Slickers

Most will agree you shouldn't let local convenience be a factor. Have a look at the various results on here and other forums. Have a look at the clinics results and also, and most importantly, patients results. Get yourself a shortlist of doctors whose work you like and take it from there. You might end up back at the original doctors you've shortlisted but your starting point being they're in your home town is the wrong way round in most peoples view.

Hariri did you get them re-implanted, and if so did they grow ok? Really interested in this as I have a random outliers from my Armani HT. I didn't want to complicate matters by getting Rahal to extract them but something I would consider down the line....

Glad I'm not only one

I think this sounds plausible, I don't know about it happening often though. I don't see many results these days, very few in fact where there are obvious doubles in the hairline. It might be easier to accept this is what could've happened if there was a good yield, but combined with the obvious spareness, a seemingly poor scar to boot, the overall conclusion just seems to be poor quality work. It's funny you say about the human element though, this is obviously crucial but frequently overlooked. I thought about this a lot when I was booking my surgery. Even in my own work place I just thought of how differently motivated people can be on Mondays (sometimes poorly, BBQ's on sunday maybe, drinking, hungover from family events) and on Fridays, looking forward to the weekend, mind elsewhere perhaps. This is why I elected to have my surgery on a Wednesday. My thinking was on the balance of probability people are fully into their working week, nobody really does anything on a Tuesday night so *hopefully I'm getting everyone at their peak performance. Somewhat OCD perhaps, who knows but the logic appealed to me.

The growth looks superb for just 6 months, no problems there. And your pics are brutally honest, unlike how many clinics post their post-ops with the hair combed to the side to make it look even fuller. A bit of styling, some hair products and you would never have guessed you had ever experienced hairloss. The scar/ shock loss however is disappointing and I feel for you. Do you have any pics of your original scar from your first procedure?

You can't post the name of the clinic? What, Bill? Is it a coalition doctor/ clinic? I certainly wouldn't be going back there. It's 2013 ffs, who is still putting doubles in hairlines. They can be 'hesitant' about it all they like but your hairline says otherwise. How many grafts did you get (or pay for)?

Dr Dorin

Fue I wouldnt sweat it. For many clinics it's typical for a tech to do the extractions. I think people get too caught up in this but the extraction process is a replicable, repetitive process once a technique is developed. People obsess about this stuff but you don't need a medical degree for every individual task. Frankly I don't care what qualifications that person has as long as they have excellent dexterity and have done it competently thousands of times before.

Here you go. Same doc but I opted for FUT http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/170591-uk-ottawa-few-days-rahal-2000-grafts-fut.html

Lol, sorry fella. That's skim reading for you! Well, hopefully it's a pretty good indicator of where you'll end up. Looking forward to your (actual) 3 month pics then. I'm only 3 weeks behind you. This stage sucks it really does.

Fue that's some impressive growth for just 3 months. Cosmetically it makes a big difference, you really suit the buzzed look. It must be a relief to have that much growth so early, congrats!

I'm sure Bill will explain soon enough!

Matt glad to hear it. Hope the personal matters are way behind you. Good to see you back on here posting.

You have a mullet to kill for Spanker. You're the guy that guys like me look at and think, man I wish I was born with hair like that. :eek: That and 2000 grafts from the incredibly talented Dr K to refine and that's a smokin head of hair. Congrats mate

Very nice Mick. Promise not to derail this thread

It's just some scabbing attached to the hairs. Def nothing to worry about. In fact (feeling a bit more rationale today) I've never seen any correlation in how the hair sheds and good/ bad results. And grafts don't just fall out of your head. With the exception of the vastly ridiculous perhaps (injury/ trauma to your scalp), what happened on the day of your surgery will determine the success of your HT, not so much the countless things we fret over in the weeks that follow.

Haha cheers guys. It's amazing no matter how much research you've done, been through it before etc how easy is it to over-analyse things when you're just waiting for things to happen. Roll on the next 6 months...

Hi mate. Were all or the majority of your hairs hook hairs? I had quite a few hook looking ones but a lot were just normal hairs, others with bulbs at the end. All sorts really. I didn't really analyse it at the time but now wondering if there should've been more hook/ transplant ones on my pillow! .... I'm prob also just having one of those doldrums moments where you worry about everything... :eek: ha

Concealers are trial and error. Some guys swear by Dermatch, others Toppik, Nanogen, Couvre or Caboki.... it depends on lots of things, hair characteristics mainly, where the loss is.. frontal, vertex, hair colour etc (some mention Toppik medium brown for example has a greenish tint). In my case I used a small dab of Couvre as a base and used Toppik to thicken the hair and brushed it through. It looked really good, no one could ever tell I had anything in my hair (at least they never said so, my girlfriend never even knew I used them). I would add though that I think you need to have decent length to your hair to make them work. Do be patient though, the trick is to persevere with them until you get it looking right. Instead of going and spending a fortune though, go to YouTube and search vids on each of them. Find guys with loss akin to yours and narrow it down that way. Best of luck.

Or you could also compare it to Sirius' 2500 FUT result http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/163482-2500-grafts-dr-rahal.html For the sake of balance it's also worth highlighting that you were a repair case. This is the importance of seeing results from patients. I like what I've seen from Dr Doganays clinic. However I look forward to seeing more patient experiences as well.

Looks excellent. That's a cracking result for that amount of grafts.

Congrats Throwaway. Look forward to seeing your write up and your pics. Good luck with healing up.

It depends on the type of concealer. Couvre and others which are dabbed onto the scalp, I can understand why they 'could' contribute to hairloss through breakage and the friction action of applying them. Although I have to say I used Couvre for years and it was superb for me. I never noticed any worsening of the area I applied it to. My approach was to use it as sparingly as possible which still gave me what I needed. And since I was using minox at night on the area I felt I was offsetting any impact the Couvre 'might' have had. Again I don't think it worsened the problem in my case, in fact it was a life saver. Hair fibres like Toppik, Nanogen and Caboki I think even less so. UNLESS there really is some ingredient that causes your hair to fallout as Hairklepto speculates. The actual application and the way in which the concealers work however........i.e. fibres bonding to the hair, I fail to see how this can be any more traumatic for the hair than simply brushing it or combing it. In fact if your hair falls out because of this and doesnt recover, in all probability that's hair that is falling out no matter you do. This is the problem with anecdotal evidence. One guy can report it and who knows what other factors were involved. I would take comfort in the fact that very few people report losing more hair because of concealers, I have yet to see any...... if however you are ultra cautious and it would affect your peace of mind you might want to give them a miss.

I agree with Matt. Given your donor, how you wear your hair i.e. the length you wear it at the sides and your level of loss I think you should seriously consider H&W or Rahal. Both are in Canada and have scores of patient cases of this size of session. Clinics posting results is all well and good but of the doctors you've mentioned how many actual patients results / threads have you seen? No clinic bats 100% so clearly the more patient posted results you can see, especially cases very similar to your own the better. Also based on Reddy's average price stated on here, a procedure of that size would set you back circa $40,000 canadian. Food for thought. Best of luck with your decision.

Are you on Fin as well? Regardless, two weeks off minox won't make that much difference.