Regular Member Bullfrog Posted March 17, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hi all, Firstly I would like to say a massive thank you to all you guys on here that have helped me through a difficult time in my life!!! Without the help from you guys on this Forum I think I would of lost my mind... A special Thanks goes to Bill, for the guy's that are new to this site, then well done your healing process begins here!! Just start asking the questions and be prepared for allot of research and reading. You will get the answers!! I have been considering a HT now for the past two years, I am a Norwood 4 here is my personal conclusion.. There are NO Aussie Doc's out there to Help, Not at present anyway so Travel is a must for fellow Aussie's!! I couldn't afford the Top boy's Hasson & Wong, Bernstein or Feller which I believe to be the best! fortunetley for me the Answer to my bolding problem has been staring me in the face all along!! THE BUZZ CUT.. it has worked wonders, I have gone for a grade 2 and WOW.. I LOVE IT! and guess what so do the lady's!! It's a miracle.8 years of complete paranoya and for what!! I'm Not saying that I may not click back on this site at a later date, but for now I'm happy as Pig in Shit. If i hadn't of done the old buzz I would have chose Dr Path from Thailand for my procedure whom i believe through exstensive research and recommendations to be one the best and whom had reviews from Hasson and Wong. The plus side I here the service is top and because of where he is based is also very CHEAP!!!!! Anyway thanks again and Goodluck to all of you. I wish you all the best!!!!!!!! BULLFROG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Bullfrog Posted March 17, 2008 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hi all, Firstly I would like to say a massive thank you to all you guys on here that have helped me through a difficult time in my life!!! Without the help from you guys on this Forum I think I would of lost my mind... A special Thanks goes to Bill, for the guy's that are new to this site, then well done your healing process begins here!! Just start asking the questions and be prepared for allot of research and reading. You will get the answers!! I have been considering a HT now for the past two years, I am a Norwood 4 here is my personal conclusion.. There are NO Aussie Doc's out there to Help, Not at present anyway so Travel is a must for fellow Aussie's!! I couldn't afford the Top boy's Hasson & Wong, Bernstein or Feller which I believe to be the best! fortunetley for me the Answer to my bolding problem has been staring me in the face all along!! THE BUZZ CUT.. it has worked wonders, I have gone for a grade 2 and WOW.. I LOVE IT! and guess what so do the lady's!! It's a miracle.8 years of complete paranoya and for what!! I'm Not saying that I may not click back on this site at a later date, but for now I'm happy as Pig in Shit. If i hadn't of done the old buzz I would have chose Dr Path from Thailand for my procedure whom i believe through exstensive research and recommendations to be one the best and whom had reviews from Hasson and Wong. The plus side I here the service is top and because of where he is based is also very CHEAP!!!!! Anyway thanks again and Goodluck to all of you. I wish you all the best!!!!!!!! BULLFROG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Bullfrog, Your post goes to show that hair transplantation may not be for everyone. Sometimes styling our hair differently, shaving our head, etc may be the solution we are looking for. After all, this day and age is a good time for bald men. The shaved head look is in! For people like me however, I never felt that I looked good with shaved head. Back in high school, I shaved my head for a swim meet and lost a girlfriend immediately following. I hated the way I looked with a buzz cut, but surely, many guys can pull it off! I am glad you are at peace with your decision. And the good news, if you ever change your mind, you can reconsider . Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted March 17, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2008 Congratulations; that is seriously great to hear, and I'm extremely happy for you. I can really imagine how amazing it must feel to discover "the cure" out of the blue, and have it be such a simple thing at that. To be honest, I sometimes do think about maybe having tried a bit harder to like and work towards the shaved head; without a doubt, I feel I've made the best decision in going the route of HT's, but I do sometimes wonder if there was something I could have done to get myself to accept buzzing my head. And as Bill mentioned, this is a great era to go that route if there ever was one. With young people, especially, I think advising them to buzz their head, get in reasonable shape, and be active may very well be the best route, to at least try out. ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dewayne Posted March 17, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2008 I concur with the above posts. I've said it before, but I have business contacts with a lot of wall street types in the investment business and quite a few of them wear shaved heads. I think it looks great, if: 1. You're not a fatass, 2. You dress sharp, 3. You don't let it bother you. Unfortunately, if you get a bad ht then shaving is out of the question. It's always amazed me at how some guys show no confidence, while others who shave their heads exude extreme confidence and it's like they don't know they are bald. (Remember the Seinfeld episode where Elaine's boyfriend sported a shaved head and said "I'm not bald, I just shave my head because I like the way it looks." When he let it grow out he became severely depressed that he was actually bald.) Anyway, congratulations! 100? 'mini' grapfts by Latham's Hair Clinic - 1991 (Removed 50 plugs by Cooley 3/08.) 2750 FU 3/20/08 by Dr. Cooley My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Cooley Current regimen: 1.66 mg Proscar M-W-F Rogaine 5% Foam - every now and then AndroGel - once daily Lipitor - 5 mg every other day Weightlifting - 2x per week Jogging - 3x per week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted March 18, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 18, 2008 Some people are cool with shaving their head. For me, I think it looks cool in your 20's maybe 30's but after that in my opinion, it looks a bit odd. But hey, some people don't mind being overweight, dressing without style and that's ok . As long as they are happy JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest josh - b Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 hey bullfrog, I'm very glad that you're happy and that the buzz cut works so well for you. You've saved yourself lots of inconvenience and .....money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted March 18, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 18, 2008 dewayne, you missed one point: you can't have a badly misshaped noggin! i did the buzzed-real close look for 2 years before getting an HT. while i could have lived with it, i did get a bit bored with the look after a while and it's nice to have some options. on the plus side though you never have to think about styling your hair, drying it, and you can save some bucks on haircuts and styling products. I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dewayne Posted March 18, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 18, 2008 Originally posted by hairthere:dewayne, you missed one point: you can't have a badly misshaped noggin! Yep, for sure. I think mine is a little misshaped and weird looking as well. It was the early 90's when I was losing it and a shaved head was definitely not in style then. 100? 'mini' grapfts by Latham's Hair Clinic - 1991 (Removed 50 plugs by Cooley 3/08.) 2750 FU 3/20/08 by Dr. Cooley My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Cooley Current regimen: 1.66 mg Proscar M-W-F Rogaine 5% Foam - every now and then AndroGel - once daily Lipitor - 5 mg every other day Weightlifting - 2x per week Jogging - 3x per week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted March 18, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 18, 2008 dewayne, good luck with your upcoming surgery...nervous at all? I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dewayne Posted March 18, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 18, 2008 Originally posted by hairthere:dewayne, good luck with your upcoming surgery...nervous at all? Well, I'm not so much nervous about the procedure itself as I went through it years ago and I'm sure it's even less traumatic now with the new technology. I am anxious about my return to normal routines. I own my business and I'm usually not good at taking time off from work. (I can surf forums all day as long as I'm at least at work.... ), but I've always had a hard time taking time off. So, I wish I had about two weeks to lay low. I might try and work from home a few days next week but we'll see. 100? 'mini' grapfts by Latham's Hair Clinic - 1991 (Removed 50 plugs by Cooley 3/08.) 