, paying with your debit card or via bank transfer. All of that for a doctor who's results you imagine to be good (yes, imagine, because again, you can't tell with those pics). Paying large sums of money in physical cash may be normal in some countries, and so was incest among royalty centuries ago. Normal or standard doesn't mean good. That's not a good reason. And 10% taxes is very low btw, Andorra is a certified tax haven and has 10% taxes. More than that is abusive IMO, I agree with that btw.

Don't understand well how small suegeries can be scheduled in 2024 but consultations in 2025... doesn't a small surgery need a consultation too? I guess it would get earlier consultation date in that case (like first months of 2024), but could be wrong. Can you please clarify on this?

Very interesting how despite being Norwood 6 you have much more prominent temples than me being Norwood 2 😅 Things look good despite being in the ugly duckling phase IMO, if it grows well, you'll have an amazing Norwood 1 head of hair 👱‍♂️

Yeah it should be a piece of cake for him to do it ngl, all the work I've seen from him is spectacular. Not surprised with the repair patient's brilliant outcome. Your thread confirmed my thoughts about Zarev. Most people here say that he is the best for high norwood cases, but actually he is the best for low norwood cases too (thanks to his ability to extract more grafts, virgin scalps and low norwoods benefit even more from it since they are getting it from the first transplant). I'm looking for eyebrows, hairline (mostly on temples, definitely not a big case by any means, I'm like Norwood 1.5-2 at most) and a small beard to beard transplant, so I'll just book a consult with him since I want to get it done in 2 or 3 years either way, so I don't care about the wait time. Thanks for sharing the info, hope you update us with the pics when you have them. Best luck with everything!

That's amazing. Just out of curiosity, did he show you beard to beard transplant cases? He has the best scalp to beard transplant I've seen on his website (4800 grafts 0_0), so I assume he will do smaller (ie: less than 1000 grafts) beard to beard without any issue tbh.

Truly amazing, what Zarev does is revolutionary. I hope he can patent his method and train more surgeons, so everyone can benefit from having 50% extra donor hair (more precisely, extracting more grafts from their donors). That + the possibility of Verteporfin working to heal scarring and regrow part of the donor = no more alopecia (as long as one has enough money to afford such treatments ofc).

Awesome post, hope your surgery turns out great. This also confirms my suspicions: he's able to extract more grafts than other surgeons with his technique. Doing some math, if your virgin scalp had 14000 donor grafts available with his technique, and now it has 9000 because Zaifi extracted 2700 with more conventional FUE methods, that would mean: 5000-2700=2300 extra grafts. Zarev can extract 46% more grafts with his techniques (!). So, if a person's donor area is 6000 grafts with a different surgeon, that would mean almost 9000 grafts with Zarev. And he could extract even more if he takes 80% of the donor as he told you, assuming the patient wears the hair short forever. Next level for sure, also love how detailed he is with the planning and presentation of his cases, puts everyone else to shame:

40% tax is abusive IMO, that's quite understandable by him then tbh. But doing that to avoid paying 10% tax would be hilarious ngl, almost Bond villain tier lmao.

Let me get this straight: - You'll fly to Turkey with 10k euros at hand (as if no one could rob you or you couldn't lose your luggage with your money there). - Pekiner would have to pay 10% taxes if you pay him via debit card or bank transfer (very low, I'm not pro taxes but still 10% is quite fair. IE: Andorra is a tax haven and has 10% taxes). Tax haven tier low taxes are still not enough for him, so you have to take this huge risk of carrying large amounts of money instead of paying via bank transfer like any normal person would. - He doesn't have proper after pictures of his work, just patient posted selfies and is not recommended here. I would understand the struggle if he had high resolution pictures taken with a pro camera showing Konior tier results at the 3€ per graft rate he charges, but not with useless low resolution, lens distorted patient posted selfies taken with phones. Idk man, sounds risky af. Best luck.

Best beard transplant I've ever seen. Taking the grafts from the neck and cheeks should be done always as long as the donor capacity and patient's goals allow for it. I haven't seen a single scalp to beard transplant that looked natural. In comparison, a proper beard to beard transplant like this looks amazing and indistinguishable from a natural beard. I would like to see post op pictures with the beard trimmed at the same lenght as the before ones tho, but still looks perfect tbh.

Amazing result. Love the high resolution, honest pictures. Does Dr Mwamba perform eyebrow transplants too?

More than top density, top coverage would be what you are looking for: The best doctors achieve the illusion of native density with the minimum number of grafts and maximum naturalness. I think the best in the world for that purpose are Konior, Munib Ahmad, Feriduni, Couto and Zarev. Those are the ones that come to mind atm to me.