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Before I leave for Turkey to meet the Monet of FUE, Dr Koray Erdogan, I plan to read as much Turkish literature as possible. It's a 14 hour flight from Chicago and I love to read and learning as much as I can about the culture will enhance my journey even more.

The Monet of Fue, Dr Koray Edrogan, I believe has overnight rooms in his clinic which is an added benefit for those traveling overseas.

Yea Dr Konior, Tom Ruiz his assistant for many years, and all his staff are truly kind people. Dr Konior is a good choice. His work is out of this world. Ask Spanker- his online consult and former patient-more about himand try to see if you can get a appt. You will be very happy. Just check out some of his work on this site. Plus His operating room is listed among the 5 percent cleanest and best operating rooms in all of America. A very hard group to be among, but he is.

Dr Konior is a class act and teaches medical students at Loyola Hospital, one of the top Hospitals in America.

Looking forward to some great results. In the right hands manual FUE is comparable to Monet painting a masterpiece. Really impressed whats going on with FUE with guys like Dr. Koray, Bisanga, Lorenzo just to name a few.

Sorry to go off topic, quick question. I live in Chicago, Illinois and am contemplating traveling to Turkey to get a H.T. If the flight back is 14 hours how can you take care of your graphs post op without being noticed? Same goes for the airport, do you have to take off your hat at all? I know these are dumb questions. Thanks.

I think FUE is the future. I've heard top coalition docs from this forum say to me during a consult " FUE is just old wine being marketed in a new bottle". Well, I understand alot of these FUT docs are unhappy and it seems to me stubborn and unwilling to adopt the time to master FUE. It takes tremendous dexterity and artistry and manual FUE can turn out masterpieces in the right hands. Not so sure about these robotic FUE machines, I have no opinion because I have not seen enough results yet to judge. I think I would go to Dr. Koray in Turkey if I had the money and could do it. Anybody have any thoughts on who in the USA is doing great FUE work? Specifically the Midwest? Thanks this discussion is a tremendous help to us newbies deciding what to do. I have decided though, and have cancelled 3 times, a strip procedure. I am happy for those who got great results from it, but its not for me. My gut really tells me to avoid it. Anytime I do not listen to my gut feeling things turn out bad. I think it is unethical and actually very informercial-sleazy for clinics and surgeons who blame a patients physiology whenever the outcome is less than stellar. During the consult they do not mention that much, do they? But if your scar widens, or you have scalp numbness, they blame you! Thats why I would stick to FUE if I got a HT. It has less risks involved. I'd happily trade in a smaller yield rate than have nerve damage from a strip procedure. Nothing wrong with strip, again it is proven to give great results. But I think there has to be more discussion initially in the consults and before surgery regarding all the risks and possible damage. I am not a fan of patients being blamed because they're bodies do not heal great. That is a load of B.S. BUt to stay on topic great read on all things FUE

How much would say 2500 grafts be if I went to Turkey? I only want FUE. Anybody in the United States that has the artistry and ability that these guys are showing? What about Shapiro Medical Group? I prefer that Fue be done by a hand tool, rather than a robot. Its like asking Monet to use a machine rather than his hand to paint his masterpieces. I just think Docs that use manual punches are better at FUE...A robot is for the clinics who have yet to master the art of FUE. Another thing, whats the waiting list for people like Erdogan, Bisanga, Lorenzo? I know they are the top surgeons of FUE that use manual tools.

In the end we are all upset about our hairloss, and sometimes say things in the moment. I wish the best for everybody in this forum, the best results, good lives, and happiness. We all deserve good outcomes whether it be FUE or FUT.

I agree with Rem on some levels. This forum is not a dictatorship run by clinics, ass kissers of docs, or anyone for that matter. It is supposed to be a democracy, meaning everybody has a right to they're own opinion, good or bad. We are doing wrong by censoring or getting upset anytime somebody voices a displeasure. Lets face it the Hair Transplant Industry does not have the best track record. Some of the things they used to do, and still do, could be considered barbaric. And I have a hard time accepting the fact that whenever a patient has a poor result- Low graft yield, stretched scar, ect....- the patient is blamed and nobody ever thinks "Hmmmm, maybe the Doctor messed up". Doctors are not Gods. They are no better than us. People are all equal. Clinics please Do not promise a pencil thin scar, and when a patient does everything in his power and follows post-op instructions to a T and still gets a wide, ugly strip scar- Blame the patient, and chalk up to "Oh well, its your physiology". During a consult I advise anyone contemplating a HT to really talk to the doctor and mention that you have seen bad, ugly scars by good surgeons. Do not promise if you cannot deliver, and do not blame the patients healing characteristics when anything goes wrong. REM I agree FUE is the way to go. I'd rather lose 10percent yield of grafts than risk possible scalp numbness, a ear to ear scar, and tightness. Please people this forum is not a church where the happy headed ones line up and pray to they're Doctor the savior! Sometimes the truth needs to spoken without BIG BROTHER and his barnacled voiced choir shutting free speech down.

