4000 FUE grafts with Dr. Maral

[another]

Hello,

Please see 13 months post op pic, 4000 grafts.

I was hoping to get better result with 4000 grafts, unfortunately this seems the final result for me as I haven't noticed any changes in the past 2 months.

 

 

thanks

[fredifredo]

Hello "another"

Looking at your pictures juft before and just after the transplantation (where we can see all the scars/ implanted grafts); and at the final result now, it's difficult to understand... there are clearly a lot of hair that didn't come out and grow llike they should have. Could you meet Dr Maral again ? What is his explanation about this ?

Any specialist analysis ? Dermatologist, surgeon, etc...

I sincerily hope you will find a way to go thru.

Fredi

[another]

Hi Fredi,

Thanks for your reply.

 

I am not sure what happened but this doesn't look good.

I haven't emailed Dr. Maral yet.

 

Thanks Fredi

[britboy]

I think a surgeon is far better targeting a smaller area with 4000 grafts on higher Norwood patients

instead of trying to spread them over the entire surface area as coverage is just too light in my opinion. I have seen some recommended surgeons do it and I question their reasoning for it.

 

Another,

 

Dr Maras should have just tried to hit the frontal to midsection in one surgery and then target another area with a second surgery and possibly reinforce the first surgery if necessary. A transplanted crown alone can eat up a high percentage of a donor supply and look thin.

 

Dr Maras??? or Dr Maral?

[nice]

looks like 500 new hairs, what happened?

[chrisdav]

Sorry Dr Maral Britboy - my mistake.

[another]

looks like 500 new hairs, what happened?

 

Hi,

I am not sure what happened, but day by day its getting worse.

 

[fredifredo]

Hi another. Did you finally try to show the result to Dr Maral...? And what did he say about it ? Any hope of a solution from him ?

[KO]

Yep, even if it is 4k grafts spread over a large area, that still does not look like 4k grafts. I hate the "but it's spread over a large area" excuse when a HT disappoints.

[Britanium]

Hi

Any updates for this ?

[1966kph]

I dont think this is a case were 4000 grafts weren't implanted more a case that they did not grow.

I remember a case of Dr Madhu's a few years ago who had very similar results and i've also seen a case similar from Hasson and Wong a few years ago.

It happens sometimes and even to the best of docs and if you have never seen poor or mediocre results from recommended docs you have not researched enough.

another--i hope your situation improves and it turns out your a unusually late grower but i think you have already resigned yourself to the result which you have got.

All have a nice weekend

[JimmyNeutron]

This is sad, sorry you didn't get the results you deserved. 4000 grafts is a LOT of grafts no matter how you slice it. I have seen outstanding results with less grafts on similar hairloss level, and even worse. I am a Dr. Maral patient and I can say things are going as expected for me, I am happy so far, I have a positive experience with him and his staff. Something went wrong here obviously, that is not how 4000 grafts should look like at 13 months IMO.

 

And I agree with the above post, I also saw the H&W results that yielded poorly, we are probably thinking about the same one. It happens with even the best doctors in the world.

[another]

Hi guys,

thanks for your comments and replies.

 

It is 15 months post op now. I can't say that I am happy with the result as week by week hair is shedding more and don't see any regrow. For some reason my hair is facing all different direction so styling is very hard. I was very excited to see the final result with 4000 grafts, but now very disappointed.

 

Everything seemed perfect until 8 months post op but as from 9th month I started shedding, also the hairline is almost empty now. I loved the hair line look at 6 months post op, but it looks very bad now.

 

I am not taking any hair growth boost medication or anything else that might have a side-effect.

I did use Alpecin for couple of months but that made not difference at all.

 

I haven't contacted Dr. Maral.

 

I have decided to go for second HT surgery so I am doing research on ht surgeons in Europe, primary in the UK.

 

thanks guys

 

[fredifredo]

Hi another. Sorry to read that, I feel how disappointed you are. You clearly have a problem there. I don't understand why you don't try to contact Dr Maral.... at least by mail, or better : meet him to have a serious check, and possible explanations.

I also suggest that you meet any hair specialist and dermatologist before you go for another FUE, whenever you go : it could help you to avoid a same hair reaction and result... The problem could come from so many causes (hair quality, blood, vitamins lack, genetics, any body reaction, etc) more than from the hair transplantation surgery in itself. Don't you think ?

 

Be courageous, and good luck. F

[another]

Hi Fredi,

thanks for your reply.

I will definitely go to a dermatologist to check before going for second surgery.

I have emailed Dr. Maral today, will update here once I hear from him. Just asked him to share his opinion about the result.

 

Thanks.

[petersj]

Another can you please help me out with some info. I was confident to go with Dr. Maral for hairtransplant but since I have seen your post I have very strong doubts about that.

 

1- How long did your transplant take? I mean how many hours were they working on you? How many breaks you had?

2- Have you taken any pictures of the extracted grafts? if yes then please attach here

3- How many people working on you? I read somewhere 4 hands but was it also in your case?

4- Have you contacted Dr. Maral? if yes then what did he say?

5- Are you happy with your result?

6- Do you think I should not doubt and go to Dr. Maral for hair transplant?

