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So this looks like more than 1000 to you too?

Yes i have considered that. Perhaps using body/beard hair since i want to save the head grafts for my head. The problem is that some doctors have told me i only have about 2500 grafts left to use, other said a little more, but this is still after only a surgery of 1000 grafts. I also dont tolerate finasteride so this puts me in a difficult situation. What i am wondering is, should i just repair my donor and accept hairloss, or do i dare to attempt more surgeriers. I recently started minoxidil so that should help somewhat atleast. Im hoping verteporofin is what we hope it to be.

No, the outcome was terrible. Low density, weird angles, placements in a row etc. Really crappy work.

Yes, that is what i am afraid of. Difficult to know how much they actually took.

I asked them what size punch they used. They said that they use 0.7 or 0.8 depending on the patient. So larger size punches are out of the question. I also got ahold of photos right after implantation and counted the grafts on one temple. It was 500, i assume it's 500 on the other too since it is symmetric. So i dont know. maybe they botched 1000 grafts or something. Which is alot.

Here is from another view. The area looks a bit larger in the first photo since im stretching out the skin by tilting my head forward.

How many grafts does this look like to you?

The procedure was done 7-8 years ago. I have already done SMP into the area. It looks much better, but some areas are so void of hair that it is very obvious that a clump of hair is missing. Im considering BHT into the donor, since i have a good amount of body and beard hair. But my main concern is not having enough grafts for future operations.

Hi! I had a bad transplant many years ago in Turkey. The procedure was for 1000 grafts, but my donor looks pretty bad. I am much more wiser now and am looking to do repair with some surgeon recommended on this forum. My question is, do you believe the donor look bad because the grafts were not properly spaced apart, or do you believe that in their attempt to extract a 1000 grafts, they may have tried many more times and destroyed many more follicles. If you took time to read this and respond, i thank you wholeheartedly and chant a blessing to keep the norwood reaper away from you.

I had a transplant to fill in the temples. My middle front was strong, but observing photos only a few months after surgery, I can see how the middle front part also had thinned out. Many years later now, it has not restored. Ofcourse, I know hairloss is progressive, but the fact that it happened right after the procedure makes me wonder if transplants accelerate hairloss. William Rassman said this: This is an example of a young man who had a hair transplant in the first one inch of the frontal area and in the crown of his head. His hairline was perfectly restored and he loved it. During the year following the hair transplant, the hair that he had behind the hairline, which was strong before the transplant, fell out. This is not uncommon in young men as loss of the native hair in a person who has a hair transplant happens as the hair loss process seems to accelerate in men in their 20s following a hair transplant. This man was classified as a Class 3 Vertex pattern of hair loss (frontal loss and crown loss) so we fixed what he wanted fixed. Then, as hair loss is progressive, he lost the rest of the hair behind the hairline as shown in the photo below. He will now have one more hair transplant to fill in this area. This is the photo taken on the day of this second hair transplant to show the extend of the hair loss he had in just a year.

Luckily, I can cover it decently with longer hair, if I comb it in a covering way. These were all taken under harsh light. I am unsure whether my crown is thinning. I had a good transplant doctor inspect the crown and he concluded that there was no thinning there. Lets hope I am one of those with only frontal loss.

I will try to answear each question posed. 1. @asterix0 No, he is not recommended on this clinic. Yes, one should avoid random doctors in Turkey. Or anywhere for that matter. 2. @Pbaird98 By dabbling, I meant that he does not do hairtransplants full time or even half the time. He is a plastic surgeon who thought he could get some extra money by doing hair transplants every once in a while it seems. He just brought in two freelance nurses who did the whole procedure for him. He took the money I paid and gave 1/8th of that to split between the nurses. The rest was for him. 3. @general-etwan The side-effects from fin was lethargy, hard to focus, lowered libido(had trouble keeping it up with my girlfriend, even with viagra), trouble with memory (which I noticed since I work with intellectually demanding tasks daily). I first noticed side effects about 2 months in, but you get used to it and forget what you were like, but once you get off it you feel supercharged for a while and then like yourself again. Atleast, that was my experience. I know I will have to do repeat procedures, which is why I'm so interested in the question of whether I have lost usable grafts because of the way they extracted. They extracted 1000, but perhaps they rendered 700 more grafts unusable due to weird extraction patterns or damage to the follicles. It is usually said that one can lose 50% of hair before thinning is noticeable, but perhaps due to the excessive scarring, in my case it might be closer to 35% now in this area, meaning I have less total number of grafts that can be extracted during my lifetime. I don't know much really, im just trying to understand my situation and device a long-term gameplan. If verteporofin works well, I believe my problems will be solved. 4. @Gatsby Im so sorry to hear that. Were the first 5 years or repairs in vain? Are you happy with your hair now? I'm going to check our your posts to learn what steps you took. What are some issues or drawbacks you have experienced regarding your hair from having to do repairs, outside of time, energy and money spent? Did you for example have less grafts to work with so you are now a higher norwood than you would have been if you had done it right from the beginning? How did you deal with the scarring, you must have an excessive amount? 5. @Alexx Yeah suing is very difficult unless you have documented properly. And even then, most clinics do not gurentee anything, and they can just state that the bad transplant is how THEY do it and it is up to the patient to do their research.

You are right. I would like to. And it may save someone else from going there. I'm going to think about it.

I would like to name him. But he filmed me and took photos of me even though I asked not to, but he promised it was "just for him" but later added them to his website. Upon my request, he did remove them but if he finds me trashing him online he may very well post them again.

4000 grafts!? What the hell.. that really bums me out.