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I'm hoping a moderator will remove the verrelent and abusive attacks on me by pup and. Chrisdav

You are another gang member agreeing with absolutely distorted facts. How dare you include me in your trollific Slurs....

Ceaseless spamming and circumvention....I sense more attacks .. now you're starting on me... You are now taking advantage of the situation but please leave me out of it. I have and always writen honestly unlike YOU in particular.... I'm a Real patient and share and wish to continue to share my experienced. My experiences are as valid if not more valid than yours especially having been and still am a client of the klinik in question. I request you retract and appologise to me for your insinuation that I am spamming....I'm no spammer... I now see the twisted and distorted gang have risen their heads above the pulpit. You are rude.

The link appears to has been removed by moderators - I wonder why !!! It is clear there is a campaign against the so called offending klinik, so people just be aware that the klinik in question, the klinik that performed my FUE, is genuine and of the highest calibre and ethics when it comes to FUE and 3-4 times cheaper than any in USA or even Europe for that matter.

FUE is much superior than fut and FUT is almost outdated, plus it leave the awful scaring check me post out. A lot of the above is FUT orientated... hmm I wonder why... USA performs mainly FUT and not FUE, Europe and Turkey performs more FUE. FUE prices in turkey are far far cheaper than FUT in USA, by often as much as 70% cheaper.. there are many great kliniks in Turkey and one or two in europe performing great FUE. I'm sold on FUE after look for 20 + years to resolve the FUT problems I faced... FUE resolved them for me successfully so far...

My Klinik also does a great job with FUE.. I think they are one of the best

FUE for me, beats FUT with superiority and glee

would you allow my friend to post his photos without mentioning the KLINIKS name? in order to begin to get things back on track...

I have to admit the forum saved the day for me...THANK you all 10000000000000000000000 times for the help, I feel great my hair is looking fine err good, I'm happy thankyou all for guiding me to find the Klinik which has transformed my life.. I thank you and God for the support and guidance... but this angst and prejudice against a very sincere and genuine Klinik is unfair. 20_+ years and eventually I discovered the Klinik that gave me hope once again, I feel 20 years younger, proud and confident once again. THANKYOU ALL - A BIG KISS to YOU ALL :eek:

Does this mean that if my friend(s) who may use a surgeon or clinic that if she or he posts from my IP while with me so using the same IP, that they also be banned? "for the good of the community and members who come here looking for help" I came here and found it, and want to pass on the amazing Klinik I found and then introduced my friend who is waiting for results, and many others who found this klinik are now banned from mentioning the kliniks name, but, you say for the good of the community, Blake me darling, it does not add up. forgiveness no matter who is at fault is the better part of valour....you will all feel great if you forgive and allow ----- klinik to become part of this community as you know deep in your heart that the quality of the Kliniks work is as good as any other...if you do this you will be those patients "for the good of the community and members who come here looking for help". Good boy Blake.. reach deep my friend.

Drives members away !! ??? oooh I doubt it ....Nothing makes sense but its fun.. almost...so ban all the members who caused the affray, I've pm'd several to you.. and these were direct attackers of the said Klinik. but alas as mentioned you wont even allow my friend who had a procedure recently to post his views and photos...This is like the Caucasian Chalk Circle, :-)

Then so why ban patients and the ----- klinik from posting?

Is this "Not for nothing, but last I checked, their clinic continues to lure in patients with deceptive representations on the clinic's web site implying, or stating outright that the patient's FUE transplant will be performed by a renowned ht physician"., not just further proof of the campaign against the kilink ? as mentioned this is inflammatory at the least to suggest they 'LURE' and 'Deceptive' patients in'. This is BS. Anyway I might aswell be talking to my dog for what good this will do to have the HTN alters its position on one of the best kliniks in the world... the klinik which carried out my procedures:-)

really.....! even a blind man or woman could see it, I was drawn into this affray by default because I can actually read English.:-)

endless litigation.....so many surgeons are sued in USA for malpractice, of course there are many bad surgeons even in USA too, probably more than elsewhere as everything is about the Buck in USA. Blake with the greatest respect, and willingless to try and understand your position, you do yourselves no favours in this forum as you have shown yourselves to be biased in this matter. I believe you would be better served and better serve patients to reconsider my klinik and patients be allowed to post their experiences with this klinik in a transparent way.

