Kiwi Guy

1 hour ago, RecessionProof said:

I think he’s into his mid 60s at this point.

I’m having my first procedure done with him in a few weeks (most likely FUT), not sure what I’m gonna do down the line once he retires! His protege Nadimi is doing similar looking work so far, here’s hoping she can carry the torch. 

Mate good luck on your procedure, keep us posted, I'm interested in going to him as well.

8 minutes ago, Kvn said:

I'm pretty new here myself, but I've definitely seen a number of opinions corroborating this one.

Also thinking about going the Rahal/Erdogan route for FUE

Cost wise Erdogan seems to be the best bang for your buck but it also sounds like he runs his clinic like a factory, 5+ hair transplants a day and if you have a good look at his results posted from patients on here, it's a mixed bag and thus he has his supporters and his naysayers. The proof is in the pudding, the common argument for proponents of his is that all surgeons have their average to poor results, yet I find it hard to spot any bad results posted by patients or the clinics of surgeons like Konior and Hasson and Wong etc. You tend to get what you pay for in this industry, much like many others. Do your research thoroughly like I am and when one seems to fit your criteria go for it I say... I'm close to making my decision, the info is out there, don't let those with vested interests in particular clinics or those with axes to grind because of a poor result or unrealistic expectations sway you from what is right in front of you often times.

From what I've seen Konior is the leader in hair restoration. The recent results he has posted of his FUE work looks so clean and meticulously done that you cannot argue against it. The only two negatives with him are the long waiting list, it's something like a year + at the moment and also the cost, he charges a lot. Rahal seems to be really good with hairlines and FUT especially but I have seen mixed results with his FUE's recently.  Erdogan has some good results but also the most mixed results of the ones you've listed that I know of though he has the most results also posted on this site so that means there is a larger sample size as well. Dogonay I can't speak on as I haven't paid much attention to him. Good luck with your search mate, I've been doing mine for 6 months and it's still ongoing, it's such a big decision.

Thank you for all of the updates, it's that type of information that is invaluable for all of us on this forum, appreciate it bro. I think everything is looking on point, Dr Diep gets great results and you will be in for one from the pics I believe. In terms of his donors, they always concern me, it's the whole transection thing I cannot get past. Yes his results are good but I worry it's ignoring the need for subsequent HT's for patients in the future. With an FUT/FUT/FUE mix you can get up to three or four good quality HTs, with two Diep FUE's I would be highly concerned that you couldnt afford another full HT just based on how sparse the donor would be after two, but that's just going off visual evidence on these websites.

You have a thick, dense head of hair sitting beyond the initial line of hair loss, a hair transplant of 1500 to 2k grafts I bet would do absolute wonders for you bro, and if you keep your hair long on the sides like that you could easily have an FUT over an FUE so to get a better transection rate and better graft quality and it will cost less. Best option in my opinion.

See a doctor, don't let that fester and get worse, it'll leave a horribly large scar if you do, nip it on the butt early.

7 hours ago, pkipling said:

Yes - and not only that, but it's important to weigh every possible factor. There are pros and cons and risks to any medical procedure. A red flag for me is when I sense that someone is chasing "perfection", because that is unattainable and will most often result in disappointment. 

Good point, however I also feel like some of these clinics are to blame for that because they really do sell you on these near perfect transplants that seem to completely restore your hairline when in reality these results are very few and far between and the truth lies some where in the middle.

Can you post a picture of you with how your hair is currently without you pulling the hair back and stressing the area just to see how your hairline is naturally sitting and whatnot? It looks like your temples have definitely been filled in but based on the natural density of your native hair and the safe amount of hairs per cm2 a reputable surgeon like Dr Gabel can do it's not out of question that it wouldn't be visible under harsh lighting or when wet... also are you on fin to stop further hair loss?

12 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

This could work, but now he’d be getting FUE then smp to cover the scars. All of this for a tiny amount of hair loss. In my opinion, it’s just not worth it. If he needs less than a 1,000 grafts he’s got a full head of hair. 

yeah this is true too... I'm learning from you guys that you really need to weigh up how much you actually require a hair transplant.

You could always look at getting scalp micropigmentation onto the scarring after you've healed to further hide the FUE dots if you really wanted to go to a zero guard. I don't know how effective it would be but it's a way of seen people camouflage the work they've had.