 

I know these a many questions but please try to help me out to make my mind.

 

thank you so much

Edited July 19, 2014 by petersj

[Dutch]

He's already said he's not happy & who would be.

 

Another- please consider looking outside the UK for surgery. Belgium, Turkey, the US, Canada.

[1978matt]

Too few a grafts over too big an area most probably.

 

The problem with Maral is I don't believe you know what graft breakdown you are going to get before or after.

 

They may have grafted 4000 singles so you get 4000 hairs.

 

Lorenzo would probably do an average of 2-2.5 hairs per graft, so 8,000 to 10,000 hairs.

[another]

Another can you please help me out with some info. I was confident to go with Dr. Maral for hairtransplant but since I have seen your post I have very strong doubts about that.

 

1- How long did your transplant take? I mean how many hours were they working on you? How many breaks you had?

2- Have you taken any pictures of the extracted grafts? if yes then please attach here

3- How many people working on you? I read somewhere 4 hands but was it also in your case?

4- Have you contacted Dr. Maral? if yes then what did he say?

5- Are you happy with your result?

6- Do you think I should not doubt and go to Dr. Maral for hair transplant?

 

I know these a many questions but please try to help me out to make my mind.

 

thank you so much

 

Hello Peter,

yes indeed many questions

 

1. Started at 14:30 and finished at 23:15 as timed. I had a break at 18:30 for 15 minutes.

2. No I haven't taken any pictures of extracted grafts.

3. Extraction 2 hands and planting 4 hands.

4. Yes I did contact Dr. Maral asking his opinion about the result. He says that the result is good.

5. No I am not happy because I was hoping for way better result with 4000 grafts, whatever the reason for this result is.

 

 

Dutch

I am looking for a surgeon in other countries as well, to be honest I don't mind where the surgeon is, as long as the surgeon is well recommended and delivers good results.

 

Before going for second HT I will try to get all checked with a dermatologist.

 

 

1978matt

I think at this stage its hard to know whether they are singles or doubles, it would've been great to have much doubles and better density.

[petersj]

Thank you very much for the information. I see that you didn't answer question number 6 but I already have decided not to go to Dr. Maral. I am in Germany now for vacation and here also seems to be many good surgeons but cannot find any names on this forum.

thank you very much.

[Mickey85]

He's already said he's not happy & who would be.

 

Another- please consider looking outside the UK for surgery. Belgium, Turkey, the US, Canada.

 

Reddy and lorenzo(bothin the uk) are at the forefront of fue. I wouldnt even consider a north american surgeon for fue.

[remy]

any improvements or updates? looks like you have received less than 2000 grafts and not 4000 grafts und there is no way you can argue that with your doctor.

I hope things have improved for you.

[KO]

Each donor area has a potential for 2 strips and 2 good FUE sessions, but only if you start with a strip. If you start with 2 FUE sessions you don't have much left.

In my experience, starting with FUE sacrifices atleast 30% of total graft potential which is just unacceptable for most cases.

.

 

Hello, could you please clarify this? Why would starting with a strip yield more grafts than starting with FUE assuming you were planning on doing both surgeries?

[PupDaddy]

Hello, could you please clarify this? Why would starting with a strip yield more grafts than starting with FUE assuming you were planning on doing both surgeries?

 

I don't want to presume to answer for Dr. Bigem (but I will). I assume he would say that once you diffusely thin your donor area by 30% or more with 2 FUE procedures, the graft numbers obtainable from subsequent strip procedures will be significantly compromised. The strips will have about a third fewer follicular units in them than they would have had before.

 

Vice versa, if you start with 2 strip surgeries on a virgin scalp, you will maximize those strip counts while removing "only" 2 - 3 cm of donor scalp, depending on the width of the strips that were taken. The donor area above and below the scar will be at 100% of its original density. You can then take 30% of that donor via 2 FUE procedures (taking advantage of the much larger donor area harvestable by FUE).

 

Or so I assume.

[MikroFUE]

Hello,

 

I am internet advertiser/marketer of Maral Hair Transplant and Aesthetic Surgery Klinik in Istanbul, Turkey. This is my first post here, sorry if I do any mistake.

 

Hello K0,

 

We think that you made a mistake and confused Dr. Maral and Dr. Bigem. The owner of this thread is Dr. Maral's one of the real patients. Dr. Bigem's ideas and comments appertain to himself and can not be assessed to Dr. Maral's.

 

Dr. Maral has recently become a member of this community and you may find the relevant information about him here:

Hair Restoration Social Network ? Community for and by Hair Loss Patients - DrMaral64's Profile

 

Dr. Bigem seems to be one of the affliated physicians of a health tourism company called L.......a,

If you want to find information about them, you may follow the links here:

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165389-anyone-heard-company-called-longevita-uk-london-6.html

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/176782-longevita-turkey.html

 

To be honest and clear, Dr. Maral shares and joins most of your ideas and comments on the matters that you have recently discussed with Bigem. There is no noteworthy adding to yours which is good enough and consistent with Dr. Maral's.

 

Please kindly correct this misunderstanding ASAP.

 

Murat - on behalf of Dr. Maral and Maral (Hair) Klinik

 

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