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I haven't posted in ages but I just had my 6th, yes 6th FUE surgery. I started back in 2004 and this was my second procedure with Dr. Lorenzo, the first one being 3 years ago. The quality of his surgery is night and day. I'll concede that when I started out, the procedure hadn't evolved into what it is now even though the FUE docs were making big claims, but there's no other doctor I would let touch my head. Flew across the Atlantic Ocean both times for the work.

I'm interested in this too.

Is it available to US now from H&W? How can you get it?

Thanks for that info. Unfortunately I was a guinea pig in the early years of FUE, fooled by major clinics (still operating today) that FUE was the new gold standard. In hindsight I would have gotten a couple of strips w Hasson and been better off today. Thankfully Jose Lorenzo was able to fix me up although I need to one more procedure. No one mentions much how after several thousand fue your sides look thin when cut short making the benefit of keeping your hair short with FUE invalid.

Right. I figured. And hair multiplication is still 5 years away as it has been for the past 15 years? Thanks.

Because they were adamant for over a decade that fue was inferior to strip as recently as a couple of years ago when I was told by their rep (who now works for a fue clinic) that I will never get good growth w FUE. Don't get me wrong, Hasson is probably the most skilled surgeon out there.

I haven't been on the forums in a long time. Hasson & Wong do FUE now?? Hilarious. Any new treatments out there? Surgical, Medical, topical, stem cell? Or is it still the same old, same old?

So nothing new? I've been hearing 5 more years for the past 15 years. What happened to Aderans?

Hasson is doing FUE now????

Lot of us have flown overseas and to far away places to get the right work done. Going to the wrong doctor can cripple you.

It always goes, my friend. Guys get the wrong impression that they are holding onto their hair with propecia, rogaine, or various experimental concoctions and they just will need one surgery or they can get some really low hairline but you lose all the hair eventually. I think very few people actually grow some hair on meds. That being said the meds can slow the loss down considerably. I should have been a NW6 by 22 but 14 years later I'm still holding onto some hair.

You're a funny guy and I'm not worried. I think the pics are pretty damn excellent. High quality, large size. This site seems to compress them but the originals are 36mp.

I've been on meds for 14 years. It has slowed down my hairloss considerably but after 14 years most of it is gone. Just the bottom half of the crown under the whorl is left and that is very slowly going too. I'm not sure why you think it's too much density. Take a closer look. It's plenty thin. The hair is long and combed together to give myself the best cosmetic look as are the hair styles in just about every result posted by famous clinics such as H&W. A shorter haircut would make it look much thinner. I took the pictures myself in my home. The pre ops were done by Lorenzo on the day of surgery. Forgive me for not have given enough effort to match his pics.

I agree. When you spend such a huge amount of money it's absurd that the doc typically only comes in to make the slits for the grafts. Generally in a FUE clinic, a tech does the extractions for hours and hours, the doc comes in and makes slits or a half hour, and then more techs place the grafts for hours and hours. With a strip, hopefully the doc is cutting out the strip himself in all cases. Lorenzo does everything. His implanter pen allows to bypass the slits step. He places the grafts in himself as an incision is made by the pen. I know clinics go on and on about teamwork and how their techs are so experienced but considering the huge amount of money spent you should get 95% of the work done by the doctor himself.

Thanks, David.

Yup. Thanks, man.

Hello folks, I don't get on the forums so much these days because I'm thankfully not so stressed over my hair anymore. I wanted to share my experience. I've talked about it before but to remind you I had or was led to believe I had thousands and thousands of FUE grafts over the past decade in 4 separate procedures by two separate doctors. The first two were done by a well known doc for being one of the first to perform FUE in the states ( I believe he is not allowed to be mentioned on this site), about 3,000+ total. Looking back now I realize the growth was horrible. Bad angles, placement, poor growth. 1mm scars in the donor. I then had two with the designer salesman con artist from Toronto who eventually had his medical license taken from him and apparently still runs a clinic in Beverly Hills. He charged me for 4,500 grafts but I had come to realize eventually that he split the grafts and probably only extracted a third of that. More bad angles, too straight of a hairline, poor growth. No donor scars at least. Slowly my hair continued to thin despite the meds and with the poor planning by myself and these clinics I was left with what you see here in the before pics. I went to see Dr. Lorenzo in September 2013 with great hesitation. I had almost done a strip convinced for awhile that FUE always leads to poor growth but Dr. Lorenzo proved me wrong. His ability is on an elite level. Not only did I get excellent growth but the actually procedure was so easy. Barely any pain. No swelling. By day 3 post op there was no sign of surgery. The implanter technique makes it so much easier on the patient because you skip the step of having your head stabbed with holes or slits thousands of times. Way less trauma and quicker. 2,600 grafts mostly in the crown, some to touch up the & soften the hairline, some to rebuild the temple points & hide the bad angles, and some in the top middle area/vertex? I plan to get another 2,000 or more in 2015 but for now want to enjoy what I got. Much thanks to Mickey85 for all the advice.

Same here. I went to a bad FUE clinic years back and the tech overharvested in a small area. It looks thin when shaved but is still not so bad that anyone notices. I'm sure there are still plenty of negligent FUE clinics out there doing this. You have to be very careful in the doc you choose whether it's FUE or Strip. I had 2600 FUE with Lorenzo 5 months back and I don't even notice any thinness from that. He spread out the extractions methodically.

Thanks Mickey. Still got a long way to go though. I'll post pics when I get close to a full result in a few months.

Glad to hear. These guys are just on a different level. I feel cheated but best to just look ahead.

I'm at 5 months post op with Lorenzo and have had FUE done several times with notable clinics. The yield is already better than my previous (same amount of grafts more or less). The post op recovery immediately after was a breeze compared to the others. By days 3 or 4 you couldn't tell I had anything done. No pain, no swelling, no scabs or blood.

If you have typical mpb there's a good chance as you age every part of the donor will thin, even the 'safe zone.' I'm saying the safe zone is not entirely safe. Luckily for many guys this isn't something that will happen until they are in their 60s.

I wouldn't dismiss the thin donor as shock loss. It can very well be just natural thinning of the donor region which happens much more than guys on the forums, especially reps & docs, would have you believe. The 'permanent zone' is not completely permanent. Another reason to avoid strip. As you age, if your donor thins, the scar could be revealed.

I've never had blades but I had my share of needles that most docs use. I had FUE 3 months ago with Lorenzo using the implanter. I never experienced such a clean and barely painful procedure like this. I DID NOT have any scabs and obviously barely any bleeding from Lorenzo! In two days the recipient area looked only pink and the hairs from the grafts protruded out of the scalp looking like normal growing hair. Also with the implanter, the incision and the insertion of the graft is done at the same time. This skips an entire step that is necessary in other methods (blades or needles). I can't emphasize enough how much is easier this is on the patient. I had 4 separate surgeries with other doctors before this last one. I would no longer ever undergo any other method than the implanter although only if it's in Lorenzo's hands. I can't really say about other surgeons who use implanters.

Size of the punch, extraction tool. 1mm in diameter and larger especially.