GigaChad Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Hello guys, I am a norwood 1.5 and I have stabilised and stopped my hair loss. Dark brown very thick hair Which one of these two guys would you recommend for the most natural perfect homerun hairline result? I'm very impressed by both. I will need some temporal peak work done too but not too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Turkhair Posted September 14, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2023 Both are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mrmane85 Posted September 14, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2023 Both are exceptional, both top 5 surgeons in the world. Both are also 10/10 when it comes to communication and after care. You can't go wrong with either. I would have a consultation with both and see who you resonate with best. Also check out their results and see which ones you personally prefer. If you can't split them after that then I would go with whoever is closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted September 14, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted September 14, 2023 Choose the one you feel you have the best communication with. 👌 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Big Rome Posted September 14, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2023 both top tier, elite surgeons ☑️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted September 14, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted September 14, 2023 Both of them are top notch surgeons...though my personal choice would be dr munib ahmad if you aren't considering fut Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member NegativeNorwood Posted September 14, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) I prefer Munib Ahmad's work. His pictures are of better quality and has plenty of videos combing the hair with close ups that show everything perfectly. I had Konior on my top 5 until I saw this combing video: Looks somewhat pluggy to me compared to this: IMO once you see the combing videos, Munib Ahmad is clearly better. The higher resolution pictures also help a lot. I don't think there's a better hair transplant surgeon than him tbh. Edited September 14, 2023 by NegativeNorwood "Mature hairline" is euphemism for balding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigaChad Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, NegativeNorwood said: I prefer Munib Ahmad's work. His pictures are of better quality and has plenty of videos combing the hair with close ups that show everything perfectly. I had Konior on my top 5 until I saw this combing video: Looks somewhat pluggy to me compared to this: IMO once you see the combing videos, Munib Ahmad is clearly better. The higher resolution pictures also help a lot. I don't think there's a better hair transplant surgeon than him tbh. Thanks for the analysis, although that Konior vid is 12 years old so hopefully he perfected his craft since then. I will probably choose Dr Munib Ahmad as he's much closer to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Turkhair Posted September 14, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 hours ago, NegativeNorwood said: I don't think there's a better hair transplant surgeon than him tbh. You forgot Pekiner. Easily amongst the best of the best especially for hairlines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member NegativeNorwood Posted September 14, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Turkhair said: You forgot Pekiner. Easily amongst the best of the best especially for hairlines. I don't agree. He doesn't have any high quality, standarized after pictures to judge his work properly, just low quality patient selfies. Once he uploads 20+ cases with detailed presentation like Munib Ahmad or Zarev, then we can talk. Edited September 14, 2023 by NegativeNorwood 2 "Mature hairline" is euphemism for balding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted September 14, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2023 @Melvin- Moderatorwhen is @DrMunibAhmad on your podcast? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Big Rome Posted September 14, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, mr_peanutbutter said: @Melvin- Moderatorwhen is @DrMunibAhmad on your podcast? would love to see this, not just a great surgeon, good personality too 👏🏻 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Turkhair Posted September 15, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 15, 2023 20 hours ago, NegativeNorwood said: I don't agree. He doesn't have any high quality, standarized after pictures to judge his work properly, just low quality patient selfies. Once he uploads 20+ cases with detailed presentation like Munib Ahmad or Zarev, then we can talk. But there are only 2 Zarev cases and both are patient posted selfies? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member NegativeNorwood Posted September 15, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Turkhair said: But there are only 2 Zarev cases and both are patient posted selfies? Visit his website, it has lots of cases, all of them with hundreds of high resolution pictures. This one alone has 218 pictures, all of them super high quality: https://www.hairtransplantation.bg/index.php/en/results/event/results/11370Grafts "Mature hairline" is euphemism for balding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Turkhair Posted September 16, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 16, 2023 5 hours ago, NegativeNorwood said: Visit his website I thought you were talking about on HRN only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member NegativeNorwood Posted September 16, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Turkhair said: I thought you were talking about on HRN only. Neither Pekiner or Zarev have accounts here. Either way, don't want to derail this thread more. "Mature hairline" is euphemism for balding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member TheManeMan Posted September 17, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/14/2023 at 7:54 PM, NegativeNorwood said: I prefer Munib Ahmad's work. His pictures are of better quality and has plenty of videos combing the hair with close ups that show everything perfectly. I had Konior on my top 5 until I saw this combing video: You think this looks pluggy? Dr Munibs looks much softer/ maybe less dense, but I don't think this one looks "pluggy". What does everyone else think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted September 18, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted September 18, 2023 13 hours ago, TheManeMan said: You think this looks pluggy? Dr Munibs looks much softer/ maybe less dense, but I