Regular Member Swedishdude Posted May 27, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Hello, I just recently had a transplant that lacks density, with multiple multigraphs on the hairline... and am now researching for a HT doc that is suitable for fixing this after this hair has finished growing. I feel anything above 5$ per graft is just far too expensive for me, downside is that most recommended surgeons are at this price tag or even above. However, I would choose them as a final outlet if there are no viable options below that price tag. So hit me with your suggestions please and thank you! Edited May 27, 2021 by Swedishdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted May 27, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Dr Feriduni, HDC (Dr Maras), Dr Bisanga, @DrTBarghouthi (Vertex) Dr Mwamba and Eugenix to name just a few. Edited May 27, 2021 by JohnAC71 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted May 27, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 Good news being they have used less than 1500 grafts, so you should still have plenty in reserve ! And you can research and plan a elite Dr for the next stage. 🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Swedishdude Posted May 27, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, qui bono said: I dont know exactly how far you are along post-op, but I assume this was quite recent given there is still some redness around the recipient and you may have undergone a shed? Do you have any immediate post-op pics to share so we can assess the density? I dont see too many multi-grafts so if that is truly the density the clinic implanted you at then a follow up operation should really just be a straightforward procedure of adding density to your current hairline. There might not be a need to remove much of it. Not sure of your location but if its Europe (?) I think if you get a doctors certificate the Belgium docs waive the 21% Vat tax, so id echoed @JohnAC71 suggestions of Bisanga Feriduni etc and consider only going to the best. That might be more affordable. The pictures were taken on day 9 post-op. Here's some pics from day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted May 27, 2021 Valued Contributor Share Posted May 27, 2021 It's difficult going by your pics at the risk of sounding rude. It appears from these pics that your sides appear thinned? Can you post pics of your sides and back donor area just so we can get a better idea of what's going on in order to give a better appreciation of your situation. I really want to emphasise what @qui bonohas said in that as hard as it is you really need to be patient for the nest twelve months as hard as this may sound. You want to know what needs addressing once everything has grown out and not before. Best to speak with your repair surgeon about this but I'm sure he/she will say the same. All the best. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Swedishdude Posted May 27, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, qui bono said: I missed that your name was Swedishdude so I assume youre in Europe yeah the density is clearly lacking in the post-op pics. In terms of price De Freitas in Spain might be the most affordable for you (amazing hairlines). A lot of clinics won't see until the growth can be properly assessed at 12 months so it's going to be a tough wait. Its good the clinic at least didnt shave your native hair behind your hairline so if you continue to grow it long it might be enough to cover it during this period. let us know if you have anymore questions Thank you! I can't find any pricings on Dr. Freitas website, because it will individually be assessed. I understand their thought process but I really just want a number to see what price range we're talking about. Do you have any estimates? BTW that clinic looks great. Edited May 27, 2021 by Swedishdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted May 27, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 De Freitas is approx €3.50 for the first 1000 grafts and €2.50 thereafter. Can depend on the case though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Swedishdude Posted May 27, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: De Freitas is approx €3.50 for the first 1000 grafts and €2.50 thereafter. Can depend on the case though. That's great. I've sent an e-mail to them to get their assessement, and hopefully have my failed transplant restoration with them in 12 months. Thank you all! I appreciate it a ton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted May 27, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 @Swedishdudeas he's now recommended on the forum, you could use the following link: https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/physician/Spain/Rafael-De-Freitas/693 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted May 27, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 Yes it’s good to plan ahead. Decent Drs/Clinics do get booked up months and even years in advance! 👌 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Swedishdude Posted May 27, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: Yes it’s good to plan ahead. Decent Drs/Clinics do get booked up months and even years in advance! 👌 Comforting to hear. Thank you for helping me see the light at the end of the tunnel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted May 27, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Pretty much all of us make a not so good first choice in our 1st Ht. You are in a great position to get the results you want, it will just take longer than you originally expected. De Freitas would be a excellent choice in moving forward. All you can hope for now is good growth from what’s been implanted. Which we know is less than 1500 grafts. It could have been a lot, lot worse ! 