Senior Member Predator Posted August 23, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 Hi All I'm 3 days off 12 Months, some of you might have followed my thread. http://hair-restoration-info.c...861/m/7591070404/p/6 As a Clint Eastwood fan I've divided my 12m blog into 3 sections: The good http://www.hairtransplantnetwo...opyID=4058&WebID=920 The bad http://www.hairtransplantnetwo...opyID=4059&WebID=920 And the Ugly http://www.hairtransplantnetwo...opyID=4060&WebID=920 My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Rahal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Predator Posted August 23, 2009 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 All these pics were taken this week Considering "The good" Certain pictures you can take- and I stress it is about certain pictures, can make it look really good indeed. No argument there. "The bad" Look a little closer and your getting into the world of cover ups again, your noticing a hell of a lot of hairs on your basin "The Ugly" Stip away all nice lighting, brush it back in force and see where you really are. I've lost a lot of grafts, I don't know why, but it seems to coincide with extreme itching I'd be interested in knowing why or what I may have been doing wrong. If you look at the last pic. The left does not have the graft density, that was originally planted. I won't be going to Dr Rahal to complain, cos two months ago I had the result I wanted, I don't know why it's slipping now, but I won't blame my surgeon. He can put them in, but he can't control if they stay or not. I can also live with my result very happily, assuming it does not get worse. What I'd like to know is how did I get here as I was at the point of a perfect result-That I will be asking him. Looks like the second HT is something I have to assume is unavoidable. Keep the faith Pred My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Rahal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Predator Posted August 23, 2009 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 i'd like also to reiterate here that Dr Rahal is a top doc and there is no way to get a total result if you have 5000 hairs planted into and area where you lost 20000. I came pretty close though, and I only wondering why it is getting worse and not better. My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Rahal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsakalos Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 well u know better since u can see it in the mirror but what i see from the pics is a result that i like. and i whould be happy with. maybe u need 500 in the right temple and thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted August 23, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 I think it looks great. I'd be stoked. Even the bad and the ugly pics look solid to me. >I came pretty close though, and I only >wondering why it is getting worse and not >better. Are you going through a seasonal shed, perhaps? Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Logan_P Posted August 23, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 I'd kill to have your "ugly"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aska Posted August 23, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 Did you stopped Rogaine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Severn Posted August 23, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 I don't know what we are supposed to be seeing on the "ugly" pics. I think the *slightly* see through hairline makes it look very natural. I'd be careful because I've seen a few pics where it's a dense rigid hairline and it looks artificial and odd. Of the three sets of pics, I would prefer your "ugly" pics over the other two for a natural look IMO. It looks damned near perfect to me. My Hair Loss Web Site - Dr. Ron Shapiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mp96 Posted August 23, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 Pred, All honesty, I would be jumping on a trampoline with your result. I think your hair looks more than good and I like the "James Dean impression" also. My opinion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member dakota3 Posted August 23, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 Sorry you arent going to get alot of sympathy here! You have a shit load of hair. Unless the camera lies it appears to be a perfect result and like Severn said any more in the hairline and it'll look fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member coscanoer Posted August 23, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 Yeah you're nuts, you crushed it, about as good a result as is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted August 23, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 A HTN classic: "Predator" shows us his James Dean hair and we tell him how crazy he is to not be utterly elated with his result. But ya, I'm not sure why your hair would he suddenly thinning....at least not the HT hairs....could be a shed, or could simply be MPB further revealing itself. You have a reallyreally good head of hair by virtually anyone's standards, though, outside of a 16yr old Disney star, perhaps! ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairloser1 Posted August 23, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 I think you did everything right. You used almost 3k grafts just to rebuild and lower your hairline. From what I remember you had a very strong (somewhat receded) forelock, so just the recession in front and in the corners was filled in. I don't really know what else you could have done other than go to a doctor that would have planted 4000 grafts in that area. Other than one doctor out there, I don't think anyone would have used that many grafts for your hairline. Based on the thousands of photos I've looked at (as we all have, I'm sure), it looks like just about all the grafts came in and the result is exactly what you should have based on the grafts. Maybe a slight shed has occured for some reason and it will thicken up again in the coming months. If I were you, I'd be more concerned about keeping all that thick hair you have behind the HT. Finasteride and minoxidil would be my friends for life. Congratulations on a good result. I know from your posts it was a hell of a journey. I'm glad it finally turned out like it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Predator, Losing transplanted hair is highly unlikely. You already had a good bit of natural hair in the front. Perhaps the natural progression of hair loss is continuing? Truthfully, your hair still looks great. But since hair restoration is a long term process especially since hair loss is progressive, it's possible in time that you may need subsequent sessions. If you're not on Propecia and or Rogaine, I encourage you to consider looking into it. