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Thanks for replying! Couldn't understand well what you want to say with "unless the patient has thin hairs from himself". Does it mean that the patient has to have donor hairs 100% suitable for the temple transplant? Sorry for the dumb question btw.

That's why I chose my username, it's even funny how low that hairline is. I imagine every hair mill "doctor" has a poster of that guy in his room lmao Something like this IMO is a perfect hairline: He still has the same hairline at 35 yo, good genes come in packages I guess, lucky bastard.

Love the honest, high quality pictures. I wish more doctors presented their work in the same way but I understand why they don't do it haha. His hairline looks extremely natural, even in the zoomed pics no one would be able to tell he got a transplant. I'm very impressed by your work and the way you present it. Wish you posted more results that focused mostly on temples, that would be awesome tbh.

It doesn't happen to everyone, but there's lots of people who experienced hair "regrowth" with minoxidil, finasteride and microneedling. This is one of many, reposted by William Rassman: https://baldingblog.com/5-months-on-minoxidil-and-finasteride-photo/ I'm writing regrowth in between commas because I don't know the exact term, like ie: they may still have miniaturized hair that the meds helped growing out and making visible. I'm not knowledgeable enough tbh. I think trying for a few months and see what happens wouldn't hurt, the side effects are rare (reportedly less than 2% of people get them) and they even stopped in people who continued the treatment according to studies. If I were to got a HT, I would definitely hop on fin and minox just as a cautionary measure. I wouldn't like to suffer more hair loss and need a second (or third or fourth) transplant, and if I needed it I would like it to be a small one, of course.

I know that fin + minox is necessary to avoid further hair loss (ie: different zones than the transplanted ones). But I'm on the same boat, I think "juvenile" hairlines look better overall (number of grafts available for the future aside). I'm very curious about what one of the clinics told you with regards to fin + minox and the possibility of experiencing hair "regrowth" (which I've seen many cases lately, some of them posted by professionals). Like, imagine being on meds for a year and recovering most of the juvenile hairline, only needing something like 300 grafts for refinement...wouldn't that be amazing? 0_0

Amazing hairline. Love how you adressed the temples to make them less peaky and more straight shaped, it really frames his forehead in the best possible way IMO.

Both are great docs. I really like Dr. Munib's approach, he presents his cases with the highest quality, true to real life pictures possible, which inspires a lot of confidence to me.

It's hard to judge hairline height without seeing the rest of your face in a non lens distorted picture. All the face must be taken into account to establish hairline height. Ideally, it should be the same as the midface lenght. The best way to measure is with a tape or digital caliper, from the lowest part of your hairline to the glabella (middle of the inner eyebrows), and compare it to the lenght from the middle of your eyebrows to the end of your nose. This pic provides a good illustration: To me the hairline also looks a bit aggresive at first sight. You have amazing temples, which help a lot in giving the illusion of a lower set hairline. Maybe you can achieve the effect you want with a less aggressive hairline...I don't know, to be honest. Very good thread, hope to also read more responses. I also have this exact same doubt: "Another one said that my hairline is only slightly accentuated, it might not even be operated on. And claimed I can possibly improve my condition by taking oral minoxidil 5mg along with finasteride 1mg. What can I expect by following this regimen? Does it promise 80, 90% restoration? Or will it thicken miniaturised hairs to the level of fully grown adult hair? "

Wow thank you much for taking your time and drawing the hairline! Also great explanation about the number of grafts needed, very informative. I personally would like something slightly more aggresive than the original, like this: Yes, exactly the opposite case as me. He has a extremely prominent temples and a fairly high hairline, and I have a fairly low hairline without temples.

@Rafael Manelli Current hairstyle that hides temples and hairline. Koreans certainly know a thing or two about this lmao Yeah good temples are definitely a blessing, I hope you keep them forever man

Thank you so much, very enlightening comment. That's the highest quality pic I could find of my hairline before my 20s, I have this other one in side profile but the quality is quite poor: But yes I never had good temples to being with and noticed it is rare, because most caucasian people I've seen usually have prominent temples when young. High quality side profile pic from last year for comparison: Since I discovered about this I have a kpop style curtains hairstyle that works nicely covering the lack of temples and giving the illusion of a lower set hairline.

