Senior Member ahmed9500 Posted October 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tony711 said: Exactly. So far it doesn’t look to good. They did tell me with beard hair the density won’t be as good but need to let the hair grow out I had a similar HT to you from @Eugenix Hair Sciences and wasnt told beard hairs wont give a good density! Iv had 2200 beard hairs implanted in my crown so I hope this is not the case! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tony711 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, ahmed9500 said: I had a similar HT to you from @Eugenix Hair Sciences and wasnt told beard hairs wont give a good density! Iv had 2200 beard hairs implanted in my crown so I hope this is not the case! According to Dr Sethi he said I can get a good coverage. But so far this is not a good chance coverage. Hoping it improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingEagle1 Posted October 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, botchedguy95 said: If you are at 8 months this does not look good.. clearly a lot of the grafts did not survive for some reason, can we get a comment from @Eugenix Hair Sciences ? What comment do you want from them over beard implants that takes longer to grow, and an additional 4 more months for the 'final result' to show in most non beard HTs? Patience. If it looks bad in density in 4 months, then maybe we can get a comment then. Edited October 31, 2022 by BaldingEagle1 1 Follow my Hair Transplant experience with Eugenix! Nov 16, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tony711 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, BaldingEagle1 said: What comment do you want from them over beard implants that takes longer to grow, and an additional 4 more months for the 'final result' to show in most non beard HTs? Patience. If it looks bad in density in 4 months, then maybe we can get a comment then. Actually they did tell me a month ago to wait until March which should improve. So that’s another 4 months to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingEagle1 Posted October 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Tony711 said: Actually they did tell me a month ago to wait until March which should improve. So that’s another 4 months to go. Yup, I think you'll be fine. I've been reading a lot of overreaction from a few commenters on multiple HT threads, had to quote that guy lol Way too early to make a judgement. Happy growing! 1 Follow my Hair Transplant experience with Eugenix! Nov 16, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member civic Posted October 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 Would be great to see the before op photo, seems only after op pics are on thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ahmed9500 Posted October 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, BaldingEagle1 said: What comment do you want from them over beard implants that takes longer to grow, and an additional 4 more months for the 'final result' to show in most non beard HTs? Patience. If it looks bad in density in 4 months, then maybe we can get a comment then. Read the comment properly, he was told the density wont be as good not it takes longer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tony711 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, ahmed9500 said: Read the comment properly, he was told the density wont be as good not it takes longer! The first consultation they told me density would be around 35 to 40 cm2. Which is below the 50 cm2 which gives a illusion of being full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member botchedguy95 Posted October 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, BaldingEagle1 said: What comment do you want from them over beard implants that takes longer to grow, and an additional 4 more months for the 'final result' to show in most non beard HTs? Patience. If it looks bad in density in 4 months, then maybe we can get a comment then. I've never heard that beard grafts take longer to grow, do you have a source for this claim? 8 months is already a very long time and as far as I've read beard hair is in the telogen phase for 3-4 months just like scalp hair, which means they should pop roughly when the scalp hair does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingEagle1 Posted October 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, botchedguy95 said: I've never heard that beard grafts take longer to grow, do you have a source for this claim? 8 months is already a very long time and as far as I've read beard hair is in the telogen phase for 3-4 months just like scalp hair, which means they should pop roughly when the scalp hair does I mean just a quick google search, checking out posts on here, and asking your own doctor can help regarding the timeline of beard grafts on the scalp. Whether 8 months is a long time or not, is irrelevant. Wait until the procedure is done, then you can make a judgement. 8 months is closer to 6 months than a year dude.. and we aren't even talking about the timeline of beard transplants.. You're getting the poor guy worked up for no reason by spreading FUD. Happens in almost every thread. You have a few who jump the gun about overharvesting, blah blah, and 8 months later everything is fine. We all should know by now that results are final between 12-15 months. If its bad then by all means take out the pitch forks. This applies to any clinic btw. Edited October 31, 2022 by BaldingEagle1 1 Follow my Hair Transplant experience with Eugenix! Nov 16, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingEagle1 Posted October 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 @botchedguy95 from Eugenix itself via email: "3 months: approximately 30% grafts growth 4 months: approx. 40% density 6th month: approx. 60% density 10th month to 12th month: full density Beard hair grows more slowly and may take even longer to achieve full density. There is no measure to hasten the growth and achieve the results faster. However, PRP has been found to be effective in achieving faster growth in some individuals." 1 1 Follow my Hair Transplant experience with Eugenix! Nov 16, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tony711 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, civic said: Would be great to see the before op photo, seems only after op pics are on thread. I should have posted previous pics. The ones with long hair was in 2001, thus was the night before I was going to shave it and get a hair system which was amazing for then. The hair in this pics were most hair transplants does in the front from 1996 to 1999. Strip HT with 2300 grafts. The next set of pics are from Oct 2021 when I shaved my hair. So this was before the HT with Dr Sethi. In 2017 I did do SMP but it was beginning to fade out by end of 2021. You can also see the strip scars from the 1996 to 1999 HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member botchedguy95 Posted October 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, BaldingEagle1 said: I mean just a quick google search, checking out posts on here, and asking your own doctor can help regarding the timeline of beard grafts on the scalp. Whether 8 months is a long time or not, is irrelevant. Wait until the procedure is done, then you can make a judgement. 