fixing-it

Megatron,The strips are usually taken around the previous strip scar so ultimately you would have [1] small scar line.

When I went to see Hasson in feb. 2008 and started on proscar I used the drug store right down the street from them and subsequently kept ordering from them for over a year and they were just like the blue ones pictured,Then I switched to my local pharmacy [riteaid] this past summer and they were the round white pills.I do know the blues cut up better and easier....

Oh and by the way,PGP and Lost My Swagger really do get it!!!

Bill, Being that I had a small to medium size procedure and was only there for about 6 hours I only had 2 techs that were dissecting the strip into grafts and 2 other techs implanting the grafts.When I asked about a hair count breakdown I was told 1's and 2's and when asked about 3's & 4's was then told what I have already posted. Seriously Bill,Do you really believe they have certain Tech's only dissecting 1 hair & 2 hair groupings and different Tech's doing the 3's & 4's ?That would mean a tech would have dissect a couple then hand the piece of flesh to a different tech and back and forth.I dont think so and you know better. Bill,with you being a very conscious/awesome/fair moderator here and giving so much valuable input over the years why have you seemingly not wanted your own hair count breakdown chart for your last 2 HT's?Or better yet demanded it knowing this has been a HOT TOPIC for a couple of years now. The only sheet I saw, only showed the total graft count I was to pay for and no hair count chart.If anybody needs more info go back and read my last couple of posts again until you understand. Bill please answer the Question I posed for you,Thanks.

It is as if you did not read my post or do not understand it. I am assuming you are an intelligent adult so this must be an attempt to keep a flame war going, which I will not participate in. I'm out of here. As you only have 21 posts, I suggest you are not a vested member in the community and know a bit more about this subject than your typical 21 post member. I think this must be a smear campaign. Bill, you should lock this thread. Emperor, What does post #'s have to do with knowledge,Remember Notgoingtogobald,He never even had a procedure but posted an average of 18 posts a day for 5 months[ alot of his posts were useless ]until he was kicked off here.I had previous work done before my latest with H&W and was on here learning for over a year before I finally joined in nov. 2007. I actually learned alot by reading,not necessarily participating. So going after TC17 because of low post counts makes you seem ------well I dont know.

Bill, You can't lock this thread,just delete the personal attacks.I know PGP gets a little passionate at times but it is for our benefit. I was in the chair and asked the questions to the techs and know exactly what I was told. After seeing another DR who is recommended here and told I did not have many 4 hair groupings but alot of 3 hair groupings it did not make sense to me that I was told I only had 1&2 hair grafts when I went for my HT.This is not hearsay,It is FACT. Kudos to H&W for finally coming to the table on this.

No problem PGP, I am interested in seeing Bills response on this knowing full well Pats analogy of more slices doesn't make a bigger pizza.

All right,PGP and Lorenzo settle down. PGP has a point about the lack of graft breakdowns from H&W.This has made many wonder about graft splitting/inflated #'s for years and I can see why. Having gone there for my last HT because of their great results I did ask not one but two different techs at different times[when the other tech wasn't right there]about graft breakdowns and was told 1 and 2 hair graft follicles.When I asked about 3 or 4 hair follicles,each tech told me they never have 4 hair follicles and very very rarely have 3 hair follicles. As you can imagine I thought this sounded funny and I made sure that they were not talking just about my head and they said no,We never have 4's and rarely 3's. So Please Grow Please is just asking something alot of us wonder about and have not/will not get an answer for. Even Bill doesn't have graft # breakdowns from his 2 latest HT's on his blog,which is surprising being a very conscious moderator on this forum. I will stick by PGP and say just provide the damn hair counts!!!

I will say this about propecia,2 months is not long enough to do anything and its hard to believe your endocrinologist would not know this and have you on it for 9-12 months.

DDD03,can you name the 1st doc and also the coalition doc?Honestly only the real close up pic you can tell due to hairs per graft and the wide spacing. Good news,this is an easy fix.

Botched,Besides your complaint of your scar and the itching,what else seems to be the problem?Do you think you got the whole 2700 you paid for or is there other issues,cause there are good docs that have done unbelievable repair work that you would swear could not be fixed.

