Regular Member Scoobs Posted January 9, 2017 Regular Member Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hi everybody, Can I please have some opinions and advice for my next HT. Having already had 1 transplantation and coming up to my 2nd appointment in February, I am happy with the hairline that was constructed by the doctor in the first transplantation but am now wanting more irregularity to be placed in the hairline as it seems a little too "uniform". This is despite the use of the saw tooth effect (forgotten what the technical name for it is) to create irregularity. From the photos provided, I think that my hairline has a nice micro irregularity throughout it and the doctor has done a really good job, but I suspect that it needs more macro-irregularity to closer mimic a natural hairline. Do people agree with this opinion ? Cheers, Scoobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aWidowsPeek Posted January 9, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 9, 2017 It looks great to me! Some guys have this hairline naturally. I don't think it looks suspicious at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted January 9, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 9, 2017 I agree with OP it looks a little bit "too straight" for a caucasian hairline, but overall it looks pretty darn good to me. Some added density behind the hairline, and also some temple points would add the finishing touch. go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted January 9, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) It needs the central section dropping slightly to create a subtle widows peak. That would make the world of difference. Maybe only 200 grafts. Edited January 9, 2017 by 1978matt 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mikeyhwk Posted January 9, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 9, 2017 What hsrp and Matt said, it's a little too straight across. It doesn't look bad by any means or one that stands out as an obvious transplant, nothing that drastic. Just for aesthetic effect it could be taken down in the middle a touch to add a more natural look. Your hairline makes me think John Corbett the actor, he was in my big fat greek wedding, and he's got it dipping just a bit in the center and I think that's what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dolph1969 Posted January 9, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 9, 2017 I think maybe a slight recession would have helped, but it doesnt look pluggy or unnatural. As has been said, people have hairlines like this. It's a good result imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ernie Posted January 9, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 9, 2017 You certainly got a dense result. Maybe a bit too sharp of a hairline for a Caucasian? But up close it looks awesome 3185 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 2/17/16 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182611-fut-3185-dr-rahal-day-after-pics.html 1204 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 3/27/17 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/186586-round-2-rahal-1204-fut-frontal-third-same-area.html ---> total of 4389 grafts to my frontal third via FUT ---> 1mg finasteride daily since 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Rmartin Posted January 10, 2017 Regular Member Share Posted January 10, 2017 Good Hair constructed by the Doctor. I think, your frontal should be covered with around 1000 grafts. Currently, it looks like a wide forhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MAGNUMpi Posted January 10, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 10, 2017 I do see how you might think it looks a little too perfect (which is a red-flag for the human eye). Might be worth a small session to make it look a bit more natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scoobs Posted January 13, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 13, 2017 Hi again. Thanks for all the responses, it is much appreciated. My upcoming transplant in February was originally designed to add density to the midscalp and forelock area as it is a little thin in volume. Consultation with my original doctor has determined that I should only expect 1500-200 grafts this time as opposed to the 2100-2200 I received for the initial transplant. My breakdown of 1 hair, 2 hair and 3 hair grafts was 32.9% (1 hair), 65.1% (2 hair) and 6.6% (3 hair) for the original tranplant. Would it be consistent to expect this same ratio in the upcoming transplant ? The reason I ask is that for the doctor to be able to amend the hairline I would assume that they would need to be recreating it exclusively with "1 hair grafts". As for the work to improve the density of the midscalp and forelock area, I imagine that it is not necessary to worry about the type of graft. I hope this presumption is correct. So, if I take the 32.9% figure from the previous transplant (assuming that this is a reasonably reliable indicator for the future) and the modest prediction of 1500 grafts anticipated for the upcoming operation, I come to the figure of 493 "1 hair grafts" being what I should reasonably expect. So if 493 "1 hair grafts" is the kind of ballpark that I have to work with to use for any redesign of the hairline, where should I plan to allocate them ? Firstly, I completely agree with those who've replied that the central area needs some greater body and should drop down (to what extent I am still unsure). This was the first thing that I thought of myself and