20 Months PO Second Surgery Still No Growth

[simple14]

Hi Guys,

 

Sorry for the long story and i appreciate if you read it with patience then you will know better about my HT.

 

I think i am one of the unluckiest person that both FUT procedures did not work. My first HT was from Dr Imran Jhelum Pakistan not very well known but i got some good references locally so decided to go with him in 2011 unfortunately no pictures for the first HT.

 

He charged about 500 pounds for about 1500 grafts on the operation day they shaved my head and gave me local anesthesia but for some reason i got some breathing and my heart beat gone up very strange i know but yes with local i got some reaction.

 

Anyways after waiting for sometimes and with help of some beta blockers finally managed to get my operation done unfortunately they only covered frontal hair line area, the donor area scar was minimal and i am sure he put only about 500+ grafts, as expected result was not good,

 

After two years decided to go for another HT found another HT in Islamabad Pakistan call Dubai Cosmetic Surgery Pakistan performed by Dr Naveed Azhar in January 2014, they had proper website at the time of my HT but past few months their website vanished.

 

I told the story and told them about my condition with local anesthesia they assured that they will look after and put 4000 grafts with FUT+FUE combination for about 1200 pounds.

 

On operation day same thing happened with local anesthesia heart beat going up and breathing problem but still they managed to cut a big strip from my donor scar (was quite big strip actually)

 

After taking the strip the the staff took a long time to come back to me, i asked why they taking long because i am concern about graft' life and been told that not to worry as they in saline water and they still putting them into pieces.

 

The procedure took whole day then they told me that i have to stay for the night and they will start FUE next day.

 

Next day the FUE procedure started about 10 am and then they finished about 3pm mostly they put grafts in crown area my head was full of saline water as can be seen in pictures

 

I left the ht clinic with some instruction for care and medicine plus baby shampoo after 10 days doctor saw me for final check up and told me that all grafts are intact and all look good and i am ok to go back home in UK

 

I have looked after well had finasteride for about 9 months and i am still using minoxidil 5%

 

Unfortunately i cant see any difference compare to before the second OP on top of that it even nearly two years i have very itchy donor area the scar is raised and bumpy there are some ingrown hair where FUE performed

 

I have been to dermatologist here in UK got some scar flattened injection little difference but still itchy and bumpy scar i am using dermatix and cant see any difference with this either, i have been told by dermatologist that i have keloid scar and nothing can be done as its in genetics.

 

I dont know what other step shall i take i need scar revision anyway despite i know i have keloid scar and shall i go for another HT.

 

PS I shaved my head with trimmer with no clipper on after 12 months second PO surgery, did this effect on my transplanted grafts not to grow?

 

Before Second Surgery December 2013

 

 

 

 

During Second Surgery January 2014

 

 

 

 

 

 

12 Months PO December 2014

 

 

 

 

20 Months PO September 2015

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 15, 2015 by simple14

[ZeoRanger]

Sorry to hear about your unsuccessful procedures. As far as I know saline is a very outdated storage solution that has the potential to harm grafts. Modern clinics use an ATP solution.

 

Did your scalp get infected post-op?

 

Your dermatologist should look into scalp conditions and rule out lichen planopilaris. That's on of the silent mystery diseases that prevent growth.

 

If it's all good, ask one of the recommended doctors here for repair. You still have some donor for a repair procedure.

[Spanker]

I do see growth. What percent I have no idea.

 

One of your problems is that your hair transplant is way way too aggressive. Your hairline was placed at least an in too low and you covered way too much area.

 

Also, 1200 pounds for 4000 grafts is a HUGE red flag that this was not a top notch clinic. Sorry man.

[simple14]

Sorry to hear about your unsuccessful procedures. As far as I know saline is a very outdated storage solution that has the potential to harm grafts. Modern clinics use an ATP solution.

 

Did your scalp get infected post-op?

 

Your dermatologist should look into scalp conditions and rule out lichen planopilaris. That's on of the silent mystery diseases that prevent growth.

 

If it's all good, ask one of the recommended doctors here for repair. You still have some donor for a repair procedure.

 

My recipient area was absolutely fine during op and till now no infection at all my donor start getting inflammation after two three months post op and bad itchiness also got some acne type right in the middle under the scar line they itch very badly. I contacted the surgeon who performed the HT advised me to use dermatix and i been using it more than six month now no effect.

 

Dermatologist here in UK confirm they are ingrown here and nothing can be done about them however i had to sessions with him and he injected scar flattened twice in donor scar strip and i am waiting for the third dose

 

I do see growth. What percent I have no idea.

