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Long term planning is totally important. Oh lovely you should wear a 0 back and sides it would look awesome lol.

Yeah, he leaves a strip of skin untouched in most of his patients that might want to use FUT at a later date. I wonder why so many doctors have reccomended FUE for me rather than FUT, given that FUT has a higher density yield. Perhaps its because FUE gives you the flexibility of a shorter haircut. I understand though that FUE is not entirely scar-less. Dr Anastasakis always tells his patients that FUE dots can be detected if your hair is shorter than #2. He says if FUT is done properly the hair can be worn nearly as short. HRBR in Dublin however told me that there is a chance that I would not be able to cut my hair shorter than #3 or #4 with FUT, and they are extremely skilled at FUT. They also said that with FUE if I cut my hair shorter than a #2 there is no guarantee that it will be undetectable, although they said that many of their patients can go shorter than a #2, they just couldn't guarantee it as one size does not fit all. I have noticed that Dr Saifi is extremely skilled at stitching an FUT wound. On his best cases an FUT scar is barely detectable even with short hair. Its a hard choice picking between the two but I think FUE offers me the best risk of minimal scarring and undetectable results with a really short hair cut. Its just a bummer that the yield is lower.

Thanks a million buddy. I will post some stuff here to give you an overview of everything. 9 - 12 months down the line I'll write a fully detailed article on my website/blog documenting my entire hair loss journey and I will share that article here 😊

Thanks a million bro. I wish you the best of luck on your own hair loss journey too. Some of the hair can look thick from a certain angle, with a certain light the mid scalp can be a bit thinner though, but I think I'm progressing slow. The corners went pretty fast about 11/12 years ago. Then there seemed to be a bit more recession maybe 6 years ago. There hasn't been much of a change in the last 3 years though, so maybe I get it in waves every few years. I'm definitely still shedding but I don't seem to be on the way to a NW7 just yet. I'm hoping if I start using Regaine and keep using finasteride that I will get good mileage out of a hair transplant. Dr Saifi is letting me pick whether I want FUE or FUT. When he does FUE he actually leaves a strip of skin across the side and back untouched so that it can be easily reached for FUT if you want to use it at a later date. Most of the doctors that I've contacted have reccomended FUE. HRBR in Ireland sometimes suggest FUE first and FUT later on in life. Its hard to pick between FUE and FUT too. FUT is attractive because of the higher yield, but FUE is meant to be more efficient for hairlines because the doctor can cherry pick the follicles that best fit the hairline. On the bright side my donor is good and thick.

Ok I'll admit it, I'm probably skirting the edge of a NW3 so I'm ready to get stuck in 😂 I'm actually due to be treated next week (Dec 10th). Its scary!

That's an interesting perspective! I never approached it from that angle. You're right though!

Wow! Is that true? Its a totally crazy minefield isn't it! I live in Ireland so I was looking around Europe more than anywhere else. Bisanga in Belgium was probably the best I've seen but he was a bit too pricey at €10,000 or thereabouts. Eventually I whittled it down to Dr Anastasakis in Greece and Dr Saifi in Poland. Both seem to have impressive credentials, generally good results, mostly satisfied clients, ethical honesty and so on. It was an extremely tough choice picking one over the other. They are both similar enough in price. In the end I picked Dr Saifi because a lot of people here seem to speak well of him, and he also seems to be familiar with fair-skinned, fair haired Europeans like myself. I did find one guy who didn't get great density in a hairline job but he was much older (late 40's) and the texture of his hair was a bit thin behind the hairline anyway so it might have been done on purpose. That was one result that made me think I might need a touch up in 6-12 months.

