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Great result brother. You are easily looking 20 years younger.

Did they prescribe you finasteride/minoxidil or anything else? What about prp?

@LaserCap @gillenator @pkipling @nishchd @aaron1234 @Mr S

Update after almost 10 months

Monsoon season is here and the shedding has almost doubled. Had an itchy scalp today so touched the middle of the head very very lightly and boom four hair strands with the root fell off. I "think" and I am not sure but I feel that the transplanted hair are also shedding though their shedding speed seems to be less than the native hair. The clinic would only vouch for the PRP. For me personally it is a waste of time and money. About 3 weeks back I switched my shampoo to some other brand, from a baby shampoo to some herbal shampoo. Used to use oil sometimes and aloevera mostly  after taking a bath. Changed the aloevera brand too as the one which I was using was out of stock. Now maybe the shedding has increased due to the shampoo or aloevera or maybe it is just the weather I am not sure. Have stopped taking whey all together, though studies have not shown whey's impact on hair but some members, including myself, feel that it has an impact. Very very light or most of the times no exercise at all in a week.

I think the transplanted hairs, as suggested in this thread, have sprouted to their max potential and I don't think that finasteride should have any impact on them now. Please correct me if I am wrong here. In my area 1mg finasteride is easily available. Should I start with 1mg every alternate day? Any need to add minoxidil or any other product?

https://www.1mg.com/search/all?filter=true&name=Finasteride 1mg

https://www.netmeds.com/generics/finasteride-1mg

On 7/25/2020 at 3:45 AM, gillenator said:

You also have a wide color contrast which makes everything much more visible.

How do you feel about the angulation of some of the grafts?

Sorry for the late reply, was busy in some personal issues.

You also have a wide color contrast which makes everything much more visible.

I am sorry I didn't get this.

The angulation is okay-ish types. I mean it looks fine in some areas but in some areas huge gaps can be seen even. I will share a photo to explain what I am trying to say. Some grafts, I don't know if this is an issue or not, seems to have been transplanted in the wrong direction or maybe this is because I have curly hair I can't say.

Makes sense.

I think PRP, this mesotheraphy and tons of other things that the clinics vouch for are just marketing gimmicks. I didn't feel any difference with the PRP sessions that I took.

I think the same goes for finasteride also. I have seen people posting here that they were prescribed finasteride for 6-8 months after a transplant and then they had to stop it. The shedding phase while starting and while stopping made me skeptical whether to go for it or not.

Looks great. Give it more time.

Are you taking finasteride?

Indian borders are open but only for people who got the Visa's back in March. In some certain cases they are giving Visa's. Your best bet would be to contact the Indian Embassy in Australia.

P.S. My friend from India went to the US 20 days back.

On 7/18/2020 at 3:24 AM, gillenator said:

If it was me, I would wait until all of the grafts have sprouted, roughly 12 months post-op.

Then once you start finasteride, it should not cause your transplanted hair to shed...you may shed native hair, but usually not the transplants.

Now, you understand that the grafts will initially shed post-op roughly 2-4 weeks post-op which is normal, right?

Then, after they rest for 3-4 months, they start to regrow new hair.... and after 12 months, they have pretty much all sprouted.

I have known too many guys who started finasteride immediately after surgery and then had issues with the regrowth period.

So IMHO, waiting for the regrowth of the grafts to manifest before starting finasteride makes much more sense.

On 7/20/2020 at 12:15 AM, pkipling said:

Everyone's hair will have gaps like that when it's wet, so don't overthink it. None of us will ever achieve 100% density, so it really does require each of us to properly manage our expectations in regards to what is possible for each of us, and then choose hairstyles/products that specifically work best for our own unique hair type, hair loss, density, etc. 

If you're on the fence about finasteride, personally I would start it sooner rather than later, following some of the excellent advice you received from other guys in this thread. To be cost effective, you can get the 5mg Proscar and cut it into quarters (1.25 mg). Start with a low dosage and take 1.25 mg every other day, for example. The specifics of how you want to tackle this are up to you, and you could consult with your doctor for his input as well when you get the prescription. At the end of the day, the only way you'll know if Finasteride is a good fit for you or not is to try it... So the sooner you start taking it, the sooner you'll know if it's something that's for you. 

I don't have specific hair products to recommend, but I always navigate towards things that are fairly natural and don't use animal testing. In my experience, those products are usually more gentle on my scalp. 

As for the protein powder, first off, I don't think there's a direct correlation between protein powder and hair loss. And as for milk being good for the hair? Perhaps, but I highly doubt it. Most humans generally ascribe to this idea that milk/dairy are good for us, but I don't ascribe to that. I don't consume animal products for many reasons, and specifically don't consume dairy because I simply believe that a cow's milk is for the baby calf, not for humans. There's lots of research to back up the health benefits of eating plant-based, but that's up to you to decide. Personally, I wouldn't touch whey or dairy with a 10 foot pole.  

All of this to say that you have to find what works for you. A lot of it will be trial and error, tbh, and I think that's how a lot of us end up landing on the various things that work for us.