 

One of your problems is that your hair transplant is way way too aggressive. Your hairline was placed at least an in too low and you covered way too much area.

 

Also, 1200 pounds for 4000 grafts is a HUGE red flag that this was not a top notch clinic. Sorry man.

 

If look at my first pic and compare it has very slight difference, do u think using hair trimmer without clipper effect on overall result.

 

Yes i was surprised 4000 grafts for 1200 pounds although they took very wide and large strip similar to the office trouser belt size in width and put it in saline water.

[Rawkerboi]

Shaving with trimmer with no clippers after 12 months of your surgery won't affect your grafts. Grafts are perfectly secured after 15 to 20 days post surgery.

I think now it's safe to say that it's a Failed HT, you can consult some good top HT doctors and discuss further plans.

[simple14]

Sorry to hear about your unsuccessful procedures. As far as I know saline is a very outdated storage solution that has the potential to harm grafts. Modern clinics use an ATP solution.

 

Did your scalp get infected post-op?

 

Your dermatologist should look into scalp conditions and rule out lichen planopilaris. That's on of the silent mystery diseases that prevent growth.

 

If it's all good, ask one of the recommended doctors here for repair. You still have some donor for a repair procedure.

 

I do see growth. What percent I have no idea.

 

One of your problems is that your hair transplant is way way too aggressive. Your hairline was placed at least an in too low and you covered way too much area.

 

Also, 1200 pounds for 4000 grafts is a HUGE red flag that this was not a top notch clinic. Sorry man.

 

Shaving with trimmer with no clippers after 12 months of your surgery won't affect your grafts. Grafts are perfectly secured after 15 to 20 days post surgery.

I think now it's safe to say that it's a Failed HT, you can consult some good top HT doctors and discuss further plans.

 

I am thinking for scar revision, as keloid scar sufferer do u think will it work? also i am in touch with GP for another dermatologist appointed as my donor scar still inflamed and bumpy and itchy. Do you think in this condition i should go for another HT. If so i have looked at Mcan Travel Hair Transplant in Turkey and they have very good packages they have Dr. G?khan who has some good reviews.

 

One thing to mention that some days i feel less inflammation and itchiness and some days inflammation increased and feel more itchiness and cant sleep straight.

[Melvin- Admin]

You have my deepest sympathies, I think at this point you should go FUE with a good top notch surgeon, like Dr. Erdogan, or Dr. Lorenzo, or Dr. Doganay, two failed FUT surgeries I would not advise getting a third because your scar will have a high probability of stretching. I would suggest doing body hair in to the scar as well. I know Dr. Doganay and Dr. Bisanga both do body hair I suggest consulting with them. The good thing is that I think you can still get a decent result, stay optimistic and good luck.

[simple14]

You have my deepest sympathies, I think at this point you should go FUE with a good top notch surgeon, like Dr. Erdogan, or Dr. Lorenzo, or Dr. Doganay, two failed FUT surgeries I would not advise getting a third because your scar will have a high probability of stretching. I would suggest doing body hair in to the scar as well. I know Dr. Doganay and Dr. Bisanga both do body hair I suggest consulting with them. The good thing is that I think you can still get a decent result, stay optimistic and good luck.

 

Thanks for the advice HTsoon, at the moment my donor scar is infected and need treatment i don't have recent pictures of scar but i have one month PO and four months PO donor area pictures and i think its already stretched, please have a look at below pictures may be i am wrong.

 

Also my existing hair suffered massive shock loss as well.

 

One Month PO Feb 2014

 

 

Four Months PO May 2014

 

[Melvin- Admin]

It's hard to tell to be honest, it looks like the hairs around the scar were lost due to shock, but it is very plausible that your scar did in fact stretch, do you have a lot of body hair? At this point I don't think many grafts can be taken from the donor area as it doesn't look dense enough, maybe 500 grafts max. You should consult with Dr. Bhatti, he's very affordable his office is in India and he does body hair, I think at this point your option is to go FUE body hair, hopefully you can get maximum amount of grafts, maybe 6,000. Dr. Umar is a body hair specialist he has an extensive portfolio of repair patients like yourself, he is very expensive, but I think in your case the results is what matters.

[simple14]

I do not have a lot body hair , but most of the hair near the donor scar come back and i am sure i have good density now and another FUE can be done easily.

 

Thanks for the suggestion for the doctors, i personally planning to go to Turkey so doctors in Turkey are better option for me

[CaliHairGuy]

I hope you get this resolved to your satisfaction, but this is a big reason people need to look at results, not words and price.

 

You don't want to mess around with surgeries like this. If price is a major concern, then Turkey and Thailand seem to be the best options.