👌 Edited May 27, 2021 by JohnAC71 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Swedishdude Posted May 27, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: Pretty much all of us make a not so good first choice in our 1st Ht. You are in a great position to get the results you want, it will just take longer than you originally expected. De Freitas would be a excellent choice in moving forward. All you can hope for now is good growth from what’s been implanted. Which we know is less than 1500 grafts. It could have been a lot, lot worse ! 👌 Glad to hear that, although after browsing around this forum a bit I realised it is best to go to surgeons who do your specific hairtype frequently, I'm not sure if my hair is similar to spanish people since I come from a kurdish-iraqi heritage. Would a surgeon in turkey be a better alternative for me? What do you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted May 27, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Swedishdude said: Glad to hear that, although after browsing around this forum a bit I realised it is best to go to surgeons who do your specific hairtype frequently, I'm not sure if my hair is similar to spanish people since I come from a kurdish-iraqi heritage. Would a surgeon in turkey be a better alternative for me? What do you think Elite Drs have excellent results with all hair types. Afro hair though does need a specialist, such as Bisanga or Diep for example. Please do not consider Turkey over the Spanish/Portuguese/Belgium Drs you have available for repairs. As I always mention you do have options in Turkey that are fine, but for repairs? Not so much. And you really do want to be choosing the best for your next procedure. Edited May 27, 2021 by JohnAC71 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Swedishdude Posted May 27, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: Elite Drs have excellent results with all hair types. Afro hair though does need a specialist, such as Bisanga or Diep for example. Please do not consider Turkey over the Spanish/Portuguese/Belgium Drs you have available for repairs. As I always mention you do have options in Turkey that are fine, but for repairs? Not so much. And you really do want to be choosing the best for your next procedure. Thank you for your input. I messaged Dr cuoto as well but they have closed all consultations until 2022 as they have too many waiting in line lol. I will put the fate of my scalp in Dr. De Freitas hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted May 27, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Yes Dr Couto already had probably the longest waiting list anywhere worldwide. Be interesting what De Freitas will say for your case, not sure how many multi grafts you have in your hairline, they will need to either place singles in front or removal/redistribution. Edited May 27, 2021 by JohnAC71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HappyMan2021 Posted May 27, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) such a horrible feeling to just get out of surgery and realize right away you will need another one. I've been there. I think by the 6 month mark you can start visiting docs and get the wheels spinning on a 2nd repair job. Even tho there are clear and obvious density issues, I don't think any doc - even a sh*t one- can provide a clear assessment and/or a repair evaluation so soon after this 1st surgery. In the meantime just grow your native hair out as long as possible to cover the grafts. I would say use concealer too, but I'm not sure if that can have a negative affect on graft growth. As others have said, its unfortunately really common to have a bad 1st HT and then need a repair. Even "decent" HT's may need a secondary touchup. Edited May 27, 2021 by SadMan2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted May 28, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 28, 2021 11 hours ago, JohnAC71 said: Pretty much all of us make a not so good first choice in our 1st Ht. Sad but true! Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted May 28, 2021 Valued Contributor Share Posted May 28, 2021 @Swedishdudeif it’s any consolation I had two butchered hair transplants from the age of 18!! I then went on to have more than half a dozen operations with plastic surgeons up until 24/25 so I know how you feel. You will get past this. All the best. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member _Hairman_ Posted May 28, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted May 28, 2021 very bad job, you always place single grafts in your hairline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member _Hairman_ Posted May 28, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted May 28, 2021 Btw where did you do it, nice to know for the rest of the members in here to avoid the clinic. I wish you good luck for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Navthedon Posted May 28, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted May 28, 2021 Name and shame this reckless surgeon so no one else goes near him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kramer79 Posted May 28, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted May 28, 2021 “1500 grafts.” - Hair TP clinic (Gothenburg Sweden) It's from his original thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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