This. I was born with a hairline like that. I've posted it above. A far cry from something like this: Temples are so important, they give the impression of a framed, low set hairline. I technically have low set hairline (took the time to measure it and it is around 95% of the midface lenght, technically shorter than ideal), yet it "looks" like I have a high hairline due to the lack of temple points. Most people that want a lower hairline actually want more prominent temples.

Thank you so much for answering! Dr Feriduni's work is amazing, very natural and has a great eye for aesthetics. I've first read about temporal peaks a few months ago visiting his website and seeing the edits of celebrities with and without temporal peaks there. It's a fascinating topic to me, because I never had prominent temporal peaks to being with, and most hair transplants results I've seen end up with a hairline like mine (barely no temples). As a reference, this is my hair at 19 yo and at 30 for comparison. It receeded and became more V shaped at 24-25 yo (lots of stress) but has stayed the same ever since. Hairline height seems the same to me other than less density at widow's peak. Currently I'm 31 and will probably try minoxidil + finasteride + microneedling first (and hope to get some hair regrowth from it), but my intention is to have better temples than I ever had in the future. I would love to achieve something like the examples posted in the OP or even like this if temples that big don't suit me: So yeah it was quite surprising to me that is such a neglected topic tbh

Extremely informative video. I've seen many cases online of people regrowing most of their hair with minoxidil + finasteride + microneedling. What are the chances for that to happen? For someone who is 31 yo, never has been on hair loss medications and presents minimal hairloss, how likely is for that person to get his original hairline back? I'm strongly considering getting on oral minox, oral fin and buying a dermapen. This was my hairline at 19 yo in the left and at 30 in the right btw, never had prominent temples and always had sparse eyebrows: It receeded at 24-25 yo (very stressful time in my life) and a couple of cm at the corner at most, now it is a bit more V shaped in comparison. Hairline height seems to be the same, just a bit less dense at the widow's peak. Pic is angled a bit different so it may give the impression of less hair loss, but is the most similar and highest quality I found to compare with. Do you think I have high chances of getting the hairs I lost back with the big three? Or is most likely they will be "just" a nice hair loss prevention protocol?

Now that you point it and I look closer, that's true. The images has too many things going on to draw a conclusion based on it. Still, I think the forehead slope helps giving the illusion of temple prominence.

Yes, the morph feminizes his face a lot and is very distracting, but if you focus just on the forehead, the lesser slope gives the illusion of more prominent temples. I didn't do it btw, just found it on the internet. I've made this edit to blur the rest of the face and showcase the effect more: Agree with you, too vertical and rounded off temples look very bad, but the very acute ones usually look bad too. Designs that mimic what Francisco Lachowski or Sean O'pry have temple wise are ideal IMO. Definitely, go for that second transplant as a refinement to fill them and make them look as dense and natural as you wish. You deserve those temples, so go for them! Indeed, most people just want to have their hair back. I wish I started a hair loss protocol earlier too, I'm 30 and would probably be classed as a Norwood 2 due to not having temples. I already have a consult set with a dermatologist to prescribe me oral minox and oral fin to start preventing hair loss. I'm in no rush for the ht and don't mind waiting a few years for it. I've seen that the most sought after ht docs have 2-3 years wait lists so thought it would be wise to start investigating and preventing hair loss now to be the best possible patient in the future. I have other financial priorities at the moment but can definitely save money for a top tier ht doctor in the next 2-3 years.