Thank you guys. As @gillenator has suggested will give it a couple of more weeks maybe months, fingers crossed, before starting finasteride. BTW attached are the photos from the front just after a basketball game. One can easily tell that the frontal area is transplanted. No issues for me but the gap or the poor density bugs a lot. On the right side where the hairloss was more looks weird. The skin on the transplanted part is also kinda red. It used to be like blood red but it has become less red with time.

8 hours ago, gillenator said:

IMHO it is always best to start finasteride 9-12 months prior to surgery...I never like the idea of starting the initial use during the regrowth period as we all know it can potentially induce a shed and who wants that when you are waiting for the grafts to start growing?!

 

The shed which it will cause is really really confusing me whether to start now or wait a bit.

I have read threads posted here by people from various parts of the world. They have mentioned that they were not on Finasteride but after the transplant the doctor prescribed it to them. For some the prescription period was 3 months, for some 6-10 and for some forever. Now what you have mentioned is also true. So, what should one do at this stage? If wait then for how long before starting Finasteride?

5 minutes ago, nishchd said:

I still think that you are thinking too much and your hair look great, hair transplants are never perfect, I have had 3 and I still need more. Try to change the hair style, go for side and back short hair cut , do some experiments and see how does it look. 

Wet hair reveals gap in I think everyone's head ,even on the guys with dense hair.

If you want to go for Fin, go for lower dose to start with like .25mg and see how you accept it.

Oh do you think that Fin is needed for the same then?

Any brand for Fin which you can suggest?

18 hours ago, Shagul said:

Hi bro u from? i m from india

India. You got it done from Morinda?

Like @Melvin-Moderator has posted in the replies, only Eugenix is the best in India. But they do not have a clinic in our state+they are very expensive than the other clinics. For the latter part, their quality is also very good.

Taken from a little far away, the gaps are less visible from a distance

@pkipling @nishchd

Just after taking a bath with nothing applied on hair. See the gaps/lesser density part both on the front and back. This makes me go for finasteride

Same case with me

From where did you get it done?

6 minutes ago, HTHope said:

Do you henna your hair? I’m wondering where the light brown hairs are coming from 

Yes. I mentioned it in the original post. Is it fine for hair?

11 hours ago, pkipling said:

OP - A little outside perspective for you...

You have an amazing head of hair and it seems very likely that you're overthinking this way too much. We shed an average of 100 hairs a day... And if you're washing you hair every other day, the natural hair fall you experience will build up and can often look more alarming than it actually is. Also, 10-20 hairs really isn't anything to be concerned about, especially considering how thick and dense your hair already is. 

You can try finasteride if you'd like. Many guys have success with it, and and some don't. I didn't respond well to it, but the only way to know if it's for you or not is to try it. 

My last piece of unsolicited advice is to ditch the whey. I have no idea if it has an effect on your hair, but it isn't very healthy. Full disclosure that this advice is coming from a vegan, buuut I think a plant-based protein powder would be much better for your overall health, especially considering most protein powders contain metals and other toxins. I use a brand called Vivo Life that tests for all of that and it digests really well. 

Take all that for what it's worth - and good luck! (And seriously... Your hair looks amazing. Know that.) 

Thanks for replying. PFA the photos with front part after spraying with water. See the gaps/less density. It worries me a lot

So, should I get on the finasteride train or not? I am ready to stick with it for a year to see some results. But two things keep on bugging me, a. Do I really need it or not? and b. That fast shedding phase when we start and stop it worries me.

Can you suggest something natural to apply to the hair to set them? In the below photos, I applied aloe vera gel a day earlier after shampooing.

You are right. @Melvin-Moderator also suggested the same. The clinic said that whey, as it's made up of milk, is good for the body and hair. But IDK I react differently to it. To each his own. Light exercise 2-3 times a week, sounds good?

And I am sticking with the cap from now on once again.

15 hours ago, nishchd said:

By side effects I meant sexual side effects,low libido and ED. I testicles get some weird sensations even after taking one pill and it stayed for one week.May be I am too sensitive to finesteride and it might not be the case with others. But i have heard some horror stories about finesteride where men didn't recover at all by the side effects.

Different clinic every time because I wasn't satisfied from the work from my previous two HTs. But I think I am lucky 3rd time lucky now and chose a less renowned clinic which care more for their clients and are more professional and not after money only.

Oh. Did you try saw palmetto? Again can you share the name of the third clinic or pm me? Have you shared your experience with photos in some thread?

21 minutes ago, nishchd said:

Also can you share your pre and post surgery photos?

Will share more later as they are in my other phone.

19 minutes ago, nishchd said:

Hi Mate,

 

I think you got a fantastic results and I think you should not worry at all, You have quite a thick hair man, regarding your Hairline, i think it is intended to have a zigzag pattern to make it look more natural but you have thick hair which is giving some kind of unnatural look, but By time it will soften up for sure.

Regarding Finesteride, I will 100 miles stay away from that thing. It gives me side effects like a nightmare. I would not consume it by any chance even I lose all my hair in future. My overall health is more important. I try to control the DHT levels naturally by having green tea, pumpkin seeds, procapil serum and overall healthy diet. PRP also helped me alot. So I will continue this lifestyle. I did my transplant (all 3) from Chandigarh but from different clinic Everytime.

