Arnold, Stallone, Van Damme

[Spanker]

Looking at the hair on these guys is interesting. Obviously, these guys are getting up there and I doubt ever used fin, but what's interesting is that they had good hair so late in life, not that they ar bald now, but Stallone has something going on and Arnold and Stallone's Van Dame's hair has taken a late hit. So my question and thoughts would be that steroids could age your follicles beyond your years, even if you aren't especially prone to MPB. All 3 had great hair into their 30s and 40s so I would think the had very small genetic susceptibility to MPB. Outside of MPB we now know collegen is needed to produce the hair follicle so it could just be age relatred, but I do wonder if steroids played any part.

[Ernie]

I thought Stallone was wearing a hair system when he won the Oscar a few months back

[Spanker]

I thought Stallone was wearing a hair system when he won the Oscar a few months back

 

He may be. I have heard transplant too. Could be a combo. Who knows.

[Mickey85]

Stallone is definitely the most interesting of the trio. Van Damme and Arnie hit the concealers pretty hard in movies but they are noticeably balding from the front. Stallone has had multiple hairlines over the last 20 years. It got really noticeable around The Specialist/Judge Dredd era where he suddenly started brushing his hair back revealing a little boy's hairline which was never there prior...

[ontop]

What about Charlie sheen is that a hair system?

[Dr Blake Bloxham]

Stallone definitely wears pieces. What's funny is that I bet he still has a solid hairline. But the older he gets, the more defined and immature his hairline becomes. It looks pretty intense in the last few Expendable movies.

 

 

I think Arnold is a good example of later stage MPB or later stage DPA. He's really thinned out from his time as Governor to now. Maybe it could be from changes in his workout "supplements?" Who knows. But my guess is that it's just a later stage MPB or maybe an early sort of "senile alopecia" -- which is basically just the idea that everyone thins to some extent as they get older.

 

My thoughts on steroids are that they may "unmask" or "kick start" MPB the same way stress or diet theoretically can, but they aren't going to "cause" hair loss in and of themselves and any "lost" follicle was genetically programmed to go comatose regardless. It may have happened a few years sooner because of the steroids, but it was pre-determined to happen before you were ever born.

[Rawkerboi]

What about Charlie sheen is that a hair system?

 

I personally feel Charlie sheen is bless with good hair genes, his dad Martin has good hair so I highly doubt he wears any system.

Although his temples are receded but still he has a good hair

[mlc2010]

Arnold took the steroid " dianabol " when he was younger, which is basically very bad for hair. If he was genetically programmed to go bald, it would of sped it up, however, he almost has very thick hair, all in the 80s

 

In van dammes documentary a few years ago, you can tell his hairline has risen dramatically

[ontop]

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just done a little google search.

[ontop]

Charlie dont look like he has a full head of hair here.

[Mickey85]

Stallone definitely wears pieces. What's funny is that I bet he still has a solid hairline. But the older he gets, the more defined and immature his hairline becomes. It looks pretty intense in the last few Expendable movies.

 

 

I think Arnold is a good example of later stage MPB or later stage DPA. He's really thinned out from his time as Governor to now. Maybe it could be from changes in his workout "supplements?" Who knows. But my guess is that it's just a later stage MPB or maybe an early sort of "senile alopecia" -- which is basically just the idea that everyone thins to some extent as they get older.

 

My thoughts on steroids are that they may "unmask" or "kick start" MPB the same way stress or diet theoretically can, but they aren't going to "cause" hair loss in and of themselves and any "lost" follicle was genetically programmed to go comatose regardless. It may have happened a few years sooner because of the steroids, but it was pre-determined to happen before you were ever born.

 

What is the maximum norwood rating you could see Stallone at? I don't think he is a secret norwood 5-7 but I could see him being a norwood 3 or 4.

[Dr Blake Bloxham]

Hey Mick,

 

Totally agree. I don't think he's anywhere in the 5-7 range, but I bet he's a 3.5 or so without any sort of frontal system. But it would probably look fuller and lower than that with that dark, curly, Italian hair!

[Spanker]

He has to be one of the worst system wearers in the business! Shocking system.

Him and John Travolta could really do with some help!

 

Only MY opinion

 

I agree. I do not know how you can be worth a couple hundred million and don't have as good of a system as the guys do on the forums?

[Shampoo]

isn't Sly's wig glue seen in this pic?

 

[ontop]

I bet Stallone has great donor & good hair chararistics to have a great HT.

he could lay low for a while, then in the meantime wear his hair piece until it grows in.

I don't get these celebrities sometimes.

[mahhong]

I've often wondered about people like Schwarzenegger. Didn't seem to be balding at all in his 20s, 30s, 40s, maybe even 50s, though he must have been pretty high on the T/DHT. I guess it's just not as simple as that, and he still has a decent head of hair for someone his age.

 

Roger Moore was always an interesting one too. I think it's fairly clear he was wearing concealer or maybe even some kind of system towards the tail end of the Bond era but I'm fairly sure he had a great head of hair right until well into his 40s and maybe even 50s. He's still not bald today but he has pretty diffuse loss in a sort of NW5/6 pattern.