2750 FU 3/20/08 by Dr. Cooley My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Cooley Current regimen: 1.66 mg Proscar M-W-F Rogaine 5% Foam - every now and then AndroGel - once daily Lipitor - 5 mg every other day Weightlifting - 2x per week Jogging - 3x per week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member anonymous man Posted March 18, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted March 18, 2008 When I watched the film Hitman the other month, I started a thread - I thought shaving your head would be fantastic - he looked awesome in that film (the main actor, whoever it was). Im definitely in for the shaved head - I just need to move out of home first - theres no way my father will accept a 'junky, criminal looking neo nazi shaved head hooligan' in his house If it gets real bad, laser treatment for me - full shiny head, no stubble nothing - and just claim to people that I was so tough, hair got scared to come out of my head ahhh the ramblings of an insecure boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member notgoing2gobald Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 Bullfrog, Im truly happy for you that your thrilled and excited over your *current* situation. Given your current options (i.e. choosing between a surgery from a doc who is not considered "world-class" & accepting your current situation and attempting to improve it by shaving down) you definetly chose the most favorable option. There is a TON of discussion about shaving down your head prior to having a ht to see if your happy w/the "shaved" look, as it is "popular" at this given time; however I think there is a bit of equivocation going on here w/these terms. The *Shaved* Look vs. The Balding Look: in order to truly have the "shaved" look, which is currently deemed as not only acceptable but "cool" by todays standards, one must have BOTH: a relatively low hair line -AND- a TON of stubble left on top, so it actually appears as the "shaved" look. If one does NOT have BOTH of the above, your essentially settling for the *bald* look, which if your happy w/then a ht is out of question for you. The reason why there is such a HUGE cosmetic discrepancy between the cool "shaved" look and the *balding* look, is that if one does not have BOTH a relatively low hair line AND a TON of stubble on top, then they will have a SHINY head which MERELY looks like a bald head; not anywhere NEAR the *shaved* look which is currently acceptable... On top of that, even if one has both of the afore mentioned, which is VERY rare for men suffering from MPB, one will perpetually fear their impending doom as both the hair line AND the stubble on top will eventually fall out, leaving them with the *BALDING* look... All in all, I think given your current options you made the right decision and Im glad you feel so relieved and happy w/your current situation. Having said that, I think that the real TRUTH about the coolness of the *balding* look is really swept under the table given what I perceive and have laid out here... It's really not a viable option for most currently, and NONE long term, UNLESS your actually cosy w/the BALDING look... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member something Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 ng2gb, you make your argument as if its the objective truth. the shaved look is the same look that Yul Bryner went with many years ago, which is again in fashion. for a example, most people cite Bruce Willis or Jason Stratham as examples of the shaved look. and no, you dont need to have a hairline to pull it off. its not the same as shaving with a full head of hair like Beckem, but it serves its purpose and is considered the same look. i tend to agree that it is often times much cleaner looking then having thinning, weak hairs all around. and often the case, better then some HT patients rolling around with a combover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member notgoing2gobald Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 i tend to agree that it is often times much cleaner looking then having thinning, weak hairs all around I agree 100% -BUT- it IS the bald look... "you make your argument as if its the objective truth"... Do you *seriously* not see a cosmetic appreciable difference between a man who shaves his head w/NO MPB -AND- one who shaves his head w/no hair on top? The former has a *shaved* head look. The latter is merely *bald*... It is true, that Bruce Willis is often cited as having the *shaved* look -BUT- it is primarily on the Balding Blogs... Bottom line: he looks 'bald' & so do ALL others who ARE bald and shave their heads; where as one who has NO MPB shaves their head will in NO way look bald. While it's easy to call one w/a shaved head and NO hair line and NO stubble on top "shaved" they are simply bald... It's REALLY clear to me and I don't see how ANYONE could make a reasonable argument that a BALD man w/a shaved head, MERELY looks like a man with a "shaved" head (?!?!?!)... Seriously (?) THAT doesn't make sense to you or anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member notgoing2gobald Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 and no, you dont need to have a hairline to pull it off. its not the same as shaving with a full head of hair like Beckem, but it serves its purpose and is considered the same look ok...it's NOT the same as shaving like Beckam -BUT- it *IS* considered the same "look" (?) this is PRECISELY my point of contention, THAT IS that it is NOT the same look and here is a pic to exemplify the difference... Yeah, his hair is NOT bic'ed, but WHEN is it? Even if it ever IS, it would look COMPLETELY different than the Yul Brynner pic above... BOTTOM LINE: one looks BALD & the Other looks SHAVED... