Al - Moderator

Umm.... the original question was "I’m getting a small procedure in the near future to soften my hairline using nape and/or body hair grafts." Why are you against Umar for this type of work when you said it's what he does?

You have a very high hairline. I think lowering it slightly would be OK. Don't lower it too much. You want to lower it just enough to make a small improvement to make yourself feel better about it. You need to make sure that if you start heading towards NW 6 later, your hairline will be high enough to work with to be able to cover the rest of your head with your remaining donor.

You should look into transplanting some beard grafts into your FUE donor scars.

I'm not in the UK, so I don't know UK law, however the "repeat performance" forcing them to pay to have it done somewhere else seems to me that it can only be applied if they actually performed the surgery and it didn't work (i.e. repeat performance). If they didn't "perform" the surgery in the first place how can they be made to pay you to have it done somewhere else? That would mean potentially any Dr who ever turned someone down would have to pay for that persons surgery somewhere else. That obviously is not going to be the case.

I wore a baseball cap immediately after the procedure to walk back to the hotel and then again the next day to walk back to the Drs office for a cleaning and checkup and to go home. Once I got home I didn't wear it again. I just hung out at home for a few days until the scabs started coming off.

Certainly looks like he has the same loss pattern as his father.

Most people use email and texts these days, but you need to send an actual letter to them through the mail requesting your medical records including any and all photos. You should write something similar to: ----- (Date) (Your Name and mailing address here) (Clinic mailing address here) To (clinic name here) and Dr. (Dr name here) and staff, I have sent several (emails, texts , phone calls - whatever way you have been communicating with them about this) regarding my medical records and photos. I am now sending you this letter to formally request that a copy of my complete medical records including any and all photos be sent to me at the mailing address shown above. I am requesting these records as it is my legal right to do so. Please respond in a timely manner, so that this issue does not escalate further. Thank you, (your name here) (handwritten signature here) ----- Keep a copy for yourself. You should send it by certified mail if you can as that is the best way to have it legally recognized as being sent by you and received by them. If you don't get anything from them within a few weeks you can give the copy of the letter to a lawyer. Most likely you will get your records from them very quickly because they know once a lawyer gets involved and they have refused to send you your medical records that could be a problem for them. NOTE: I am not a lawyer. I am only giving my personal opinions, however sending a letter like this worked for me years ago.

I think @AB2000 tried putting about 200 grafts of either arm or leg hair into his nape area. Hopefully he will respond and correct me if I'm not remembering it right.

I didn't see any pictures of either one of them. Without pictures there's no way to know how bad that hair transplants were or if one wasn't a candidate or had BDD. Just because the news article says he did, doesn't mean anything. He could have been legitimately traumatized by the disfiguring of a bad hair transplant. We just don't know. Unless there are pictures I'm missing.

You can't compare two people exactly even if they had the same area to cover and had the same amount of grafts and all of them grow. One person may have thick caliber hairs while the other person may have thin, fine hairs. In that case the results will look more full and dense on the person with the thicker hair shafts. Just something to be aware of.

It's new hair growing in, so it will probably thicken up and mature over the next several months just like transplanted hair. See how it goes for another month.

I was also thinking you could add more grafts and was going to comment that I think you would do well with a small session of a few grafts to partially cover it. I wouldn't put grafts all the way down the redness area, but just doing a bit should help you more easily cover the rest of it and make it less noticeable.

That's a huge improvement from the 4 month mark. It looks great for 5.5 months and it should thicken up some more in the next few months.

I read the first post several times to try to understand what is going on. It sounds like the referral service is not directly connected to the HT clinic you went to. It sounds more like a sort of travel agent for your hair transplant, setting up the airline, hotel, transportation, etc. If that is the case then I don't think there is anything you can do. They probably gave you the only answer they were allowed to give you regarding your diabetes. they aren't Drs, so they can't give medical advice. They would have to tell you to speak with the Dr. which is what they did. They can't refund your money because it was spent it at the hotel and for the flight. They don't have anything to do with those entities other than setting it up and coordinating it for you. I don't know why anyone would go to a referral service for something like this. Normally you should get in touch with the clinic directly and ask them. The Turkish clinics usually have someone who will handle all of this for you with the added benefit that they are actually working for the clinic and can answer questions that pertain to them and the procedure which a general referral service can't do.

Thanks for coming back and updating us on what you decided to do.

While the density is a bit thin, I think what makes it look worse is that the grafts are transplanted pointing straight up rather than angled forward. This is what is giving it that stalky, wiry look which also also makes it appear thinner because with the hairs pointing up it makes it very easy to see the space between them.

The amount of hair you have for a 48 year old is probably in the top 1% of all 48 year olds, probably even the top .5%. You have more hair than I had when I was 17 and that's no exaggeration. Can you lower the hair line? Yes, technically it can be easily done on you. The question you need to ask yourself is will you be happy with it and what will you do and feel if you don't like it. A NW4 or NW5 having a hair transplant is usually much easier satisfied with all the added hair they get than someone who already has a full head of hair and is scrutinizing every strand of hair on their own head trying to figure out where to add hairs to make it perfect. This is what it seems like you are doing. I will make a prediction that if you do go through with it you will end up thinking it's the worst thing you ever did. Why? Because right now you have a totally natural hair line that looks great for your age. A hair transplant is going to lower the hair line only very slightly, but it will never look as natural as it does now. For someone like yourself who constantly tries to examine it to see if it looks better or worse than yesterday, I can be almost 100% sure that you will not like the unnaturalness of a transplanted hair line. Yes many transplanted hair lines look great, but it's very rare to really get a totally natural effect.... and as I said, with someone who is so mindful about what it looks like, you will not be happy with something that is not your own totally natural hair line that you have now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you should very seriously think about this.

This is very rare with FUT, but seems to be more common with FUE. My opinion is with punch sizes getting smaller, it will become more common. I've said before I think this is a risk with punch sizes smaller than about .85.

I'd say it depends. For NW 4 and below it shouldn't matter much, but if you are NW 6 or 7 then you may have to part your hair on the side to get an illusion of coverage. Some Drs suggest weighting the grafts to the part side, so you can make a good part and grow your hair long and comb it over to cover the rest. Some men seem to like that and it can give you better coverage, but I was never really a fan of it myself, at least not when it's too heavily done. However there is an art to placing a limited supply of grafts into areas where they will make the most visual difference and that is certainly better achieved if you discuss how you would like to comb your hair. This is one reason why some Drs prefer working without shaving your head. They get a better idea of how your hair lays on your head and where thin spots are. For example my hair has a bit of a wave to it, so if I shaved my head the Dr wouldn't know how and where it curls. With long hair it's easier to see that the hair falls a certain way, so there may be thin spots where its curling away from which can use a few grafts, but maybe you don't need any where the hair curls towards.

In NY you can try looking at Dr Robert Dorin at True & Dorin. He takes grafts from beard and chest.

Yeah I wasn't trying to say you are in a bad spot. I think you are looking good for 5 months and it will certainly get a lot better in the next couple of months. But with that said, almost everyone who is at your level of baldness goes back for another pass to add density, so it makes sense to plan on that.

There are so many variations of hair loss. It's not that a diffuse thinner can not have a transplant, but if certain characteristics are present than it may be much harder to get a good result.

I have this problem too. Complete hair loss in the back up to at least the middle of my ears. Believe me it can get very noticeable.

You should consider getting on finasteride first because you have a lot of miniaturized hairs on your crown. If you can thicken them up with medication then you won't feel like you need a HT in the crown.

Haha. I saw it and thought: Wow. Even Sasquatch is getting a hair transplant these days.