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted August 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 Dude, I'm sure no one wants to dismiss your feelings. It's never fun when any aspect of your appearance bothers you. We all know that. But, I have to agree with what everyone else has said, your hair looks great! I hope that the thinning you are experiencing does not continue but, at this point, I would be a happy camper with your results. Cheers David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Predator Posted August 24, 2009 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 Thanks for your inputs guys One thing I'm not looking for is sympathy, I know a lot of guys would take hostages or hold up banks for my result- Though I never wanted to be compared to a Norwood 6 result Here is a pic taken one month before the procedure http://www.hairtransplantnetwo...opyID=4064&WebID=920 It shows it was going fast and I've come a long way since then What I wanted to show in this thread is an honest assessment of where I am. Despite the rollorcoaster ride I never criticised my surgeon, even by implication; because he did the best job possible with relative poor laxity and an average donor. (He got 2886 out planned was 3000) I've not been calling him up or sending mails, because the problem, if there is one lies with my shedding. I've taken proscar 1.25mg a day since March 2008, i don't touch anything else- minox I can't use as I get heart palpatations-Not so good for 41 year old. Cause I realise that HL is progressive and I certainly aint gonna get back to where I was at 20, or even 30 http://www.hairtransplantnetwo...opyID=4065&WebID=920 If I have my reservations, that's not a reflection on anything other than the chemical make up of my body and I can fully understand that anyone apparently complaining about a result like mine, would be a "red rag to a bull" for guys who have severe loss, or botched transplants behind them. But it's all relative and each person has different expectations- I know a beautiful woman, who is a real head turner- I'd give her 9 out of 10, but she never smiles because her teeth look like a row of bent over gravestones. I asked her why she was not prepared to accept that if everything else is perfect, a slight imperfection is a benefit. All she see is the imperfection- nothing else BMS. I guess when you latch on to an issue you lose sight of the entire picture- That is also the danger My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Rahal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NW4recession Posted August 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 Predator, Thank you for the presentation of your results. It really shows what a person can realistically expect. The "good" pictures are amazing. The "ugly" pictures do look a lot more sparse, but it is still a major improvement from where you came from. Your hairline frames your face nicely. Keep us posted on the shedding. I hope that situation improves for you. My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NW4recession Posted August 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 MP96, good to see you back on here. How are you liking your results at this point? Do you have any photos to show us ? :-) My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairHope Posted August 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 You got to be kidding me. Dec. 2004 - 1938 Grafts via Strip Feb. 2009 - 1002 Grafts via FUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member wantego Posted August 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 Predator, I think your pictures look good. I also personally know how deceiving some pictures can be though so I can understand your mixed emotions. 3 people (family/friends I saw on a family trip) that had been excited by my own pictures were let down when they saw my actual results in person recently. 4374 grafts-7/2/2008-Dr Rahal 485 singles 2336 doubles 1526 triples 16 quads 9809 total hairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member M1A1 Posted August 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 Predator, Thank you for sharing your pics with us and being so honest about your results... In addition, your result is a huge cosmetic improvement. Good illusion of density. However, it also shows how lighting can affect the HT. Moreover do you feel better about the procedure-are you more confident-has your quality of life improved-do you have more fun-do you think about your hair less? Can you move on in your life? These are all questions that ony you can answer honestly about your HT experience with Dr Rahal... Not sure if you spoke to your doc or not, but it would not hurt to call him and discuss your concern about your shedding and possibly discuss your density issues. Take Care, My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Ron Shapiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Predator Posted August 24, 2009 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 Hi M1A1 You know the concept of "moving on" is a strange one, as if a HT is the turning point in your life and afterwards you do the things you never had the faith in yourself to do before. I'm not more confident my quality of life has not altered, women don't stop me on the street to run their hands through my hair- It's subtle difference. Guys hoping that a HT will change their relationship to women have missed the point anyway. When your in your 40's you see buildings burning down all around :-)and you'd better have more in your Arsenal than a nice HT. Doc Rahal did a good job for me, but maybe I'm a little too cynical to expect an improved quality of life from an additional 5000 hairs. However whoever does this operation and goes to the end deserves the respect anyone can give; regardless of what it means for him. it is bastard ride and those who take it are an exclusive club.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdCrZfTkG1c My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Rahal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairHope Posted August 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 You NAILED it! Originally posted by Predator:Hi M1A1 You know the concept of "moving on" is a strange one, as if a HT is the turning point in your life and afterwards you do the things you never had the faith in yourself to do before. I'm not more confident my quality of life has not altered, women don't stop me on the street to run their hands through my hair- It's subtle difference. Guys hoping that a HT will change their relationship to women have missed the point anyway. When your in your 40's you see buildings burning down all around :-)and you'd better have more in your Arsenal than a nice HT. Doc Rahal did a good job for me, but maybe I'm a little too cynical to expect an improved quality of life from an additional 5000 hairs. However whoever does this operation and goes to the end deserves the respect anyone can give; regardless of what it means for him. it is bastard ride and those who take it are an exclusive club.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdCrZfTkG1c Dec. 2004 - 1938 Grafts via Strip Feb. 2009 - 1002 Grafts via FUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted August 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2009 Well said, Predator, well said! ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member vincehair Posted August 25, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted August 25, 2009 Hey Predator i can see how that right side bothers you http://www.hairtransplantnetwo...opyID=4059&WebID=920 If you want it look to look like the left then you are going to do HT #2 and im sure that sucks. Your right side being thin reminds me about Wantego's spotty side! Wasn't it the right side!?!? So seriously is a tech of Rahal's not as good as the rest or whats up? I had to bring it up cause i know nobody else will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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