How do I fix this TERRIBLE hair transplant?

[Al - Moderator]

It doesn't look horrible, but it's not the greatest either. Your donor looks fine. I'm not seeing an issue there. If your issue was only the density then you could go back to the same place to add a bit more, which is rather normal. However since it seems your issue is also the multi hair grafts in the hairline then you should probably go somewhere else. If they couldn't reliably get singles in the hairline the first time around then how can they do it later?

I don't know who you went to, but someone asked how anyone can do multi grafts in the hairline. I think this is one potential problem with DHI where they take the graft from the donor and immediately place it into the recipient without ever handling or seeing the actual graft. They can try to pick single hair grafts, but they are only seeing the surface and not seeing what may be underneath, so it could look like a single hair graft, but have a new 2nd hair just starting to grow and not yet have broken the surface. When you see the actual graft under a microscope or at least some magnification, you can usually see if there is another hair growing and place that into the multi hair graft pile.

 

[Konfue]

39 minutes ago, BeHappy said:

It doesn't look horrible, but it's not the greatest either. Your donor looks fine. I'm not seeing an issue there. If your issue was only the density then you could go back to the same place to add a bit more, which is rather normal. However since it seems your issue is also the multi hair grafts in the hairline then you should probably go somewhere else. If they couldn't reliably get singles in the hairline the first time around then how can they do it later?

I don't know who you went to, but someone asked how anyone can do multi grafts in the hairline. I think this is one potential problem with DHI where they take the graft from the donor and immediately place it into the recipient without ever handling or seeing the actual graft. They can try to pick single hair grafts, but they are only seeing the surface and not seeing what may be underneath, so it could look like a single hair graft, but have a new 2nd hair just starting to grow and not yet have broken the surface. When you see the actual graft under a microscope or at least some magnification, you can usually see if there is another hair growing and place that into the multi hair graft pile.

 

Yes this was a DHI technique, but they still took them under a microscope. Or so they say. 

[Rolandas]

22 minutes ago, Konfue said:

Yes this was a DHI technique, but they still took them under a microscope. Or so they say. 

You can see amount of hair in my grafts clearly just by looking at it. With proper microscopical magnification I'd assume you should be able to see clearly.

It's just sounds like someone didn't care much about it as its clearly not few here and there, but quite a few.

I feel like I've got an idea who was it.

[Konfue]

11 minutes ago, Rolandas said:

You can see amount of hair in my grafts clearly just by looking at it. With proper microscopical magnification I'd assume you should be able to see clearly.

It's just sounds like someone didn't care much about it as its clearly not few here and there, but quite a few.

I feel like I've got an idea who was it.

 

Even in their post op they don't stand by their work. Their reply has been "It is completely normal to have multiples in row 2 and 3." So that just tells me how half-assed their repair might just be. If you need to know, this was Dr. Dogan Turan from FUECAPILAR. I'm now tired of waiting for them to properly acknowledge this and offer a truly professional repair plan rather than just tacking on some singles in front. 

[ITA]

damn, he was recently added to the list of doctors recommended here. 😫

[Konfue]

On 7/17/2022 at 1:54 AM, sukh123 said:

Your donor looks completely fine , and tbh I would not even think about going back , that just common sense . I would save up and go to a good repair doctor like mwamba . Repairs are difficult jobs and going to back to the person who botched you is something That should be out of the question

It's noticeable below a #4 and definitely a #3. But maybe that's my perspective, it's definitely the least of my worries. Here are some more pics

[HappyMan2021]

43 minutes ago, Rolandas said:

It's just sounds like someone didn't care much about it

this is sadly the root cause of so many botched/sub-optimal transplants 🥺

[sukh123]

17 minutes ago, Konfue said:

It's noticeable below a #4 and definitely a #3. But maybe that's my perspective, it's definitely the least of my worries. Here are some more pics

Well a donor should never be the least of your worries because I don’t know if your on medication but if your not your need your donor to be in good condition if your looking for further procedures and to sort your worries with your first . In all honestly I saw your pics and I think it’s looks decent? Obviously the mid part of the hairline does not look right , buts it’s not the worst I’ve seen tbh . Seen some consistently good results from turan on this forum lately, but like all top ones even couto , sub par results do happen even to the best and unfortunately you were one of them

[RTC]

Damn, another dodgy result, and this time from a good clinic. This sh*t really can be a lottery sometimes.

 

Edited July 18, 2022 by RTC

[Melvin- Admin]

Dear Community,

 I have reached out to the clinic for their response. While we can’t expect perfect outcomes in every procedure, we expect our surgeons to stand by their work. 

