GeneralNorwood

Well, when i told Dr Bisanga that i had HT in Eugenix, he asked surprised "Dr Pradeep Sethi did your HT?". I replied that it was Dr Priyadarshini. Later Dr Bisanga said, that he will bust Dr Sethi's balls about this case 😂 Sethi can try to BS patient like me, but not such experienced doctor like Bisanga

No it wouldn't. I never saw that they took resposinibility for their mistakes. But i saw attacking patient for being unhappy of his procedure What can they say. That patient agreed to this plan and repeat this weak argument that "there was risk to implant between existing hair".

Yeah, that was the plan to grow hair longer and comb it back, using headband like @Rolandas did after 1st HT. I am checking it sometimes if it looks good, but now it's still little to short to make propper slickback. I can give it few more months to grow and decide if i want to keep hair longer or cut it short. However my situation is different then Rolandas, because my lateral humps area is worse. Dr Bisanga told that my lateral humps are going NW6/NW7. I am using fibers, but i don't like using this sh*t. You have to use hairlocking spray too and it's not good for hair. It's not solution that you want to use everyday. Personally i don't want to use it at all. Fibers blend the color, but do not give density. It repairs color of "white triangle" thing, however front is dense and curly and back is flat and not dense, so it looks weird. I was thinking about coloring all the hair, so the miniaturised hair will have same color as the transplanted one...

1500 to the Crown and 1000 to midscalp. Funny thing is that during 1st HT she said "if you hadn't so much hair here on the crown, i would implant 1500, but in this circumstances i can do only around 300". Now 1500 is fine. Maybe even 3000, why not 😂 The issue here is just not being honest with patient and not presenting solid few steps plan. Of course, now i am not in a hurry. I will make professional photo shoot soon then maybe i will buzz cut my hair, because it pisses me off. I have to come now with solid plan, not some retarded one like in 1st procedure.

Instead of implanting in this white area, Doctor pushes forward and implant in blue area, because patient said that he wants the temples, because he saw great marketing videos from Eugenix on youtube. The outcome - patient looks like sick person.

We didn't talk about getting grafts outside of the safezone, but i will ask about this.

Imagine that i was graded Norwood 3V by Eugenix, that was so wrong assesment. I meant - one of the worst results from Eugenix, not from whole world of HT I asked her about it why she didn't implant hair there. She said that "couldn't have implanted hair there, at least not until there is enough space between hair". Same speech was about implanting hair ot the top, that it can be harmful to the native hair. But recently when i send here photos she said that we can implant 2500 on the crown and miscalp, just like that. Now everything is possible, because "will do closer implantation in this area". That's some high level of BSing That was concern of Dr Das before 1st HT, but now this concern dissapeared and she can do 2500 grafts on top. Magic 😂 Yeah, that is positive thinking, but imagine that i had more focus at my weak spots like midscalp and lateral humps, like you mentioned earlier in this topic. For my level of hairloss, treating vulnurable areas instead of agressive lowering would be correct choice by professional doctor with plan. And i could have full head of hair, just with higher hairline and without temples. I don't know if i can put trust in Eugenix team anymore. I am not so stupid anymore like 1 year ago. Vague plan to implant 2500 on the midscalp and crown is not enough for me.

It was all there, just look at the picture. She didn't take time to think about the plan and for me everything was happening fast and i didn't think it through too. They are doing multiple surgeries, consultations etc during the day and this is the final outcome of this approach. Yes, i went to highly regarded clinic and unfortunetly received one of the worst results in the hairrestorationnetwork. I will definetly consider FUT, because what can i do... Area to cover is huge. Dr Bisanga said that miniaturised hair doesn't matter, they are thin, light colored, so we need good density anyway.

I think that this areas that i marked in red rectangle are looking the most ugly and it should be number 1 priority for HT. I don't know if i want you use all ~3000 grafts in next procedure. Maybe better idea is to use 2000 and leave some in the bank. Another think is considering FUT technique, but is it profitable when i already had FUE and now there is only 65 grafts/cm2 in donor?

I think that this pictures better show that Bisanga is right. The more I think about it, the more convinced I become that this HT plan was dumb.

Dr Das said that i have between 2800-3000 left in donor

Dr Das proposed 1000 grafts for midscalp and 1500 for the crown.

