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@jbx96 most likely the day you are going to have surgery. I asked them about coming trough the day before my surgery to check my donor and that stuff but they told me we are going to do everything on the day of surgery

1 hour ago, EstheticAvenue said:

You shouldn't only think of as a cost saving, Turkey has a well-established reputation for hair transplant procedures, with experienced surgeons and state-of-the-art clinics. Many Turkish surgeons have extensive experience in performing hair transplants and have treated numerous international patients. Yes Turkey has become a popular destination for hair transplants due to its competitive pricing but Turkish clinics have a track record of delivering successful hair transplant results. And Many Turkish clinics like us offer comprehensive packages that include accommodation, transportation, and post-operative care. This can make the entire process more convenient and hassle-free for patients traveling from abroad. So you can think of it as holiday and also a getting a succesful hair transplant without a worry. If you can provide us some pictures we can give you speciliazed treatment plan. Wishing you good luck!

Your Clinic is a hair mill tho so he should stay away from it 

Don’t lower your hairline. You have basically Norwood 1.5 hairline and that is awesome. Just add a little density and enjoy ur life bro 

12 hours ago, Rogith said:

Can I expect more density in upcoming months?

 

Yeeees

I am agreeing with @RTC I would not trust HLC since you don’t know who is going to do what before the surgery and what their results is on that particular step.

BHR is a better option but Perkiner is better than both of them and cheaper too 

1 hour ago, MyKindaMoves said:

Good idea, It's all a bit rushed now though with surgery tomorrow. I could pop down to 7/11 and get a marker pen though I guess.

 

My main concern now is actually the density of my donor hair. I went to BHT in Belgium last year to get a consultation with Dr Bisanga and he put me oral minoxidil for a year. I thought I noticed thicker hair on my donor areas on the sides and the back but one year later at Dr Paths clinic, after using the microscopic tool to check they told me some areas were okay for donor hairs but most weren't ideal. I know Dr Bisanga told me if I still didn't have good donor hair then he would put me on oral finasteride and I feel that's what I should do now. Rather than get a 4000 graft surgery which includes 500 beard hairs, I should wait another to see how I react to oral fin first. It could increase the density in my donor hair.

Remember if you have a second thought about the surgery tomorrow and want to stay on medication one more year with the oral finasteride you can do it and cancel the surgery. It is never to late or bad idea to postpone a surgery if you are not sure about it. Remember that you will have 4000 scars from the surgery and you can never go back once you do it or shave it off. Money comes and goes but the scars will stay for the rest of your life 

Choose pekiner 

Are you going to do another surgery and focus on the mid-scalp? The density on the first 1/3 looks pretty good and also the hairline looks nice. But the temple looks off. Did the doctor use soft hair? since it looks thick

6 hours ago, knivesout09 said:

Wanted to give an update as I approach 12 months.

The density unfortunately hasn't improved so much, although my hair calibre has developed.

Unfortunately I've also been left with cobblestoning.

Fair to say I don't consider the repair to be a success.

I'm now reviewing further options.

The cobblestoning is so obviously from the picture. He did exactly the same to me too. Gave me a cobblestoning and a bad growth and result. This is awful and I don’t understand why he is still recommended when he have been delivering bad results lately and botching peoples recipient. 

On 6/13/2023 at 2:52 AM, hairywannabe said:

Well if @Bronamath123 and @knivesout09 are reporting poor yields from procedures performed by Mwamba then it starts to be worrying. Not so long ago we had more dissatisfied patients:
https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/63234-dr-patrick-mwamba-fue-clinic-1300-grafts-5th-6th-of-july-2021
https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/65602-dr-mwambas-fue-2200-grafts-work-7-months-review/
https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/64494-dr-mwamba-june-2022-asli-tarcan-botch-job-repair

 

 

You will find more disappointing results from patients the last 6 months on Reddit too. He is really bad when it comes too growth yield 

7 hours ago, Gatsby said:

 

With the BHT. Can you shave down now or is it still noticeable?

On 6/5/2023 at 7:46 PM, futureresearch said:

I'm glad someone said this cause I completely agree. I also have afro hair and when looking people constantly tout Mwamba, Bisanga, Umar and Lupanzula so I'll check their site and see very few if any black patients posted. The only thing I noticed is they are all black themselves. I think they are brilliant doctors but to tout them as experts for afro hair seems like a disservice to black patients everywhere if we can't even hold them to the same standard of hair mills who actually do post results of black patients.

This is the exact reason why so many black patients are running a gamble to go to places like Asli Tarcan, because they actually see results anecdotally and from the clinics. I've asked constantly why those doctors are touted as Afro experts and have yet to see a lick of proof. I can find more results from other doctors like Diep on this site who are still very expensive so I don't think cost is the only factor here. I will happily take back my opinion if anyone can provide any proof because I am more than willing to pay for quality but seems like results for black people is severely lacking on this site.

Spot on. Honestly I have told some the black brothers who have contacted me regarding my surgery to run away from Mwamba and look for another clinic that has track record with real patient. I never thought I would said it but is better go to HOI than them 

I would not recommend any surgery without trying finasteride or DUT with oral Minoxidil first 1 year and then reassess. Your crown is going really far down to your donor area and your donor area is not the best either. Is better to shave down rather than go with surgery without medication in your case. That will at least give you peace in your life than getting disaster result in 10 years from now 

On 6/1/2023 at 6:23 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

Race has nothing to do with experience and expertise. They’re touted as experts because they’ve dealt with this type of hair on a daily basis. Dr. Mwamba operates in the Congo on 100% afro clientele. Claiming he’s an expert based on race is extremely ignorant.

from an objective point of view where emotions are not involved, this is not true. he has gained the expertise because of his skin color most likely - Just like Biasanga and Lupanzula. to claim otherwise is either proof of ignorance or not being truthful. 