I agree Lorenzo is one of the best. New to this forum sorry about the random post....It is off topic I suppose. Some of the best work is been doing by Lorenzo. He really pushes the envelope and is doing great things.

I really want a hair transplant and think it could change my life for the better. However, I know the risks of permanent scalp numbness or tightness is very rare, I don't know if I want to gamble on it. I've read some lawsuits concerning Bosley and patients who committed suicide because of the pain caused from a botched surgery. Its not the surgeons fault, thats not what I'm saying. Sometimes It may be a accident, or it might just be bad luck. Maybe I am not cut out- NO PUN INTENDED- for this procedure even though I know the docs I've talked to our very ethical and very, very good at what they do. But even if they do they're best, which alot do, there is no 100 sure guarantee that something bad can happen. And once you have nerve damage, there is no cure. And I've heard of people that committed suicide because of that in the past from infomercial type clinics because they could not take the constant headaches, scalp numbness, and nerve damage. Don't know what to do?

I am torn between strip and FUE. I know the pro's and con's of both. Need 3000 grafts and I can only afford 1 hair transplant so I want to get the most coverage since I will never be able to afford to have another one again. Any help?

what about a session of 3000 grafts? How would Shapiro think about doing FUE or FUT?

I don't think his post lost any credibility at all. It is a tale of truth concerning the perpetuated myth that strip surgery is like going to the dentist. Listen, I've seen great results with Fut and am happy for any of you that had a positive outcome. Fue and Fut both have they're advantages and disadvantages. Keep on preaching brother Steve! Can I get amen! Seriously this forum is a democracy, not a dictatorship run by doctors or representatives of they're clinics, or people suffering from a Big Brother complex.

let the man speak without jumping down his throat. What is this....Big Brother watching? He has a right to his opinion without all these negative comments. I don't think pics are the only proof. Maybe

glad you shared your journey.

Believe me your doctor did not want to compromise any loss of sensation in scalp and made a smart decision, you can always add density, but if your to tight the doc may not want to put you at risk. Give it some time before you make your final judgment. The work does look very clean.

When it is raining, it is because he is thinking about something sad The police often question him, just because they find him interesting He never says something taste like chicken- Not even chicken He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels His organ donation card also list his hair He is the most interesting man in the world.

Sounds like you followed instructions to a T, and then some. To quit heavy exercise for 7 months is a very generous amount of time to let your scar heal. It sounds like you did everything possible to make sure your results would come out as advertised. Very sorry this happened to you it sounds like the goods were not delivered.

But I do believe that sometimes when results turn out poorly the blame cannot all be placed on a patients physiology. It runs both ways. If the clinic has any ethics at all they will be willing to work with you and sit down and talk about what happened and what should be done next. Sometimes things just don't work out and the dice roll the wrong way but if you followed all your post-op instructions and did your part then I think you have reason to be upset. Half of a hair transplant success is what the surgeon does, the other half is post op discipline. Keep us updated and I expect your Doctor will get back to you so you can get closure and possibly a path to a better outcome.

I know you asked for your money back and your request was denied. However, do you believe at this point that you and the Doctor can have a rational, civil conversation and work out whatever matters need to be resolved? Most reputable Doctors will not shut the door on you so I hope you and your Doctor can reach a mutual agreement and work this out in the best way possible. Good luck to you.

There are alot of Docs on here that specialize in scar revision. Do your research and I think that they could help you.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me- HERB BROOKS, COACH OF 1980 USA OLYMPIC HOCKEY TEAM. I find if sickening that such shameless butchery still occurs as if it were the pluggy 80's! If you were promised a "pencil-thin scar" and ended up with a disfigured scalp it is the fault of the Dr and I hope the clinic is ethical enough to resolve this issue with you, at the very least a free scar revision although I think you deserve much, much more. Sorry this happened to you I know as a hair loss sufferer you put your trust in the hands of somebody you thought could change your life for the better. I don't know how the Doctor sleeps at night.

Thanks Dr Charles I am always glad to see that you take time to answer questions that come from the hair loss members of this forum. I suppose you would have cut extremely deep past the fatty tissue to do severe damage that might result in long-lost sensation or an aggravation of scalp tingling and numbness. Everyone's physiology differs so it is impossible to look into any crystal ball and predict the future. However, from what I've heard the chance of permanent nerve damage is minimal to none. As the nerves repair themselves, much in the same way that the tubers of certain species of plants regenerate lost tissue over a short period of time.