[ML488]

Pekiner, Bicer, HLC, *maybe* Asmed. Anyone else is rolling the dice in the country of Turkey. I know that's harsh, but it's just the way it is in my opinion. Mind you I've seen hundreds upon hundreds of results. Your situation isn't horrific by any means, but the fact that some members have said it looks ok and "natural" in this thread is the reason a situation like this has occurred, if that makes sense. Just another day in the modern day hair transplant world. I would go to a reputable clinic that can pull off a repair (i.e. Eugenix, Bisanga, Ferreira) have a couple hundred fine singles placed in front of the loads of multi's, and consider yourself lucky it wasn't worse. Good luck.

Edited July 18, 2022 by ML488

[THE TRUTH]

ASMED is one of the  worst  and most notorious hairmills out there. They've botched 10-15 guys on this forum...  Avoid it. 

HLC used to be somewhat better than ASMED  but I've seen some really crappy results and a VERY nasty botch recently... Stay away 

Bicer is the safest option although not comparable with the best in Spain/Portugal/Belgium

None of them is a repair specialist. 

Edited July 26, 2022 by THE TRUTH

[FUECAPILAR]

Dear HRN forum,

Please be informed that we have been in communication with our patient since the day after his procedure, with regular check-ups on the post-operative day 5, 10, 30, and month 3, 6, 8 and 10.

We are standing by our patient, offering our full support. Having said that, we cannot disclose any communication or visuals we have had or shared with our patient due to the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation of the European Union). However, if our patient wishes to disclose the communication or other information regarding the operation and post-operative communication, we have no objection to it.

Having said that, we would like the community to know that in all of our operations our strategy for creating a hairline has always been to implant single grafts into the first 1-2 rows of the designated hairline in an irregular pattern to create a natural look. While we are creating this pattern, in rare cases the single grafts around the lower points of the zigzags may not survive for a variety of reasons, thus causing the multiple grafts to come forward and create a false look as if they were implanted into the first row of the hairline. There may also be a human-error factor which we have taken all necessary precautions to prevent happening. 

We are committed to our patients' happiness and providing them with satisfactory and realistic results. With this in mind, rest assured, our efforts have always been and will always be towards taking the extra step no matter what. In order to improve this look, in our clinic we could offer 2 solutions. First solution is to implant a randomized row of single grafts in front of the undesired multiple grafts and cover them. Second solution is to remove the undesired multiple grafts and implant them elsewhere and place single grafts around the extracted grafts. As we are aware of the concerns of our patient in this particular case, we have already taken necessary actions to find a mutual and definitive solution. We also appreciate our patient's confidence in us.

Jose Navarrete
---
www.fuecapilar.com
email: myhair@fuecapilar.com
Tlf/whatsapp: +90 542 250 0909

[RTC]

1 hour ago, FUECAPILAR said:

Dear HRN forum,

Please be informed that we have been in communication with our patient since the day after his procedure, with regular check-ups on the post-operative day 5, 10, 30, and month 3, 6, 8 and 10.

We are standing by our patient, offering our full support. Having said that, we cannot disclose any communication or visuals we have had or shared with our patient due to the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation of the European Union). However, if our patient wishes to disclose the communication or other information regarding the operation and post-operative communication, we have no objection to it.

Having said that, we would like the community to know that in all of our operations our strategy for creating a hairline has always been to implant single grafts into the first 1-2 rows of the designated hairline in an irregular pattern to create a natural look. While we are creating this pattern, in rare cases the single grafts around the lower points of the zigzags may not survive for a variety of reasons, thus causing the multiple grafts to come forward and create a false look as if they were implanted into the first row of the hairline. There may also be a human-error factor which we have taken all necessary precautions to prevent happening. 

We are committed to our patients' happiness and providing them with satisfactory and realistic results. With this in mind, rest assured, our efforts have always been and will always be towards taking the extra step no matter what. In order to improve this look, in our clinic we could offer 2 solutions. First solution is to implant a randomized row of single grafts in front of the undesired multiple grafts and cover them. Second solution is to remove the undesired multiple grafts and implant them elsewhere and place single grafts around the extracted grafts. As we are aware of the concerns of our patient in this particular case, we have already taken necessary actions to find a mutual and definitive solution. We also appreciate our patient's confidence in us.

Jose Navarrete
---
www.fuecapilar.com
email: myhair@fuecapilar.com
Tlf/whatsapp: +90 542 250 0909

Nice to hear

[Marc Antoine]

 

On 7/18/2022 at 8:24 PM, Konfue said:

Even in their post op they don't stand by their work. Their reply has been "It is completely normal to have multiples in row 2 and 3." So that just tells me how half-assed their repair might just be. If you need to know, this was Dr. Dogan Turan from FUECAPILAR. I'm now tired of waiting for them to properly acknowledge this and offer a truly professional repair plan rather than just tacking on some singles in front. 