don't think this one looks "pluggy". What does everyone else think? Nothing pluggy about it. That case was posted on here somewhere years ago. It was 2 HTs on a NW3 resulting in the high density outcome. I cant remember how may grafts but maybe high 2000s. The Ahmad case is lower density. It's actually about the same as my own (45-50 / cm2) except his design is more of a 'saw-tooth' favoured by some doctors. Great result nonetheless 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Bucky O Hair Posted September 23, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 23, 2023 Funny that this comparison came up. I am planning for my crown, and just had consultations online with both of them. I am planning to go with Ahmad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mrmane85 Posted September 25, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 2:51 PM, Bucky O Hair said: Funny that this comparison came up. I am planning for my crown, and just had consultations online with both of them. I am planning to go with Ahmad. What made you choose Ahmad over Konior? TBH I would probably choose Ahmad too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Bucky O Hair Posted September 25, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 hours ago, mrmane85 said: What made you choose Ahmad over Konior? TBH I would probably choose Ahmad too Both Konior and Ahmad gave great answers to my questions and gave near identical estimates for required grafts (between 2k and 2.4 k grafts), and I liked that because they both look to be very efficient with the grafts they use (which is important to me since I want to preserve as much donor as possible). I also had a meeting with an H&W consultant, but was give a rough estimate of 3.5k-4k grafts (which would wipe my donor out entirely, and confirmed my decision to go with a doctor doing the surgery instead of a technician-heavy one where they usually go very high with the graft count). I also reached out to Zarev, but his assistant said he's booked up for consultations for 2 years, plus another 2 years after that for surgery (which simply doesn't make sense for me). Konior is a lot closer to me geographically (and wouldn't require a flight), so I was initially geared toward Konior so I started consulting with him first. However, he does insist on an in-person consultation (which is fine) but I ended up doing a consultation (via video chat) in the meantime with Ahmad. Ahmad also shared a lot of crown-specific photos and videos, which were very impressive (not many docs like to share their crown results). Both were very responsive. I guess I just jived with Ahmad well (we have similar personalities), and I decided to take geography out of the equation. I didn't end up scheduling an in-person consult with Konior, but I'm sure he would have been good too. Overall cost and graft count estimates were the same (and both had availability in 2024), but I've seen a lot more results from Ahmad (both on this site and what was shared by him with me). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member NM156 Posted October 5, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted October 5, 2023 On 9/24/2023 at 11:58 PM, Bucky O Hair said: Both Konior and Ahmad gave great answers to my questions and gave near identical estimates for required grafts (between 2k and 2.4 k grafts), and I liked that because they both look to be very efficient with the grafts they use (which is important to me since I want to preserve as much donor as possible). I also had a meeting with an H&W consultant, but was give a rough estimate of 3.5k-4k grafts (which would wipe my donor out entirely, and confirmed my decision to go with a doctor doing the surgery instead of a technician-heavy one where they usually go very high with the graft count). I also reached out to Zarev, but his assistant said he's booked up for consultations for 2 years, plus another 2 years after that for surgery (which simply doesn't make sense for me). Konior is a lot closer to me geographically (and wouldn't require a flight), so I was initially geared toward Konior so I started consulting with him first. However, he does insist on an in-person consultation (which is fine) but I ended up doing a consultation (via video chat) in the meantime with Ahmad. Ahmad also shared a lot of crown-specific photos and videos, which were very impressive (not many docs like to share their crown results). Both were very responsive. I guess I just jived with Ahmad well (we have similar personalities), and I decided to take geography out of the equation. I didn't end up scheduling an in-person consult with Konior, but I'm sure he would have been good too. Overall cost and graft count estimates were the same (and both had availability in 2024), but I've seen a lot more results from Ahmad (both on this site and what was shared by him with me). Hi all, haven’t posted in years but I wanted to add something on Konior. I had my surgery with Dr. Konior in 2016 and I couldn’t be happier. I do need a second ht that I have to schedule. I read that Konior is about to retire and he’s not taking any appointments for 2024 but I haven’t contacted his office yet. Anyway, Dr. Konior is top notch and an absolute magician with hairlines. My hairline was gone when I had my procedure. He did such an outstanding job that I still am in awe at how natural it looks. Bucky, I don’t know if you’ve scheduled anything with Ahmad yet, but I can say that you would be in outstanding and gifted hands with Dr. Konior. Good luck with your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Recession1 Posted October 5, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted October 5, 2023 The results I have seen from Konior are top notch, but I wish there were more on this site. If you search his name there are only 5-10 results… all appear solid though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 5, 2023 Administrators Share Posted October 5, 2023 On 9/14/2023 at 10:54 AM, NegativeNorwood said: I prefer Munib Ahmad's work. His pictures are of better quality and has plenty of videos combing the hair with close ups that show everything perfectly. I had Konior on my top 5 until I saw this combing video: Looks somewhat pluggy to me compared to this: IMO once you see the combing videos, Munib Ahmad is clearly better. The higher resolution pictures also help a lot. I don't think there's a better hair transplant surgeon than him tbh. You’re comparing a video from 2011 to 2022. Obviously, the quality will be a lot better in 2022. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hairy Henderson Posted January 11 Senior Member Share Posted January 11 Ahmad charges the same as Konior? Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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