Glad to see you posting here, I've been binge reading your thread lately. Amazing journey. Francisco Lachowski's hairline is amazing, that man won the lottery face and hair wise. Regarding bone structure and head shape influencing hairline aesthetics, that's quite true. I've investigated that a lot and concluded it's mostly because of facial proportions and forehead slope: As a rule of thumb, bitemporal width should be 85-90% of the bizygomatic width (the width of the cheekbones) for the best aesthetics. However, what if someone's cheekbones are too wide? Then he could would benefit from higher bitemporal width because it merges well with the bigonial width (the jaw width), which is not the outlier in this fictional scenario. Also noticed that people with straighter foreheads usually have more prominent temporal peaks on average. This morph changes lots of things, but ignore them and just look at the temporal peaks, which are unchanged. They "look" more prominent due to the straight forehead, but they aren't: Francisco Lachowski has average width cheekbones and not a very sloped forehead, so the prominent temples naturally look great on him. Someone with ie very wide cheekbones and a very sloped forehead could get his cheekbones reduced and his forehead augmented before having the hair transplant to accomodate the new desired hairline with temples more prominent than ever. You know what they say, if there's a will, there's a way...(not saying it should be done in all cases, but it could be done, it's a real possibility). Food for thought tbh, sorry for the long rambling.

Mmm I think you may be right, the hair length may play a big role in the perception of his temples. Still, his are still more prominent, reaching the eyebrows in side profile. Don't agree with your last sentence, I want more prominent temples than the ones I was born with (more temple "creation" than "recreation"). Of course, within the realms of logic and with naturalness in mind, nothing alien-esque.

Agree 100% with this. Still, I was just wondering about the differences in design of most temple points work in caucasian people. Usually they end up being much more triangular shaped (or "dorito shaped"), like ie this: To me, it looks very different to this (and both have the same ethnicity): I understand it requires more grafts and is a more aggresive choice, but haven't seen this observation commented elsewhere other than for the need of using more grafts. @Fue3361 ended up with a hairline very similar to that second man, Thiago Bianco truly did an amazing job and has a great aesthetic eye IMO.

I prefer the first picture, the one with the prominent temples. The second one (edited) looks much worse in comparison. That man has an amazing hairline and temples, and still retains that hairline at 40+ yo...some people are very lucky I guess It's actually very interesting that his hairline is not low per se, it is proportional to his other facial thirds. The very prominent temples give the "illusion" of a low hairline.

It's refreshing to see such honest, high resolution, non glamour shot/flattering pictures. It inspires lots of confidence in your work. The result is astonishing, incredibly natural looking. Do you also perform eyebrow transplants?

Wow, great results! Will try it ASAP, mine are and always were very sparse and light:

Will definitely try it. Already tried serums (Orphica Brow & Realash) for a period of 3 months but barely saw any result from it. Also the results I've seen from minoxidil aren't as dramatic as I want them to be, only eyebrow transplants seem to give the results I want (at least from what I've seen to this day).

@HugoX Hi! Your case with Dr Zarev is extremely impressive to say the least. I remember reading that he showed you many examples that were not uploaded to his website or social media. Did he show you cases where the patient was low norwood (let's say around Norwood 2) and he performed an aggressive temporal peak-juvenile hairline design like the ones in this thread? I know that he has an stellar reputation for high norwood patients, but I theorize that with his impeccable donor management, the very dense, natural look of his results and his extremely dedicated, analytical approach to measurements and planning, he could be an outstanding option for having such a hairline done as a low norwood patient. In addition, he has the very best eyebrow transplant result I've ever seen (which is my other main interest apart from temples and hairline), so I'm naturally very interested despite the very long waiting list.

Excellent work, they suit you very well and clearly will bring your looks closer to your younger self. Thank you so much for the detailed response! Those Konior cases are mind blowing, the first one has such an aesthetic focused, natural design...it's just incredible. Agree that some men do get away with more feminine hairlines and that one should pursue the hairline that really wants (as long as it a rational choice, ofc). The model in the OP has a very masculine hairline, the main difference would be that the temples have more hair in them and are more vertical. Stealing a great term I've read from @NARMAK, they are less "dorito shaped" (no offense intended) than what we usually see in hair transplants. That's an amazing result. Love how he designed your temples. The result is not just dense and natural, but those temples really give a great frame to your face and masculinze your forehead in a very aesthetic way. Also IMO it adds to the perceived naturalness because of how unusual the design is compared to the more dorito shaped temples usually seen out there. Great work! I bet he is very happy I personally prefer the temples designed like @Fue3361, but it's just preference tbh. @Sitries1 hair still looks amazing.