 

Hello, I'm not an expert, but from OP it looks like the clinic was dismissive and didn't stand with the patient, until their name was disclosed and they replied here?

"It is completely normal to have multiples in row 2 and 3." So that just tells me how half-assed their repair might just be. If you need to know, this was Dr. Dogan Turan from FUECAPILAR. I'm now tired of waiting for them to properly acknowledge this and offer a truly professional repair plan rather than just tacking on some singles in front."

-> I'm not an expert, if one independent expert could bring an opinion here? It is completely normal to have multiples in row 2 and 3 like stated by the clinic ?

[Melvin- Admin]

3 hours ago, Marc Antoine said:

 

 

Hello, I'm not an expert, but from OP it looks like the clinic was dismissive and didn't stand with the patient, until their name was disclosed and they replied here?

"It is completely normal to have multiples in row 2 and 3." So that just tells me how half-assed their repair might just be. If you need to know, this was Dr. Dogan Turan from FUECAPILAR. I'm now tired of waiting for them to properly acknowledge this and offer a truly professional repair plan rather than just tacking on some singles in front."

-> I'm not an expert, if one independent expert could bring an opinion here? It is completely normal to have multiples in row 2 and 3 like stated by the clinic ?

The first row should be all fine-haired singles, the second and third row has 2-3 hair grafts for bulk and volume. So yes, it is normal to see multiples in the 2nd and 3rd row. If you had only singles in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd row you would have a very see-through hairline. In nature, it gradually follows this pattern as well. That was a correct statement.

[HappyMan2021]

On 7/19/2022 at 2:33 PM, FUECAPILAR said:

Dear HRN forum,

Please be informed that we have been in communication with our patient since the day after his procedure, with regular check-ups on the post-operative day 5, 10, 30, and month 3, 6, 8 and 10.

We are standing by our patient, offering our full support. Having said that, we cannot disclose any communication or visuals we have had or shared with our patient due to the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation of the European Union). However, if our patient wishes to disclose the communication or other information regarding the operation and post-operative communication, we have no objection to it.

Having said that, we would like the community to know that in all of our operations our strategy for creating a hairline has always been to implant single grafts into the first 1-2 rows of the designated hairline in an irregular pattern to create a natural look. While we are creating this pattern, in rare cases the single grafts around the lower points of the zigzags may not survive for a variety of reasons, thus causing the multiple grafts to come forward and create a false look as if they were implanted into the first row of the hairline. There may also be a human-error factor which we have taken all necessary precautions to prevent happening. 

We are committed to our patients' happiness and providing them with satisfactory and realistic results. With this in mind, rest assured, our efforts have always been and will always be towards taking the extra step no matter what. In order to improve this look, in our clinic we could offer 2 solutions. First solution is to implant a randomized row of single grafts in front of the undesired multiple grafts and cover them. Second solution is to remove the undesired multiple grafts and implant them elsewhere and place single grafts around the extracted grafts. As we are aware of the concerns of our patient in this particular case, we have already taken necessary actions to find a mutual and definitive solution. We also appreciate our patient's confidence in us.

Jose Navarrete
---
www.fuecapilar.com
email: myhair@fuecapilar.com
Tlf/whatsapp: +90 542 250 0909

regardless of is this is accurate or not or was the case for OP, big props to FUECapillar for providing a speedy, specific, genuine, and clear response to this

[Konfue]

I've been asked to provide pre-surgery pictures and here they are. Apologies for the delay. 
I will also post the chat soon. 

[LookMaxx]

Probably just me but this looks like a great result and I had to spend a long time comparing my hairline to yours before I could see you meant the misbehaving hairs. 

Honestly made me so glad I haven’t gotten so obsessed with hairs that I can notice and feel depressed about little things like this, for a moment I felt like my hairline was pluggy too but quickly snapped out of it, hahaha

Good man, hope you find some happiness to enjoy your full head of hair and life. 

[alopeciaphobia]

Honestly dude, it could be worse. Obviously the hairline is unnatural looking, but since you're 10 months out, you could get a second surgery with a higher quality surgeon. If you lower the hairline by a few millimeters more to mask the current hairline, and optionally add just a bit more density to the frontal third if donor allows, it would look very good.

[Chka]

Did the clinic repair the issues? I was looking to go to same Dr until came across this.