I concur with what James C has just said. I think you might have misinterpreted him. He wasn't meaning to offend you or anyone else here, we're all here to support each other. You did say though that you had three transplants because the first two were performed by a substandard doctor, and it sounds like one, or maybe two, would have sufficed if you went to a world class surgeon first time around. Of course a NW5 or NW6 will require more than one surgery, and many people need touch ups every few years, but what we're talking about here is whether or not I'll get good density in my hairline with one transplant. James C is of the belief that I might get it nailed on one go, and you are of the belief that I might need a touch up next year. I appreciate both of your opinions, and I like to hear as many viewpoints as possible. James C you have referred to me as a NW3! Be careful there buddy, I'm only a NW2. Surely I'm not that bald 😂 Just kidding lol!

The different approach that surgeons take astounds me. Bicer said I'd need 3,000+ grafts now and another touch up 12 months down the line for a satisfying result. That's twice as aggressive as what other surgeons have estimated. Its a huge difference. Her work seems good though, so I'm not saying she's bad, but I do wonder why so many surgeons suggest other perspectives. It can leave you feeling as if you don't know who's right and who's wrong.

I see. I wonder why some clinics can't transplant enough hair in one go? As I said it would be great if my doctor can knock it out of the ball park in one go but I did see one post here where some chap said he didn't get great density with Dr Saifi first time around. I know that some surgeons can knock it out in one go but I also know that some can't. I wonder why this is. Dr Anastasakis assured me that he'd nail it in one so maybe I should have gone with him, although Dr Saifi didn't tell me I'd need a second round so maybe I'll be fine. Fingers crossed anyway. Its nerve-wracking lol.

Guys I'm grateful for your input. This is giving me optimism. Thanks for dropping by to leave your comments. James C I'm really only looking to cover the hairline; mostly the corners/temporal points. There's a good bit of recession there, but there's no sign of any need for crown work and the mid scalp is reasonably good too. You say they don't often touch up previous recipient areas? That's interesting, I didn't know that. As for density packing I'd love to get a super dense hairline first time around but I believe they can only transplant so many hairs per square cm per session. My hair is straight and perhaps finer than some and I've been told this might put me more at risk of a second appointment compared to someone who has dark curley hair. Tommy Luchesse I'm delighted to hear you have no density problems. That's awesome bro, I hope you've been totally overjoyed with your hair transplant. I'm hoping to lower the corners as part of my procedure myself. My top surgeons have estimated it will take 1,800 - 2,000 grafts. I'm a bit older than you were when you first had surgery, I'm 30 now. I've also started using finasteride and I'm going to try Regaine too after my operation, so hopefully I'll get really good mileage out of my hair. I would be fairly routine I'd say. I'm going with Dr Marwan Saifi in Poland. I can choose FUT or FUE, I think I will choose FUE.

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience of Hair of Istanbul? I know a guy that had a transplant there and he's happy with the result. My friend tells me two guys from his barber shop got transplants there and he says they have got results. I was curious so I looked them up online (website and Instagram). My unprofessional opinion on what I've seen online is: They seem to produce brilliant results, in fact, the results seem almost too good to be true. The results seem to be "perfect." A lot of their hairlines are so sharply defined and low, they are like teenage hairlines from airbrushed photoshoots. Looking fantastic, having big white teeth, sharp youthful hairline, brown skin, big muscles etc, that's all great but is it natural? It appears to me as if Hair of Istanbul provide dream hairlines. Perhaps they give people what they "want" rather than what's realistic. Then again, if it makes the clients happy maybe that's all that matters?

I see. Cool. I don't need any work done on the crown though, just the hair line and mostly the temporal areas.

I've seen other people post here saying that he reccomends it. I think I saw someone posting something that suggested a 3 month supply costs about €300. Cool. Baby shampoo sounds fun. I hope my doctor advises me to use it 😂

Cool. I'll invest in baby shampoo post-op then. Cheers.

Its a wonder that an ethical doctor would reccomend both a laser comb and CR Labs shampoo if they're both aload of bum. Looks like it'l be finasteride and Rogaine for me - yummy! I have a mad fear though that I'll be jinxed for not taking the doctor's advice to use CR Labs and laser combs.