The problem is with curly hair the gaps are very hard to view. About the hairline I was not talking about the zig zag pattern but it is not in continuous pattern and the density is very bad. It can be noted when I have wet hair. Will share photos with wet hair.

Side effects like? Do you exercise, consume whey etc.? And do you experience hairs coming out while applying anything on hair? What exactly do you use on hair to set them?

So, that means darling buds, reviva and one other. If you don't mind me asking, why different clinics each time?

Just now, Rolandas said:

Oral minoxidil is the very first form of Minoxidil that's been discovered, but it's very strong and taken orally will get systemical causing all sorts of issues with heart as it's a blood pressure medication.

Even nowadays Dr's are prescribing different type of medication than loniten as it has too much dangerous side effects.

Maybe a video on its side effects, eh?

On 7/12/2020 at 1:58 PM, nishchd said:

Hi Mate,

I am on my 6 Months after HT, shedding a bit too, but I think its normal to shed more in the monsoons or the month of july due to humidity levels. Don't worry your hair will come back as the season ends. I have noticed this from last few years, my hair gets thinner in summers and denser in other seasons. I have read about this in many articles as well. 

I would like you to add salmon fish oil Omega 3 in your regiment daily and See if it helps.

@LaserCap

I was told the same thing by the clinic. Monsoon season has started here and first the clinic said to ignore it. When I said I was very worried they told me to go for finasteride and see if it works in 15 days. If it does they told me to continue for 3 months. They said shedding 200 hair per day is okay. But when they come out while applying aloe vera gel or something that is really not okay for me.

Uploading some photos. I am okay starting finasteride but should I wait for this season to pass or should I start finasteride right now? Also what are your views on minoxidil tablets?

Please check the hairline. It is not in a line, I mean somewhere hair is on the line and in some places it lags behind. Lesser density is in the hairline and also in some areas behind the hairline. This confuses me a lot whether to go with finasteride or just wait a little.

@nishchd

Hi, From where did you have your transplant brother? So, you are also not going for finasteride?

Looping in @gillenator and Rolandas

10 minutes ago, Rolandas said:

Professional yt'ber 🤣 Thanks I guess. I just enjoying the process, so you know..

No, I'm getting Finasteride from online pharmacy here in UK. I wish I would have the balls to get on oral minoxidil! 😁 Maybe one day..

Anything wrong with that?

Congrats Rolandas. Become a professional YT'er.

Did the doc prescribe you finasteride? Are you on 1mg per day? Also are you planning for oral minoxidil?

21 hours ago, LaserCap said:

Nice to hear from you.  Hope you are staying safe which is the most important.

Are you in the dessert?

Why are you stressing? I learned long ago the next day typically things tend to resolve themselves without intervention.  Most worries are for nothing. Work on it.

Simplify your routine.  Try baby shampoo or any with no alcohol. Shampoo does not need to be expensive.  Why do you use oil?  As humans we naturally secrete what's needed. Try not using it for 1 week and report.

Most believe shedding 100 hairs a day is normal.  This will happen randomly to every hair throughout your head.  That hair will return.  The hair you need to be looking at is the miniaturized hair, (and you do have a few). You can determine this by looking at the shaft of each strand.  This is evident mostly on the hairline and temporal areas.

DHT is the bi-product of testosterone. The more testosterone, the more DHT.  That's why DHT blockers like Propecia are typically discussed during a hair restoration consultation. By taking Finasteride, you are dealing with the issue.

Get on 1mg Finasteride and don't stop. If not available, get the 5mg and split it into 4. You will do this for the rest of your life.  Not doing it or taking it and then stopping is just a waste of time and money.  Let me give you an example.

My son now 27 has been of Finasteride for 8 years.  He has a beautiful set of hair. (There is tons of history of severe hair loss).  Say he was supposed to have lost it all by now. If he stops the med, within one year, he will lose all he would have lost.  It would be dramatic to say the least. (If he was not supposed to lose any, he will lose nothing.  But this is the gamble - not knowing).  So you need to rely on family history to give you somewhat of an indication as to what's going to happen.

Vitamins are not helping you with hair retention.  They can help make the hair look the best it can be but that's it.  If you're used to taking it daily, continue.  No harm.

I am not a fan of minoxidil.  I like the laser better.  There is plenty of evidence out there suggesting there is synergy when combining modalities.  

Thanks for replying. Not in the desert just usual temps here in summers. Ah you are right, no point in stressing. I think I need to cool off a bit.

The only reason I use oil is because I have curly hair and without using any product I am not able to set them in any way. Oil helps a little in setting them up. Aloe Vera does too. I don't know if there's any other natural product out there which can be used and which is harmless.

Finding a shaft of each strand in curly hair is a mess.

Hairline is fine so far as it has transplanted hairs.

I am ready to get on finasteride but the only thing which worries me is the faster shedding phase when we start taking it.

Is whey protein okay to consume? Do you recommend wearing a cap nowadays too?