Al - Moderator

First I'll say I don't like the pattern of extraction because it's all concentrated in one section. They should have spread it out more towards the sides and scattered the edges a lot instead of making very noticeable straight edges to the extraction area. With that said, 14 days is way to early to know how well it will heal. When you get a lot of grafts taken from a condensed area, you are more likely to have shock loss which means some of the the regrowth can take 4 to 6 months or more.

I think some people are missing the point. The question is would you rather: 1. Have a lower, thick hairline and be completely bald in the crown OR 2. Have a higher hairline and use the 2500 grafts you didn't put on the hairline to fill in the crown. There's no right or wrong answer. Everyone will have their own preference. For me I'd rather have my crown filled in and have a higher hairline. The bald crown is what will always make you be seen as a bald person in everyone's eyes, but a high hairline, especially as you get older, is much more seen as having a full head of hair if the crown is still intact. We aren't talking about not having any hairline at all, but rather where and how would you spread out your grafts if you were a NW 6 or 7 and didn't have enough to cover everything the way you'd want to.

I would try sweeping some of the crown hair back a bit and sort of making the part at the crown more towards the mid scalp. It may provide better coverage and be less noticeable. I don't know if that will work for you or not, but the idea is to try a few slightly different styles.

Almost all of the transplanted hair will fall out and you will probably get some temporary shock loss fall out of native hair you had in or around the area before the transplant. This is all normal.

You should be fine. Most and possibly all of the scabs will gone by then and if you are only planning on wearing a hat for a few hours for a certain function then it shouldn't even be any issue. I'd try to stay away from constantly wearing a hat all the time though.

The amount of grafts needed for temple points is going to vary a lot between patients depending on how far back the temples are to begin with, how far forward you want to bring them, how much of an angle (or not) you want to create (I don't think it's a good idea to straighten them off. They should angle back somewhat), and how high your hairline is at the corners because higher hairlines can take a few more grafts because the temple points need to be longer/higher up to reach the hairline. However at the same time, higher hairlines will probably look better with temple points that don't come so far forward because you want to keep everything looking right aesthetically, so that may cancel out any extra needed grafts used to go higher to the hairline. I think temple points usually end up using anywhere from 100 to about 250 grafts per side. This area doesn't need to be thick. It's usually a naturally thinner area in most men and you want it to blend in naturally to what you currently have there.

I will add that depending on what your current hairline looks like, you may be able to get away with using only a few hundred scattered grafts along the hairline to make sort of a transition zone. This can gave the effect of looking like your hairline is lower without using up too many grafts and can also give it a more natural look as the hairline will not be a straight wall of hair.

Just doing some simple math I figure it to be something like this: 50 grafts per square centimeter at about 18 centimeters across the forehead comes to 900 grafts. You can measure your own forehead width and adjust the grafts per centimeter for your own personal estimate.

Some pimples are a fairly normal occurrence during healing.

I don't think he was saying hair loss increases because of the transplant. I'm pretty sure what he is trying to say is that hair loss generally starts out slow for a few years and then speeds up for some years, then finally slows down again. I think that is usually the way hair loss happens and it's usually around mid to late 20s when it speeds up until mid to late 30s. It varies a lot, but that is probably the most common, although the amount of hair loss is still going to vary a lot too. So you get a young guy maybe 23 or 24 who has a receding hair line and gets a transplant for the front hair line. Soon after that is when he starts getting into the age when his hair loss speeds up and he starts losing a lot of the mid scalp and crown. This leaves him with a band of hair on the hair line with thin or no hair behind it. This is why most Drs don't want to do hair transplants on young men under 25. You don't really know where their hair loss is going yet and how much it will speed up and spread in the next few years.

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My hair loss started in my crown, so my crown has always been an issue for me. I had a visibly thinning crown at 15 years old and by 16 I was combing my hair back to try to cover it. Once I started losing hair in the front, that became a big issue as well. After that, for me, there isn't one area that is really more important than another area. I wouldn't look right with a thick. low hair line and a big huge, bald NW 7 crown. I also wouldn't look right with a full crown and nothing up front, so I think both areas matter. I've noticed over the years that most men who say they aren't worried about the crown usually don't have much thinning there when they say that and then almost always come back later and want to fill in the crown once it gets worse.

They are either miniaturized hairs that you had before the transplant or they could be new hairs just coming in. Take another picture in a month to check.