As far as I know transection is killing the follicle.Bill is talking about trimming the grafts [disecting]down to smaller grafts for more 1 hair grafts for hairline.

Bosley or MHR[they are one in the same]Do not have your best interest at heart,pretty much just making money. How come on this worldwide forum we almost never see patients who report satisfactory results from bosley? Let me ask you this Botched-When you were checking with your bosley dr,Did the doc make it seem like you were buying a new car instead of a surgery?my guess is yes. We have a MHR office close by in grandrapids,michigan and one of our local radio station Dj's had a procedure done and he was pretty excited about it.But seeing him now it looks like he has mini-grafts and he had the HT just last year and you dont here him talking about how happy he is with his Ht at all anymore.I think he may have figured it out now that he didn't get the latest refined work that is possible today. An ethical Doctor really does have your best interest at heart and un-ethical ones[and there are alot of them out there]only want your money. All docs in this industry are just not the same as you say,But at least the ones recommended on this forum are held accountable. I'm sorry that you are not happy as I wasn't after my 1st HT,But that made me research and ultimately decide to go with someone very proven. Thank goodness that there are awesome docs out there[that I found via this forum]who do the best work and are less exspensive.I get a stupid postcard about every other month from bosley and their special pricing[which is still twice as high as the best coalition docs]and I never had anything done with bosley and would not even if they paid me.

He's not going too,I've been on this forum for a couple years and every now and then you have somebody like this that just likes controversy and stirring the pot.

Botched,not to be rude but you don't know what the hell your talking about.As you say their early years,patients now are venting their frustrations from recent procedures from bosley and mhr.They might as well install a turn-style door at Bosley or MHR with all the turn-over of doctors. Its not about them not wanting to pay to be promoted on this site.It is because they dont do good enough work.Its possible if you did more homework you wouldn't be botchedinatlanta!!!

Its just a small part of the scab with the hair still attached,perfectly normal.

Masz,Welcome-You dont need to worry,that white gunk is just dead skin.I have lost a graft 4 days after my first HT and it bled like i was stabbed.People always freak out when they see the hair come off with the scab but this is perfectly normal cause the follicle is still embedded into the skin and this is just part of the shedding fase.Everything is alright.

Don't you mean 25% applies to guys with previous work since that would in fact be the slower result? Dewayne this was what I was looking for the other day when you and I posted on the other thread. As PGP stated with scar tissue,I thaught ARRIE posted something saying the vascular system around your head has been compromised from prior work and therefore alot of people with multiple sessions have a little slower growth with each later session. Anybody else experience this?

Dewayne,Yeah I am at 8 months and although I am seeing some growth now,It appears to be a little slow.[cant wait for more thickening] I too saw nothing at 5 months,but this was with Dr Hasson So I will just have to trust the process. Just getting antsy at 8 months wanting this to speed up some.

Bill,Does your growth percentage timeline take into consideration patients who have had previous work [HT's-repair work]? Cause I thought I remembered a post about people with previous procedures maybe lagging behind a little in the growth timeline like maybe a couple of months,Something to do with the vascular system being compromised and that virgin scalps generally are a little quicker on the timeline. Any posters with more than 1 HT experience the later sessions taking longer,and if so how long?

All coalition doctors have proven to perform latest ht techniques with consistency,but that does not mean they are all equal.Some are just better even if it is just a little. So think about that capt. clown.

Relax bobbycreek,you just lost little hairs with the scabs not the actual follicle-It happens. If you lost a follicle you would have a small stream of blood trickling down your head.

Hello wanthairs, I had a procedure with Dr Hasson in february of this year and am at 5 1/2 months. #1-If you are staying at the hotel they get for you,try walking to H&W,its only a 1 mile walk and it really helps you relax once you get in the chair. #2-Eat a good breakfast so you dont get an upset stomach from the meds they are gonna give you just prior to procedure. #3-Remeber why you are going to them in the first place. #4-Dont flirt to much with the techs,cause you cant take them with you. Dont worry,your'e in the best of hands.

Same old same old every month.