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Thank You for your reply future HT Doc, I was just wondering how things turned out as I found the thread an interesting read. As per my blog, I am booked for a 3500 session with B. Farjo on what we call in the UK Guy Fawkes Day - Nov 5. I'm looking forward to it

What an interesting thread I stumbled accross on this very pleasant Autumnal morning here in the UK. Has the situation regarding this clinic being recommended developed any further?

I'm afraid I'm confused. Photo 3 (top down), appears to show this chap's top/vertex area to be pretty bald prior to surgery. So why, after having hair transplanted into that area does he need to take meds to maintain that area. I thought meds were to prevent continued (predictable) hair loss, usually behind frontal procedures. Apologies if I've misconstrued the time line of the photos.

Happy birthday and may your folicles prosper

Ha, Finding this thread fascinating, Jotronic calmly typing on his ipad whilst going through a HT as if he were visiting the doctor for a flu jab. Isn't modern technology amazing from Jotronic through to Terry Pratchet describing his experience of Alzheimer's. These first hand real time accounts have the possibility to give us new insights and perspectives on things. I'm due my first HT in about a month and am getting quite edgy, but Jotronic's relaxed sailing through of yet another procedure is somewhat reassuring. Please post pics - very good - Thanks

Well I've been and gone and done it, had a consultancy with B Farjo and Mick in July. 3500 graphs were recommended, 500 to put some coverage in the crown, the rest for the front third and to recreate a haitline. I've booked a few weeks off work, this is not needed apparently, but I've got some personal stuff that has needed attending to for a while, so I thought it would be a good idea to have a post op week to rest then a couple of weeks to "do stuff" It'll be dark and I'll be able to wear a hat for a couple of weeks before returning to the real World. Deposit is paid and I'm quite looking forward to the experience wih a positive, but realistic expectation of the outcome. Hopefully it's going to be win win and my results will help to further enhance Dr Farjo's reputaion.

Interesting question, not least because it may be an unanswerable one because hair styles change over time with fashion. Whose to say in years to come, longer hair with a centre parting (for men), wont be in vogue again. I think the key for all of us looking at HT's is to discuss with our HT advisors/surgeons, so that realistic expectations are arrived at.

Looking very good for 4 months post op Mick. The immediate post op pic shows that this was also a very clean piece of work with minimal bleeding, very nice.

Those results are really nice, both Dr Panine and the patient must be very pleased given the number of grafts.

Re; the humour aspect. It's a male sense of humour thing I think, pick on the weak aspect of one of your team mates looks and take the p*ss out of him for it. Big ears = oy wing nut etc. The thing is to take it for what it is and not take it to heart, wherever we work or play thre will always be some wag who passes a funny comment. Though I appreciate the occasional person takes things too far and gets a bit nasty or personal. One of my childhood memories is the Benny Hill Show and that little bloke who always used to get slapped on the head with a slapping sound effect added.

Let's send the SAS in

I agree a forum is by and for its members, the point I was making not very well is that the hair loss treatments tab at the top of the page should help most newbies to have most of their initial questions answered and then maybe seek more input from others about an issue particular to them. I for example am interested in what norwood 5a will look like some 2 weeks after a HT and if it is unoticable, hence I tend to focus on such HT blogs. The one thing I've learnt from other peoples' HT blogs is that people heal, grow and react differently to their HT experience.

To be fair to those who devised, run and moderate this site, the "Hair Loss Treatments" tab at the top of the page directs newbies to more or less all the common information they could ask for. I think Bill and HTD show great pateince and generousity when calmly and diplomatically answering (for the 50th time), the same queery posted by another newbie. Maybe newbies need to be directed to "Hair loss Treatments" tab when they first join the forum. I know I found it very informative when I first came accross this very good site. keep the good work up chaps.

Well it certainly sounds like you have done your research. Good luck with your decision

I sometimes will hold the hand I'm going to apply Rogain with under a running cold water tap for 20/30 seconds before applying. Alternatively I suppose you could keep the can of Rogain under the sink or in a bowl of cold tap water and possibly even place a cold flannel, soaked under a tap of running cold water on your head (depending on amount of hair), for 30 secs or so, that way everything has been cooled down. Hope that helps, all the best

Well said Dr Carman, great advice. Norwood, IMO there is nothing wrong with your hair it's fine mate. Use your money wisely spend it on having fun. What was it George Best said: "I spent a lot of my money on booze, women and fast cars, the rest I just squandered."