Pup as well, Turkey is not part of the EU. So the costs are absolutely less than Europe or USA, this is why the prices are able to be so low. But it does not mean the quality is any lower, in fact I woudl say in todays world, higher quality, back to the very first original issue and the one million disagreements on this forum about my klinik.., Low price high quality unlike anywhere else in Europe or USA.

You're part of the fly in the ointment - You absolutely refuse to accept the obvious and proven track record of FUE by not only a certain Klinik but Turkish clinics - Again you're last sentence about luring patients in is inflammatory, "Not for nothing, but last I checked, their clinic continues to lure in patients with deceptive representations on the clinic's web site implying, or stating outright that the patient's FUE transplant will be performed by a renowned ht physician"., despicable and wholly untrue, you although you have the advantage of ----- klinik being banned in part by you're posts and inflammatory posts to boot as this most recent post of yours. I was lured in by the new promotional American creation....'slit grafts' technique which was a complete disaster... as I'm sure many people are lured in by other proclamations, but the result from this banned Klinik have been exceptional. A disservice is done to the forum by banning this klinik.

Hi Blake, Let me tell you something about the so called abrasive rep... The whole issue here was I believe difficulty with the English language and the interpretation of that language to English speaking people.. there in laid the rub. No respect was shown for the limited English ability and therefore judgement was made, but it was not made against the attackers English speaking or not. I understand English perfectly, whether or not I made typos is irrelevant,... as I often do..:-) I saw quite clearly that any abrasiveness was due to the limited English language ability in the written form.

we patients should still have the right to have our surgeons, clinics doctors spoken about in our posts along with new patients from those same surgeries. You should re-consider the contribution that ----- Klinik has given to numerous patients including myself and allow them to post, speak plainly and honestly.. You continue to refuse to accept that attackers were against my Klinik.

Garbage, twisted distorted excuse and untrue response..., More threats I see, its plain, its clear... its almost like a prison camp... Of course I for sure know that the whole intention is to eventually have the whole lot of us who have used the unmentionable ----- klinik banned....of course this woudl suit the moderators and paid for subscriber well to get rid of genuine patients who have had great results and support from the unmentionable ----- klinik. I am reticent to post any more updates on my procedures, as this forum has become clearly biased and begins not to deserve the contributions of genuine patients.... Any confusion was caused by at least 8 other members and you know who they are and they are still posting, yet the actual klinik who was attacked has been banned from being mentioned etc.....thats the reality. The attacks were based on attempt at totally discrediting technician driven kliniks or Surgeons who do not perform procedures directly, then pricing. These attackers did the best they could and for some weird reason you sided with these attackers and banned the klinik, and now zealously moderating even signatures to eradicate this very good klinik who has patients at the forefront of their work. Why have you not banned those others who clearly attacked this klinik? If you need to know who they are I will send you a PM, but then I have already done that before and you know clearly who they are yet they still post and are mainly negative toward FUE. I wonder why. I've seen this totalitarian behaviour before in other forums of the past on different themes (not HT), and in Russia, china, North Korea, and USA and now in EU, big bully behaviour and indirect threats which have ultimate consequences of those complaining behind sanctioned unfairly. I'M WAITING FOR MY WARNING OR TO BE BANNED AND NEVER DARKEN THIS FORUMS STEPS AGAIN. "Brit and 66, please understand that we can't have every discussion topic dissolve into a debate about physician versus technician FUE or a discussion of this doctor. Like I said before, this redundancy is one of the reasons why a number of members asked us to step in and do something".... and you did nothing about the transparent attackers of the klinik in question! BTW. This is civilized and democratic discussion, its just that you continue to try and silence the offended parties with statements such as " I'm not trying to stifle or censor, but you will be held accountable for your own behavior" That's exactly WHAT YOU ARE doing! I did not see you banning those other members who continued to attack my klinik, in fact this FORUM begins not to even deserve my response. I have no financial gain from this, it is patient led, and should not be manipulated by controllers of the forum. A very unsavory taste is left. These forums have at the heart management promotion not patient to patients clarity, Lucky I found this klinik before they were unfairly banned and patients silenced into submission but, other patients searching for honest reliable and fairly priced kliniks who deserve to know of patients results should be allowed to see them, the patients are the ones you restrict for fair unbiased opinion... It is really a shame as I first thought this was originally an unbiased forum when I first came here seeking desperate help for my condition. and this brings us to the original post which is why because of pricing ----- Klinik is banned - because they are cheap as chips and as good as the best surgeons in the world. gemini310's Avatar gemini310 gemini310 is offline Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 7 Last Online: 04-30-2014 07:25 PM Default Cost of FUE, increasing or decreasing? Hi, I was just wondering how much pricing has changed for FUE throughout the years. When I first started doing research for FUE transplants about 7 years ago, I think it was averaging around 3.50-5.00 per follicle. I've recently had consultations with 3 Dr's and its ranged anywhere from 7-10 dollars per follicle. Do you guys see prices going up or down for FUE procedures in the next 5 years? If money is an issue, would it be smart to rush a surgery now, or wait? My answer to this is, research, there's plenty on here to research and find a well priced 'team' or surgery or surgeon and carefully consider their results and pricing. You are more than welcome to check my thread for the positive experience I had with my new clinic. Its like being in the Gulag. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag This is the last I will say on the matter because I have been silenced by the moderators