I don't really want to discuss this here, but sometimes when I see double standards, I just have to point it out.

1) first and foremost. The fact that you use the congo card is just ridiculous and just shows simple ignorance. The fact that a person chooses to perform operations in Congo or open a clinic does not give you any title to Afro hair. why not give the same title to all thousands of doctors and clinics in Europe who works daily with European caucasian hair and promote them to be expert in Caucasian hair? because it is not logical. This is downgrading of African peoples. as if we should not have the same criteria as other continents. 

and for your information, this is not a new phenomenon. There are several Turkish doctors who travel to African countries such as Ethiopia, South Africa, Kenya, Somalia, etc. and stays there over longer periods to perform surgeries on people. In other words. This is nothing special and this is one of the worst argument I have ever heard. 
 

2)

I don't really want to discuss Mwamba because it's obvious for an objective person that he doesn't master it.

when it comes to Bissanga. I have a great admiration for him and simply believe that he is easily the top 5 doctors in the world. but he has not gained that status on the basis of afro hair. but rather because he continuously gives good results on people with Caucasian hair and that it is proven through various forums with real patients who explain their experiences and provide monthly pictures, etc.

but using your feelings and coming up with arguments like, he has a very large portfolio on Afro hair on his website doesn't make the argument any better than a person arguing that HOI are experts in African hair and has a large portfolio on Afro hair. 

I think one need to see continuous results from real patients with the same hair type on different forums and see pictures and monthly updates as his Caucasian patients with good results before we can give him this tittle. 
 

@MsAyeBeeCat:

I have been in the same 
situation like yours and know how it feels to get a botched surgery. Just remember that this is not your fault. saaaadly we do not have the same opportunity as those with other hair types. Just be careful with who you choose to do the next surgery with. 

If I were you I would have performed a biopsy even if it result in a small scar. you can cover it easily compare to us men who fight DHT daily with medications.

Congrats champ @Gatsby happy for you 😃😃

17 hours ago, MsAyeBeeCat said:

Funny, I was just reading some posts after doing a search for 'Afro' and found your post. I forgot who commented here and coincidence it was you about Dr Mwamba. Sorry you had that experience and I'll definitely keep this in mind in my future decisions. As much as the surgery itself, its also important to me that the post surgery care is excellent. From what I read in your post, you had very bad experience with staff not responding to you and being rude and defensive. This is something that concerns me.

How are things now with your hairline? Did you end up getting more work done or did your work grew in after 18 months?

Is still the same as before sadly. I have just been growing out my hair to try to cover it up but it doesn’t look good. Hopefully I will do a repair with a another doctor in the end of this year.

but guess what since mwamba and bissanga are black people have this weird and strange stereotype that they are expert in afro hair.

never seen a real Afro-patient of bissanga providing his result here or in other forums. Is weird right. don't be fooled by people who just throw out their name 24/7 when it comes to Afro hair. They just repeat it until it sounds believable.

The clinic is a mess when it comes to communication. A lady name  Carla is the main “boss” when it comes to decision-making and complain and that stuff. She is  apparently his wife. Good luck with the communication with her because you will need it

Sadly this looks bad since you can not hide it either when you grow out your hair. I have heard dermarolling should help a little bit but idk to be honest. Have you tried talk with a dermatologist?

@Marc2021

you know they can buy followers right? Just look at the likes in their posts
 

@MsAyeBeeCat: you don’t find a real patient review with Afro hair that has got any good result with him here. 

i got a better result with a Turkish hairmill than what I got with him. My hairline is thin and pluggy. He gave me cobblestoning and scarring on my hairline. I even showed that to Dr. Wong and he got shocked over the scarring the doctor gave me. 

I know a guy that got botched from him and got no growth at all in his recipient. He also has a kinky curly hair as us. Although he got half of his money back from the clinic that doesn’t justify what happend with him

@rtc did not get any good result from him. And also is another case here where another Afro guy was not satisfied with his result from Him. I have to find the link to the thread. But do your research and don’t trust people here without seeing real patient cases from forums 

@MsAyeBeeCat: i would have tried with Bissanga and see what he have to say. I would not have trusted mwamba with a Afro hair and rather got to a turkey clinic or something than to him again

@Melvin- Moderator:

genuine question.
why is not Dr. Pekiner  recommended on the list we have here? 
he is the best in Turkey and miles ahead with all due respect when it comes to results and donor management than Dr.Bicer, Yaman and Dr.Turan. 

Wow congratz with that result in only 4 month. 
Pekiner deliver always a amazing result  

How is ur progression going @taza?

4 hours ago, Rossybop said:

It caught my attention because I got a transplant 2.5 years ago, aged 30, and I use finasteride, yet my transplant has definitely thinned out. It's thinned out a lot actually.

That is interesting. Could you share your photos in between those years to now? 

I understand that you possibly had a good experience with the staff but how did you have it with Dr.Serkan Aygin?  You only get 5-10 min with him where he decide your hairline and how many grafts you are going to have within those minutes and disappear 

hopefully you get a good result tho