10 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

I don’t think I’ve seen where those concerns about donor management were answered by Dr Diep, but what Melvin said does make sense.

Recently, the Doctor has posted a video on his YouTube channel showing a patients donor area shaven, I’m willing to wager he’s read the concerns on this forum of his recent patient and others and this is his rebuttal to any concerns.

 

Thanks for this Cosmo, I bet at a 2 or 3 guard it wouldn't be noticeable on this patient. Things often get blown out of proportion when speaking about donor area's etc I've noticed.

You are lucky to have that curly full hair bro, because if you ever go down the surgery root you will have a great donor area and curly hair is known to give a much better illusion of density than straight hair, so you will win this battle in the end as long as you stay on top of it, be strong and do what you need to do for it to slow down is the first step, like the other guys said, fin or dutasteride asap, also rogaine.

Ok, thanks for the explanation Melvin, you say he's replied to those questions several times, I didn't know that, could you direct me to the discussions/ threads/ youtube videos where he has replied to those questions? I'd like to know specifically if his use of a larger punch size also depletes the donor for future FUE's due to the scarring and transaction of surrounding hairs. If he manages to get the same amount of hairs from the donor as other top surgeons and yet uses a larger punch I would almost certainly go with him based on his results. I'm not trying to be critical of his work, just trying to figure out who to go with, still lol.

I wish you did he seems to get some amazing results but for those of us trying to decide on which clinic/ surgeon to go with it would've been great if you had broached those questions so he could lend some explanation to those two particular subjects, especially with having as good of a rapport as you seem to have with him. Clarity with things as important as what I mentioned above could mean the difference between him receiving another few patients or not. Oh well, it is what it is.

Two of the most frequent questions I see a lot of us asking in regards to threads relating to Dr Diep are 1. what are his reasonings behind the size of the FUE punch he uses during extraction and how that leaves the donor area post surgery and more recently 2. why he has been extracting from just one side of the head as opposed to a more uniform approach that seems to be more industry standard... did you ask specifically about these things?

Realistically the only one I know who does the extractions, incisions AND graft implantation's for the most part by himself is Dr Konior, there may be others but I don't know them.

Awesome write up bro, very informative, takes a lot of time and willingness to help others to type something like this up so kudos to you, your final results came out great and look natural af, good stuff!

Hey man, good luck on your journey, two very good clinics, any reason you chose Wong over Hasson specifically with that clinic?

It's coming along great man, good growing!

10 hours ago, bman3082 said:

honestly man if you can just wait until im at about 10 months (which would be in June). At that point I'll know with certainty whether it was a success or failure. Like I stated originally, I am still optimistic since ive honestly only been in the growth phase for about 3-4 months but looking at JohnRoss is really deflating to be frank

I hope you get some amazing growth in the coming months mate I really do, if not you should contact the clinic and make your issues formal with them, with the amount of money you pay it's just not good enough.

I'm disappointed to see this result for you bro, I really hope it gets a lot better, I was considering going with Rahal myself but something like this is definitely a put off.

Good question, one Ive never seen on here before.

do you have any pictures of your donor pre and post op?

7 hours ago, Shifty said:

Documenting here - https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/52518-growing-hair-back-the-big-3-journey/

 

what I am doing religiously

 

Started taking Finesteride 1MG September 26th (Hims)

Started derma roller October 18th (2 times a week Thursdays nights and Sunday nights, no minoxidil on these nights)

started Rogaine foam 2nd week of October (morning and night)

using Shampoo Containing  1% Ketoconazole (2-3 nights a week)

currently using PhotoWorx Organic Hair Loss Shampoo w/ plant stem cells for recovery and regrowth (using this for 2-3 months)

will use Photoworx on days I do not use Keto shampoo

Once or twice a week I blast my head with ice cold waster for a minute or 2

Vitamins:

Daily and Nightly (been taking these since 2012) https://bit.ly/2JZ1gQC 

Sr Sports biotin with coconut oil 5000mg https://amzn.to/2FjoiD6 (taking this for last few years)

 

 

 

thanks for the response shifty, so this has regrown dormant hairs or just strengthened existing ones?

6 hours ago, Shifty said:

@Raker I  threw everything and its uncle at my head and grew a good portion of my hair back, I'm at the point where I may as well try this too lol

what was it you've thrown at your hair to get it to grow back?