8 months is closer to 6 months than a year dude.. and we aren't even talking about the timeline of beard transplants.. You're getting the poor guy worked up for no reason by spreading FUD. Happens in almost every thread. You have a few who jump the gun about overharvesting, blah blah, and 8 months later everything is fine. We all should know by now that results are final between 12-15 months. If its bad then by all means take out the pitch forks. This applies to any clinic btw. I hear you mate and I agree that we should not spread doubt and fear, and of course OP should wait for the full 12 months, but since the trajectory of this result doesn't seem to match what we are used to from eugenix it would be nice to get some comment from them, even if that comment is that beard grafts have a longer telogen phase.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member shiba1985 Posted October 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 Good luck. Hope it improves but right now doesn’t look good. May look better shaved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Xanadu Posted October 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Tony711 said: Hey guys it’s been a while , been very busy, but I thought I stop by and post some pics updates. It’s been 8 months now since having the procedure done by Dr Sethi , but during all that time I was buzzing my hair to 1/2 thinking I can avoid the ugly duckling stage and the let the hair all grow out after I pass the ugly duckling stage ,but it seems that didn’t work. And Dr Sethi said I just need to let it grow out and give it until Feb 2023. anyways since august 1st I have let the hair grow. Today will be 3 months. Hair is growing and I feel the mid scalp there are hair coming through. But the density not to excited about. Hopefully, it will improve as I let it just grow. So no more buzzing the hair. Why not keep buzzing? It looked more dense when you buzzed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Xanadu Posted October 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 54 minutes ago, botchedguy95 said: I've never heard that beard grafts take longer to grow, do you have a source for this claim? 8 months is already a very long time and as far as I've read beard hair is in the telogen phase for 3-4 months just like scalp hair, which means they should pop roughly when the scalp hair does Very interest ng. Almost full beard. Yes, I belief Beard takes longer to grow and is longer in dormant phase so less are visible at any one time. But it's also usually thicker. This should be fine in another few months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tony711 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, Xanadu said: Why not keep buzzing? It looked more dense when you buzzed I know but the whole point was the grow the hair and have hair. Will give it another 4 months and see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tony711 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, Xanadu said: Very interest ng. Almost full beard. Yes, I belief Beard takes longer to grow and is longer in dormant phase so less are visible at any one time. But it's also usually thicker. This should be fine in another few months. I feel the beard hair coming out and some are extremely sharp. Felt like I poked my finger with a needle lol. I think in 3 to 4 month will make a difference. Will take pics monthly and post. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Z-- Posted October 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 Fingers crossed you see more growth in the coming months. I can def see why you're worried based on the photos, though beard hairs do have different shedding phases, so you may have caught it at a bad time. I personally don't subscribe to waiting the full 12 months, and some reputable doctors have offered touch-ups as early as month 6, indicating that it's usually clear around that point if things are going according to plan. Not much to do at this point, but grow it out and re-assess at 12 months; sometimes that adds a great deal to the illusion of density. If it turns out great, we'll be ecstatic for you mate. If stays a bit subpar, I hope Eugenix will stand by the work and offer a repair (at a minimum). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tony711 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, Z-- said: Fingers crossed you see more growth in the coming months. I can def see why you're worried based on the photos, though beard hairs do have different shedding phases, so you may have caught it at a bad time. I personally don't subscribe to waiting the full 12 months, and some reputable doctors have offered touch-ups as early as month 6, indicating that it's usually clear around that point if things are going according to plan. Not much to do at this point, but grow it out and re-assess at 12 months; sometimes that adds a great deal to the illusion of density. If it turns out great, we'll be ecstatic for you mate. If stays a bit subpar, I hope Eugenix will stand by the work and offer a repair (at a minimum). Thanks Mate! Hoping for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tony711 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 3, 2022 Hello, here is my 9 months update and 4 months which I have allowed the hair to grow. The beard is still growing but very slow. I still feel more hair coming though too. I did cut my side and back and allowed the front and top to grow. Not much of an improvement from last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 3, 2022 Administrators Share Posted December 3, 2022 It’s improved a bit since the last update, but not what we would expect. Have you spoken to the clinic. Your case was always gonna be difficult. But hopefully things continue to improve. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tony711 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said: It’s improved a bit since the last update, but not what we would expect. Have you spoken to the clinic. Your case was always gonna be difficult. But hopefully things continue to improve. I have spoken to them. They said since it’s mostly beard hair it takes long to grow out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ray35 Posted December 3, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just reading this whole thread, looking definitely better now but certainly hoping for more density, the face nicely framed that's for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ryan Daniel Posted December 3, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tony711 said: Hello, here is my 9 months update and 4 months which I have allowed the hair to grow. The beard is still growing but very slow. I still feel more hair coming though too. I did cut my side and back and allowed the front and top to grow. Not much of an improvement from last month. Hi Tony, I will be completely honest with you, it is much better to keep the hairs shorter for a cleaner appearance The longer you keep the hairs long, the more noticeable the thinning appears I expected more coverage and I hope you will discuss this with the clinic Edited December 3, 2022 by Ryan Daniel 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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