Discoid Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) Hello fellas , first of all excuse me guys for my poor English. From long time I wanted to share my HT that it done in 2011 with Dr Koray in Istanbul.my hair loss started when I was 19 then 8 years later my baldness reached to class 6 so I decided to have HT,I did a lot of research in the internet to choice which clinic are best.when I saw the results of Dr Koray I was so impressed and I said this my saver , I sent my pics to Koray and said that I need 3200 grafts to rebuild my hairline and mid scalp and 6 month later he can transplant the crown area.i arrived to istanbult and I had face to face consultation and I did the HT on 2 days he transplanted 1900 grafts to rebuild the hairline and the rest on the mid scalp. Finally after 12 months I didn't like the result and I contacted Dr.Koray to know his opinion , he said that my HT are successful but because your expectation too high So that why you don't like it. My conclusion Dr.Kory is a very nice person , the clinic clean ( they have a good a infection control ) and the team they were friendly and polite Edited March 14, 2014 by Discoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discoid Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 The right side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discoid Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Please correct the title it was done in 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JimmyNeutron Posted March 14, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 14, 2014 1900 grafts to rebuild a hairline on a NW6 like you say you were, is not enough in my opinion. And 3200 grafts on the entire head of a NW6 is just not enough. You would see an improvement but not a dramatic change where you go from NW6 to Pauly D from Jersey Shore. I am NW3.5 or 4(not sure, it's getting better every week because of minoxidil + dutasteride) and I was quoted 3500 grafts, I have coarse hair like you(?). I feel like 3500 won't be enough for my specific goals, so I don't know how 3200 would be enough for a NW6. NW6, you are looking at 5000-6000 in my opinion, to see a significant change that would make you happy. I read something here that you should get 1000 grafts for every NW stage that you are? Not sure how accurate that is, but it does make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted March 14, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 14, 2014 Please correct the title it was done in 2011 Your title has been corrected. David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member salinger7 Posted March 17, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 17, 2014 Have you thought about growing your hair out? The results might look much better. Your hairline is nicely shaped, and although your a Norwood 6, the number of grafts you had placed in the frontal and mid area should show significant improvement. Also, do you take propecia? I think if you grow your hair out you might see more of a cosmetic improvement. Dr Erdogan is highly skilled and I hope you the best outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member home1212 Posted March 17, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2014 i think if you put a side by side comparison of your before and after photos, you'd also see and appreciate the cosmetic improvement. I too like the creation of the hairline and filling in midscalp. You elect to wear your hair short so its not as dramatic a result, but definitely nice coverage. I would be extremely happy if I had your result! But best of luck with whatever you want to achieve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted March 17, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2014 Need proper before photos but looking at the finished result, I don't think I would be too pleased with it either.... Some areas are almost totally barren of yield... The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted March 17, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2014 I would like to get some further information on this procedure. Can you share some better pics showing pre-op, immediately post-op and final resutls? While I agree that I would not find this result satisfying, I also agree with what's been said that this was quite a small procedure for this degree of hair loss and, even with 100% yield, would probably not have delivered an aesthetically pleasing result. What was your surgical plan? Did you and Dr. Koray discuss the trade off between area coverage and density? To me it appears that too much area was covered with this small number of grafts with a sacrifice in density. If you take a look at guys who have had exceptional results with high Norwood levels, they're typically gonna be above 5,000 grafts. Our managing publisher Bill has had well over 9,000 grafts. Did you understand going into the surgery that you'd likely need more work to meet your goals? David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discoid Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Sorry guys for late reply When my hair grow it looks wired and kinky so that's why I keep it short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discoid Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I forgot the CD of pics in my home country , I found only one pic before the HT Edited March 17, 2014 by Discoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discoid Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 I would like to get some further information on this procedure. Can you share some better pics showing pre-op, immediately post-op and final resutls? While I agree that I would not find this result satisfying, I also agree with what's been said that this was quite a small procedure for this degree of hair loss and, even with 100% yield, would probably not have delivered an aesthetically pleasing result. What was your surgical plan? Did you and Dr. Koray discuss the trade off between area coverage and density? To me it appears that too much area was covered with this small number of grafts with a sacrifice in density. If you take a look at guys who have had exceptional results with high Norwood levels, they're typically gonna be above 5,000 grafts. Our managing publisher Bill has had well over 9,000 grafts. Did you understand going into the surgery that you'd likely need more work to meet your goals? Hey David , Dr.Koary was planing to do HT in 2 steps the 1st surgery to design the hairline and fill mid scalp and six months later to do the crown area . He decided the no. of grafts and I've been told that is a sufficient number of grafts for the hairline and mid scalp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discoid Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Need proper before photos but looking at the finished result, I don't think I would be too pleased with it either.... Some areas are almost totally barren of yield... Honestly the HT is the worst decision I ever made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted March 17, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2014 Hi, If it was me I would be going for a 2nd Ht to give it extra density. Whats there is good so a 2nd Ht would hopefully give a nice result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted March 17, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2014 Honestly the HT is the worst decision I ever made You really feel that way?? The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vettel Posted March 17, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 17, 2014 How much did the hair transplant cost you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted March 17, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2014 You know, I dont' think it looks bad, it's a definite improvement over PreOp. You have a hairline now, and if you buzz it, it will look good on your darker skin. Did you take finasteride? 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member splitting hairs Posted March 18, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 18, 2014 To be honest it looks like you have lost a lot of native hair since your before pic. 1900 grafts has given you some coverage and a frame to your face but isn't enough so far. You need to complete the job now and go for a second procedure. _________________________________________________ Propecia since July 2008 2201 Grafts with Dr Lorenzo on 19.10.22 - See my write up here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Shadow of the EMpire State Posted March 19, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2014 I've said this over and over: the current state of hair transplantation is not sufficiently advanced to produce cosmetically acceptable results on the vast majority of men who are beyond NW 4. If you're beyond NW 4, it's highly unlikely that you will realize a cosmetically acceptable result unless you have extraordinary hair characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted March 19, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) discoid, If i were you I would try buzzing down with a #1 or 2 guard. It will blend the sides and top a bit better. Then I would add more grafts (if it's financially feasible) and/or have some Scalp Micropigmentation done. While I agree this result isn't as great as it should have been, it wasn't a total disaster. It's tough to tell from your pictures but it appears as if you would have enough grafts in the bank to achieve the result you were looking for. I also would concentrate on using more grafts on the frontal/mid area rather than hitting the crown. Edited March 19, 2014 by hairthere I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Since21 Posted March 19, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2014 I've said this over and over: the current state of hair transplantation is not sufficiently advanced to produce cosmetically acceptable results on the vast majority of men who are beyond NW 4. If you're beyond NW 4, it's highly unlikely that you will realize a cosmetically acceptable result unless you have extraordinary hair characteristics. This has nothing to do with 'the current state of hair transplantation.' Obviously 3200 grafts distributed over the entire head of a NW6 is not going to be enough. Another procedure of 2,000-3,000 grafts will produce a nice result. 3,425 FUT grafts with Dr Raymond Konior - Nov 2013 1,600 FUE grafts with Dr Raymond Konior - Dec 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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