I asked for temple restoration. That was the project that we made together. I am not satisfied. The worst thing is lateral humps, because it looks very unnatural from the side that i have dense front and then it's bald spot on the side. The aggresive hairline was first draft of dr Das and i agreed to this. I asked for some grafts on the crown, but what i got was only 350. Lateral humps was neglected, we didn't talk about it, i didn't see at the moment that this requires a lot of grafts to look good with HT on the front. I am not happy with strong hairline and weaker midscalp/lateral humps. The final result is not good. Bisanga told me that safe zone is 4 cm. You multiply it by 26 cm and you have 104cm2 donor area. The donor area is 65 grafts/cm2. So if you take 31 grafts from each cm2, you take 3200 grafts total. Donor area will be then 65-31 grafts = 34 grafts/cm2. Anyway, what can do dr Zarev and Pitella? Take more grafts from safezone and donor will look sparse or avoid the safe zone. Concealer doesnt work for midscalp and lateral humps, because there is huge difference in density and everything behind frontal third loos flat. Furthermore, frontal hair are curly and miniaturised hair in the midscalp aren't. What is prosthesis? Fake hair?

@BHRClinic Dr Bisanga came to Warsaw, Poland 2 days ago. I had consultation with him, which was for free. He was heavely critisising this hair transplant. His main points : - My hair transplant was made without a plan. It was like building a house without foundation. - Donor managment was bad and it didn't take into account future progression of baldness. - Hairline was made too low and it was a waste of precious grafts. In his opinion Caucasians have higher foreheads and my hairline shouldn't be lowered but made on the level of native hair. - HT on temples was mistake too. In his opinion it was a waste of grafts and caucasians don't have such prominent hair on the temples. He said that maybe it can look great on instagram, but it's not natural. - He used some special device and calculated that i have 60+ grafts per cm/2 in donor area. He estimated that i have 3200 grafts in safe zone for future HT. -He said that i have retrograde alopecia starting from the nape of the neck. - I have a lot of miniaturised, vellus hair on the midscalp and crown. - There is visible border between transplanted hair and nontransplanted, it looks very unnatural. - Next steps should be made carefully. He estimated that for 2HT i need 2500 grafts for midscalp and lateral humps. I asked him what about the crown. He said that if we had unlimited donor, crown work would require 3000 grafts. - He was talking about some differences between my beard hair and scalp hair. The pojnt was that my beard is not so good for HT. - He recommended switching from liquid minoxidil to oral minoxidil 5mg. - He recorded video to teach "How to not make HT in caucasian male". So generally, this information that 2HT for midscalp and lateral humps will pretty much use all of my left donor is worrying for me. What about the crown... This is photo that i received today from BHR clinic with message " We saw your topic on forum (hairrastoration). To be honest, we believe that the actual photos you have posted do not show the real picture, which unfortunately looks worse "

Well, you just quoted the advantages 😂 won't color all your hair.The result can be very natural, hair will blend nicely

Update?

Side looks a lot better now and not only above the ear, but at the top too 😃

1.Tourist visa, i got it in 2 days. 2. Paying by wire transfer is cheaper when you use for example revolut. Paying by card requires 3% extra fee to total price. 3. I had surgery with Dr Priyadarshini Das and i stayed in Double Tree by Hilton at Baani Square, it's near clinic. Two days were included in package. I asked Satyam for 2 extra days and he booked it for me with corporate disscount. I didn't stay for head wash. 4. There was beakfast every day at the Hotel. For dinner and other meals i used app called Zomato. It's popular in India, locals use it so it has good prices. I ate pizza at pizzeria da susy and i can recommend it. Price is not so cheap like on Zomato, but it's nearby Hilton at baani square.

Today i had some sun in my room, so i took some pictures of the top. It's month 9 and there is no big improvement since month 6. Dutasteride is not helping much.

Identical twins. One took finasteride, the other didn't. Look what happens after 10 years. But jokes aside. Amazing result. This hairline was best choice for you. Now it's only matter of time for extra density to come.

@Mo1brag Can you post pictures in daylight, outdoors?

Update?

Impressive donor managment

@Xanadu It's very good to hear, that Eugenix is not abandoning Tony. I think this result is below level of what we are used to see from Eugenix, so critical posts from many of users in this topic were unevitable. Therefore, Eugenix team should have extra level of understanding and empathy for Tony and i hope that from this moment previous communication problems will fade away. What we all want is Tony happy with the end result. True. Maybe it's possible to find some extra scalp grafts and in case of donor depletion it can be repaired with body grafts. and speaking of beard graft phases, Minoxidil prolongs the anagen phase and shortens the telogen phase, so sorry for repeating myself, but topical/oral minoxidil can bring great benefit for you , Tony. It's science.

Ok, but i didn't see him being offensive or smth like this and i didn't notice that he is spamming. He is expressing in civilized manner. Banning him seems overly sensitive for my taste. If he is "suspicious", observe him further, idk guys 😆 Anyway Melvin will do as he wants 😅