is the main priority for the redesign. I also agree with the point about the temple points needing something although I am intrigued what it is that people had in mind ? Personally, the temple point looks a little too "neat" for my liking and slightly shallow. If I was in my 20's or even early 30's, I dont think I would have as much problem with the symmetry of the hairline. But being close to 40 I am realistic about how age affects expectations and the fact that it is not necessarily a common caucasian style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scoobs Posted January 13, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 13, 2017 I have constructed something closer to what I am imagining my hairline should end up like. Thanks to 1978matt for the original design ! I have come to this design simply by looking at many different hairlines from Google Images, and I wouldnt be unhappy to get something similar to John Hamms hairline as hes an older guy with a fairly intact head of hair. Has anybody ever given the operating surgeon a few pictures of a famous persons hairline as a guide for what they are attempting to achieve ? Or would I need to give a technical description of the areas I require alteration ? Cheers, Scoobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scoobs Posted January 13, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 13, 2017 I agree with OP it looks a little bit "too straight" for a caucasian hairline, but overall it looks pretty darn good to me. Some added density behind the hairline, and also some temple points would add the finishing touch. Hi hsrp10, What kind of modification to the temple points were you thinking of ? To me, it appears to be a little too deep and could do with being filled in slightly. The whole area is very clean and well constructed but could do with more hair as it appears to still have a minor recession. Thanks for the reply, Scoobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scoobs Posted January 13, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 13, 2017 As mentiond by Mikeyhwk, this is a picture of John Corbett. This is also very close to what I would like as it looks nice and irregular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted January 18, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 18, 2017 Hi hsrp10, What kind of modification to the temple points were you thinking of ? To me, it appears to be a little too deep and could do with being filled in slightly. The whole area is very clean and well constructed but could do with more hair as it appears to still have a minor recession. Thanks for the reply, Scoobs. Hey man, I think you could benefit from having a procedure to restore a triangular shaped temple point design. The hairline is almost perfect but when I look at your pics your temples are receded back quite a bit and are very straight. Here is an example: Restoring "Temple Triangles" with Hair Transplant Surgery? | Hair Loss Q & A Temple points don't require so many grafts, but only choose an elite surgeon to do the procedure because this is a very difficult area to get right and not all surgeons do temple points well! go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scoobs Posted January 19, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hey man,I think you could benefit from having a procedure to restore a triangular shaped temple point design. The hairline is almost perfect but when I look at your pics your temples are receded back quite a bit and are very straight. Here is an example: Restoring "Temple Triangles" with Hair Transplant Surgery? | Hair Loss Q & A Temple points don't require so many grafts, but only choose an elite surgeon to do the procedure because this is a very difficult area to get right and not all surgeons do temple points well! Hi again, thanks for the reply. Do you have any idea of the graft count that would be involved for temple points ? Cheers, Scoobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted January 19, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 19, 2017 Depends on how aggressive you want to restore them but max of 400-500 grafts I think would be enough (200-250 on each side). go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrGio-WHTCClinic Posted January 19, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hi everybody, Can I please have some opinions and advice for my next HT. Having already had 1 transplantation and coming up to my 2nd appointment in February, I am happy with the hairline that was constructed by the doctor in the first transplantation but am now wanting more irregularity to be placed in the hairline as it seems a little too "uniform". This is despite the use of the saw tooth effect (forgotten what the technical name for it is) to create irregularity. From the photos provided, I think that my hairline has a nice micro irregularity throughout it and the doctor has done a really good job, but I suspect that it needs more macro-irregularity to closer mimic a natural hairline. Do people agree with this opinion ? Cheers, Scoobs. The temple peaks would add more balance to the front too. My opinions are my own. I am one representative of MyWHTC Clinic's European branch. Consultation Dates & Cities for Dr. Patrick Mwamba London, United Kingdom - Available (Sat.) Zurich, Switzerland - Available (Saturday) Bologna, Italy - Available (Saturday) Brussles, Belgium - Available (Sun.-Sat.) *No Fee* Dr. Patrick Mwamba is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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