1. Yeah, I'd like to know the thought processes of the young blokes who go for this procedure, or is it just a case of looking good now and I'll worry about future hair loss as and when. if I'm right hair meds will only slow down and not prevent hair loss. I in particular do have some concern for those whose temples have receeded, so they just have the temples done, meaning down the line they may have an odd looking head of hair. Hair each side at the front but then nothing in the middle. but then I suppose they must realise this? 2. I only raised this issue because I either saw or heard an interview with a regarded HT doc who stated sessions should not be bigger than 3000-3500 sessions (can't find it now otherwise would have put up a link). So my question is does a higher number of grafts mean a lower end yield?

For a touch of sartorial elegance and a talking point for the ladies, particularly if you live in the US why not go for a cricket cap (ebay), as for your description of lop sided growth, I must say I've wondered if this is why post HT results are often shown with a side parting

Here is the choi thing (promotional link removed) Obviously something different, apologies for interfering with your technical debate

Pardon my ignorance, but is this neagraft method being discussed the same as something called choi, which I have seen discussed somewhere on the net?

Having scoured this and other HT forums for several months now and having met a number of people connected to the HT industry I just thought I'd mention a couple of things that have been playing on my mind for a little while now, please bear in ind I have no particular axe to grind regarding individual HT doctors and their staff. 1) Young lads (NW2 or under), being given HT's to build up their hairline to what it was like when they were 15. Surely this is innapropriate? Shouldn't these young potentially vulnerable kids be offered some form of counselling and be told how they are likely to look should the hair behind continue to receed and they are unable to afford future HT's or there may be a shortage of donor hair to fully cover the area from bald crown to the age 15 hairline? 2) Mega sessions of 5000 and more. Is this a new technique? Are the long term effects of such big sessions known? I remember reading either here or on another forum a highly respected HT surgeon stating sessions should be no larger than 3000 grafts. Like I said, these two issues stand out for me having since I dipped my toe into the World of HT's over the last several months.

So, like many of the personal, business patient/doctor etc relationships we enter into in life, there has to be an element of TRUST. One good thing is that at least on here pictures are being posted with number of grafts, which can give us a good idea of how for example 3000 grats should look in the frontal third, give or take.

My English buddy who sings in a rock band told me he keeps his hair using some rogain hair mousse for men stuff, he sent me some and I'm using it but at first it makes ya hair fall out, but hey, if it works for my pal Robert Plant who am I t argue

I would imagine some form of mathematical calculation is made by the physician. hairs per square millimeter x length x width of donor area. It seems to me number of hairs are easier to calculate than number of graphs or am I wrong. Though of course not knowing how many of the graphs will be 1, 2, 3 or even 4 hairs could cause an issue as people have varying degrees of these folicle groups. But if somebody only had single hair graphs and the calculation was out and they amounted to only 2500 single graphs then maybe some form of part refund or money of future procedure would be the honourable offer to be made to the patient. On the other hand someone who paid for 300 graphs but only had say 2700, but a higher than average number of these graphs were 2 and 3 hairs then the physician and his/her team have had a shorter than expected day at the office but te bonus for the patient is that their are still more graphs to be harvested if required. I'm sure the main men on this forum can enlighten us.

I am considering a HT in the UK myself, I had an appointment with Dr Shalmalak around Easter time (see my posts elsewhere re this) and am due to have a consultation at Farjo end of this month. What you must bear in mind here is that you are considering inviting someone to complete an operation on a highly visible area of your body. It's YOUR body and YOU have a responsibility to take care of it. Treat Youself with the due respect you deserve and expect no, demand any HT surgeon you invite to cut your head up and place the sliced up bits onto another part of your head, do so with due care, attention and respect. Demand the very best, it will be your money, money you have worked bloody hard for, money you could have spent on yourself, or the misses or kids. It's all about you and your perception of and respect for yourself. Do not make any rash or rushed decisions, do not committ to a HT at the first appointment, take time and think things through, then when the time is right, buy yourself a nice bottle of wine, sit down on your own, take your time, have a nice long honest debate with yourself and decide if you really do want a HT, then go for it, if you know it's what you really want. If I don't go for a HT I'm gonna buy a classic Triumph ot Norton motorbike, so either way I'm gonna enjoy my mid-life crisis;) Apologies if this post waffles on a bit, feel free to delete administrator if it doesn't make sense.