I use Nizoral once a week but I use it as much for alleviating a skin condition as I do for thickening my hair. Is baby shampoo really good lol?

I think Dr Saifi reccomends CR Labs shampoo when you visit him for a transplant. I think CR Labs is very expensive though, €300 for a small supply. Can anyone tell me is CR Labs shampoo worth the investment or is it a bit shite like the laser comb lol?

Ah I see. Ok I won't bother buying a laser comb so. Thanks for telling me about it. I googled flutamide there and the first thing I see is that 30% of people experience bad side effects, so, I won't be going down that route. I've been on finasteride for 4 months and I'm going to start using Regaine too after I have a hair transplant. I don't know what spironolactone. Is it safe? If not I'll probably give it a miss and just use finasteride and minoxidil instead. I've never heard of eptoin either, but it sounds good. Its weird the way I've never heard of these effective treatments lol. Never heard of RU58841 or stemoxydine either, or alfatradiol. I'll leave the laser comb so. I never considered PRP treatment. I might look that up. Thanks.

Ok cool man. Thanks for sharing this interesting story. Its unfortuneate that you got caught with a bad doctor for the first two. I'm glad you got a good job done third time round though and I wish you much joy with it. I'm not so sure if everybody needs one or two repair jobs to be honest. In your case you said it yourself, you picked a "bad cheap doctor" and got two bad transplants with her. What's to say that if you picked an industry leader first time round you wouldn't have knocked it out in one? Mind if I ask what doctor did you visit the first two times and where did you get it done? I have chosen Dr Saifi in Poland myself. He is very experienced and he seems to have a plethora of satisfied patients.

Thanks for your input buddy. I'd be interested in seeing pictures of your hair transplant journey. Are you a NW3 now after three transplants or did you start at a NW3 and progress to a NW1/NW2 following three transplants? I know that I will probably need more transplants over the years but I didn't know that I would very likely need a second transplant just 6 - 12 months after the first one in order to achieve a satisfying result.

Hi guys, I'm hoping to have a hair transplant very soon and I'd like to have a really healthy clean scalp on the day of surgery, just in case it upsets anything or renders me unsuitable for surgery. I use Nizoral once a week. I have some skin issues that come and go; sebhorric dermatitis psoriasis. It would be a bummer if my scalp flared up on the day/week of surgery. Is there anything I can do to minimize the risk of a shitty ass scalp problem flaring up over the next few weeks lol?

Hi guys, Can anyone tell me anything about laser comb products? Do they work or are they a gimmick? I don't have one but if they are totally awesome I might consider buying one after I have a hair transplant.

Looks like you got a good result dude, especially on the hairline where it is most perceptiple and most important. Its also probably a good thing that you didn't get 3,000 grafts in one session because if you did so you might have experienced poor growth and your donor area would be more sparse now. Now you know that you will respond well to surgery so adding density will be an easy job. I believe curly hair makes it easier to pull off a succesful HT so you're lucky on that front too. I must say it sounds like it was an expensive job although that's not surprising as I believe Toronto is pretty expensive in general. It sounds like they could improve their aftercare service amongst other bits and bobs. I live in Ireland so I've mostly been researching doctors in Europe. Dr Anastasakis in Greece and Dr Saifi in Poland seem like good guys in Europe, and they are reasonably priced. Anyway, you got a good result and I'm glad you're happy. Best of luck with everything and kindest regards!

Hi Rob, Thanks very much for your input. I'm glad to hear that you're happy with everything so far and I wish you the best of luck and much joy with your second transplant! I'll check out your own hair transplant story tonight. You're right about my hair loss, its mostly in the hairline, and most of the work will focus on the corners/temples. Do you really reckon that could be knocked out in one go? It would be a weight off my shoulder if so! I've picked Dr Saifi in Wroclaw, Poland. He has many years experience, good credentials, and mostly good reviews. Where did you get it done yourself buddy?