I hope he doesn’t think any of us are wishing him bad luck or are against him getting a good result. That is not the case although I can see it can seem like that to someone new who comes on here to post what clinic he is going to and then gets all these responses. If he did get the surgery then I hope it turns out well for him.

They probably don't care. If you think you will just sue them if it doesn't come out good, that rarely ever works, especially with bad clinics. I went through it years ago with another unrelated clinic. They will delay the lawsuits as long as possible. The place I went to even sued themselves (each other) in order to delay any other lawsuits going forward because their related internal lawsuit had to be decided before any others could continue. Do you think they were in any hurry to settle the bogus lawsuits between themselves? Of course not. It was all part of their con. Once we were finally granted the right to move forward, they went out of business and opened a new hair transplant company the same day with a new name. At that point we had to file a new suit (i think an addendum or something maybe. I don't remember) trying to claim that the new company is really the out of business company and our suit should go on against the new company. Eventually that was cleared to continue and they just did the same thing again... go out of business and restart a new hair transplant company. Each time they would make a small change to who were the ones heading the company/founding partners. The first time the oldest one retired and they replaced him with someone else who had been working for them for a while. Then they changed some titles and who was in charge of which clinic as they had small chain of 4 or 5 of them. My lawsuit eventually ended because there were too many differences from the original company to still be considered the same. They did this for the next 25 to 30 years until they all eventually retired recently.

From your own thinking and posts here you should be able to figure out why they can stay in business. It's because there are enough people like you who insist on going there anyway even after finding out they are not good.

Just watch some TV commercials for any medication you can think of. They always tell you a long list of problems and complications you may have if you take it and a lot of times they say mention death. Right now I'm reading an over the counter pain reliever that I have at my house. It says "severe liver damage may occur" and this is over the counter (no prescription needed). If just taking something for a headache can cause death and people take it all the time, then why be so concerned only about finasteride? Now I'm not saying everyone should be on it. I used it for about 11 years and stopped. I stopped about 13 or 14 years ago and I'm glad I did because I never wanted to be on any type of medication. I'm 55 years old and I am not on any meds, so I think that's pretty good. Too many people go straight to taking pills for everything instead of doing what they should be doing such as stop smoking, stop drinking, eat better, exersize, etc. With hair loss, though, there is really not much else you can do.

I don't know if I'd classify this as a repair case yet. I'd have to wait to see how it grows. Obviously there won't be a lot of hair growing in, but if what they did transplant grows at the right angles without a lot of multi hair grafts in the front then it may be more of a case where he just needs a lot more work done. I agree with everyone who says he needs to wait until it grows in to decide what to do next.

Have you tried topical finasteride?

Right. That is what I said earlier is what I think probably happened. I said they probably did lot of hole punching to try to get grafts, but not doing a very good job of getting them out intact and so the hair will regrow since it was never removed. Cases like that look horrible right after the procedure because you see all the donor holes, but if the follicle is still there then it will grow back. The only issue you may still have is since there is scarring around growing hair, a Dr may have a harder time getting those grafts out later if/when you do another session.

This is a fantastic result for only 2440 grafts.

If I'm reading right you say you are at 7.5 months and started minoxidil at about 3.5 months (4 months ago). If this is true there could be one possibility that is slowing down your growth. I imagine you could have had a shed of the grafts that had just started growing after you started minoxidil and perhaps you didn't even notice as new grafts were growing in at the same time some were shedding. If that happened then you could still get some growth from those early ones that shed from starting the minoxidil. I'm not saying that's the case, but I'm thinking there is that possibility.

I vote to remove Dr Diep. There was a time when he was doing very good work and probably deserved to be on the recommended list, however over the past few years his work has certainly gotten sloppy and lately it seems he is now desperate to work on anyone who shows up to his office no matter if they are candidates for surgery or not. This is not the type of Dr/clinic that this community should be showcasing as one of the elite Drs in the world as it is clear that he no longer is. Unlike some others I can understand why it has taken so long to get to this point. When you have a Dr doing good work, it is easy to push aside a couple of bad results that get posted with the thinking that even the best Drs are not perfect and will get a small percentage of bad results. However there now seems to be many more bad results than good results which clearly means he should not be on this community's recommended list any longer.

You do know he used to be recommended on here, right?

Umm.... the original question was "I’m getting a small procedure in the near future to soften my hairline using nape and/or body hair grafts." Why are you against Umar for this type of work when you said it's what he does?