Amazing, every surgeon and clinic is allowed to be mentioned except ----- Klinik, not even posts from their clients... weird as hell don't you think...? If we mention the name we may be banned, I can only think of one TRUE reason ----- Klinik is banned from being mentioned is because it is a direct threat to all other clinics, surgeons and competition... I have written again to moderators expressing my disgust about this, but I am informed that once again the ----- klinik is not to be mentioned, if this is not a fantastic promotion for the klinik I don't know what is. This Klinik must have everyone runnign scared, and there are two reasons, maybe three, 1. Quality, 2. Price, 3. Throughput of patients, whilst the surgeons performing their own work directly have limited throughput. Clearly transparency is not here on this forum. I'm damn annoyed... at the covert injustice and unfairness. Ive just realized my signature has been hi-jacked by the moderators and my kliniks name has been removed... This is DUGUSTING... you cheating moderators

I'm implying a scar is a scar is a scar ... And that FUE is more refined and definitely cheaper in Turkey than USA.

I said that earlier:-)

edit; So in your words and effect, in your previous post of 08.32, it appears that I now would have had to have searched and found a worlds top surgeon, with possibly outrageous prices 3 or 4 maybe 5 times more expensive than which I have paid to achieve the same results .........."Do you think you would have had the results you gained via strip if you went to a top recommended surgeon using state of the art work in 2015 having had no surgery previous?".......... the same results as I have have achieved by my clinic who have had many attackers on this forum and the clinic now banned I believe from posting along with any other patients who may want to post their results using the Surgeons or clinics name... How do you work that out? I'm sure many potential patients would love to see more posts from my clinic along of course with other surgeons and clinics. I believe (incidentally I think I have already found a world top clinic!), to boot, my surgeon, technicians and clinic have had to make a silk purse out of a sows ear without having the luxury of a virgin head to operate on, working around the massive FUT scars, limited donor area and bad previous ops by previous FUT Surgeons my clinic has done rather a fine job....as good as if not better than so called "top recommended surgeons" I believe the clinic takes care of all patients the same way as myself, with the best results and intentions in mind.

Blake, I appreciate yours and the communities support. Throguh this forum i found what i deem as a good first rate clinic. as you have acknowledged above, "an impressive transformation" has occurred in my case through my clinic. I am not on a campaign or any other reason, except, I dislike unfairness, as of late regarding my clinic who have clearly come up with exceptional results, and I have spent years searching for a good clinic which now I have found. I too need to sigh....I don't like bullies and the bashing by members, the banning of my clinic and surgeons name is nothing short of what appears to be a conspiracy against the clinic for no good reason. I am also disturbed that, you would not allow my very good friend to post his procedures from the same clinic which with respect, concerns me regarding transparency and openness for all clinic good or bad. I have previously expressed my concerns in the strongest terms privately also to you in the past regarding this. especially about the banning of my clinics name when they have been nothing but professional and capable of coming up with the results. Do you know ay clinic with a 100% SUCCESS RATE? I doubt you do, as all surgeons and clinics fall short on occasion. A review on my clinic with regards to contributions of thier work should take place by moderators of this forum on the grounds of "transparency" I speak plainly and currently see an intentional campaign against my clinic by this forum which needs to be addressed. Thanks for your support as I have already said, i would not be in such a healthy hair state had it not been for this forum. The petty destructive attacks on my clinic need to be addressed in order for the FUT v FUE saga to ebate to a more fair and reasonable discussion without having to ban post from new patients mentioning who they have been with and good, well founded clinics for spurious reasons.