 

It's hard to read too much into celebrity hair though as between having a lot of money and copious access to stylists/experts it's difficult to tell if someone wasn't wearing systems or having all manner of concealers etc. added to their hair, so it's not very easy to gauge their level of loss or when it started. I've seen actors wearing wigs on top of systems for some films - Sylvester Stallone for 'Grudge Match' being one such occasion.

 

It is an curious one, though, how MPB expresses itself from person to person. It seems it's not as simple a case as the level of DHT = the level of hairloss. Maybe there are more complicated factors that determine how and when hairloss expresses itself, even if DHT is one of the main underlying culprits?

[RockstarHair]

Hey, long time lurker/reader here.

 

I had to register just to take part in this conversation. I'm a big fan of these guys and I have been actually observing the hair situation of Stallone, Arnold etc. for years. Not to say I'm obsessed or anything LOL.

 

Stallone might have used pieces in the past, but he had a hair transplant back in the late 90's/early 00's and likely an operation or two after that.

 

His hairline is considerably lower than it ever was in the past, but in pictures you can see that he is continuing to lose his hair in the back, and without concealers or flattering camera angles you can clearly see a big balding spot in the back.

 

That picture posted above actually shows a brow lift scar. That was taken back when it was a fresh operation and the scar hadn't faded yet.

 

It can make it look like a hairpiece, but that's actually a transplanted hairline and a scar.

 

Here's a bunch of papparazzi pictures of him in the ocean and you can see behind his hairline he's diffuse thinning all over, but he grows the hair longer to conceal it. Still, he has great hair for a 70 year old.

 

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Now Arnold I was also suspicious of, because he had amazing hair up until 5-7 years ago, and during his big scandal it seemed like his hair started going rapidly, and then just a year or two ago he had a pretty decent hairline back again, so I thought transplant.

 

However he recently buzzed the back and the sides of his hair really short and you can't see any scarring at all, FUT or FUE.

 

So I think with him the stress could have made his MPB speed up, and maybe he regained some hair when the worst was over possibly due to meds.

 

Or it's possible that he had a conservative FUE operation done.

[Windjammer]

Nice thread, Spanker! These are three of my all-time favorite action legends. You can bet I've paid close attention to their hair across their entire filmography

 

Honestly, I never thought Stallone wore a system. He had great hair across all the Rocky's and beyond. The movie for me that comes to mind when you notice his hairline recede back some was Judge Dredd:

 

Obviously still great hair, just noting the high/recessive type nature of the hairline that really wasn't evident 10 years ago.

I then remember seeing Rambo 4 in 2008 and was quite taken aback by his lowered, straight across hairline:

 

At the time, I just thought he had a very successful frontal restoration done, which is not hard to believe since I don't see stallone losing much more beyond his frontal third ever.

 

Comments on Arnold and Van Damme to come...:cool:

[Spanker]

Nice thread, Spanker! These are three of my all-time favorite action legends. You can bet I've paid close attention to their hair across their entire filmography

 

Honestly, I never thought Stallone wore a system. He had great hair across all the Rocky's and beyond. The movie for me that comes to mind when you notice his hairline recede back some was Judge Dredd:

 

Obviously still great hair, just noting the high/recessive type nature of the hairline that really wasn't evident 10 years ago.

I then remember seeing Rambo 4 in 2008 and was quite taken aback by his lowered, straight across hairline:

 

At the time, I just thought he had a very successful frontal restoration done, which is not hard to believe since I don't see stallone losing much more beyond his frontal third ever.

 

Comments on Arnold and Van Damme to come...:cool:

 

His hair looks pretty good here. I really do not know. Now I am inclined to think that it is not a system. But that tells us one thing, that systems are so good today, that if someone wearing a good one, its difficult to tell from a transplant. It could be on the above pics it looks strange because you can see his brow lift scar and he may have either concealer or it is just a dye job....hard to tell.

[Windjammer]

Van Damme had great hair all the way into almost his late 40's I'd say. Here's a picture of him at 36 with some very lucious locks :

 

And here's VD at the Expendables 2 premier in 2012 at age 52:

 

He's thinned out a good deal in frontal third. He's still seems strong in the crown luckily. I don't think VD has ever had any hair restoration work performed; though I do know he is quite self-conscious about it as he is most commonly seen wearing a ball cap these days.

 

Like Spanker says, the late in life hair loss is rather alarming, considering where all these guys were in their late 30's and early 40's.

[ontop]

I think VD would be in a good position to strengthen up his hairline at his age.

[Wwiizzkkiidd24]

anyone seen vd's advert for cools light? blatantly wearing a system.

[AB2000]

Another celebrity whose hairline has been on TV for decades is the wrestler Ric Flair. For many years in his career he wore a 70's style long 'do, then modernized his look in the early '90's when he cut it short for a while. The first two attachments are from '93 and '95 when he would have been 44 and 46 years old respectively.

 

Fast forward 10-15 years and suddenly he has a huge bald spot on his crown. There's still a hairline up front, to give the appearance that there's more behind it, but he's essentially as bald on the back as his contemporary Hulk Hogan, who was famously bald and bandanna-wearing. More recently it looks like Ric is losing hair up front too.

 

Kind of disappointing to know that you can be middle aged with a full head of hair but that you can go bald in a short amount of time.

[ontop]

Charlie wears a partial hair piece for sure & I wouldn't be surprised so does his dad.