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member notgoing2gobald Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 BTW----I just did a search on Beckham to see if there were *any* MORE shaved down pics of him and I couldn't find a thing... Here is a "shaved" down pic of Willis to contrast the difference between the 'shaved' look -AND- the 'BALD LOOK'... If ANYONE has pics to prove me wrong between the two looks, then I would LOVE to see them; as I feel this issue is OFTEN misrepresented and makes NO sense... let's see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member notgoing2gobald Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 Hmmmm.... *bald* -OR- *shaved*? Geee, I *REALLY* can't tell? can YOU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dewayne Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 I must admit to being a bit taken aback by the argument; as I've never really thought of it in these terms. Of course there is a difference between two men shaving their heads where one has a head full of hair and the other is balding. But, I still think the shaved head on a balding guy looks great if he meets a few requirements: mainly a good shape, thin, clean looking, etc. Most people I see with a shaved head I assume are thinning so there really is no need in my mind to think about the difference. The guys who look good, imo, are obviously thinning: M. Jordon, Andre Agassi, Willis, etc. But, their thinning is the main part of what makes it cool imo. They don't try and comb it over, cover it with a hat, conceal it, etc. It's like "I don't give a damn!" And to me, that makes a hell of a better man than David Beckham shaving his even though he's got a head full of hair. 100? 'mini' grapfts by Latham's Hair Clinic - 1991 (Removed 50 plugs by Cooley 3/08.) 2750 FU 3/20/08 by Dr. Cooley My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Cooley Current regimen: 1.66 mg Proscar M-W-F Rogaine 5% Foam - every now and then AndroGel - once daily Lipitor - 5 mg every other day Weightlifting - 2x per week Jogging - 3x per week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 NG, Stop it with the Bald Porn, you have admitted to cruising the bald blogs. This is in direct violation of the HT nation. For your penance, you must pluck 10 hairs from your crown, tape them to your forehead and reveal yourself to the public. NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 Jason Statham is an *aberration*, imo...MPB has afflicted him to a vicious extent, and buzzing down it is apparent that his follicles have suffered great. Now, he completely pulls off the look, and I think he is the perfect example of a bald guy with a shaved head looking good; HOWEVER, 99% of people could not pull off that look with such a degree of baldness even if they are in good shape, and even if they have solid head shape. He is the perfect example, but this also makes him a total outlier. To a degree Bruce Willis is in a similiar category; his aura, which has accumulated through years of media exposure and slant, is that of a tough, reckless guy -- impervious to ridicule. It is his mystique and image; something with 99% of people simply can't have, regardless of whether they are tough or fit, because they are not celebrity superstars with a meticulously crafted image. At the same time, it is true that in and of itself, a shaved balded head is superior to the same mop grown out. But, it isn't a panacea that absolves one from being, and even looking, bald. The most opportune situation to shave a head is if you are young, have modest baldness, and are using the shaved head to put your MPB out of sight & out of mind until you can get a HT. Or, if you are a bit older, are fit and dress sharp -- in which case it comes off as cool, in a defiant way. Personally, I have looked better with a buzzed head than with brutalized hair grown out, especially when I was in very good shape; but, I still looked and felt bald, after an initial "honeymoon period" and I couldn't convince myself that it was truly a viable option for me. **A thinned, balded buzzed head at a young age still makes you an esthetic pariah. An unfortunate truth for those who are younger. It is indeed superior to having grown out hair, and can be a good compromise, but I don't view it as a viable, long-term solution for most, unless you fall under some of the aforementioned categories. ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member something Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 i love how you show pictures of men that are 10+ years older in age... i understand what you are saying, but you act as if you have brought into fashion, single handedly the "shaved" look. if you know anything about fashion in general, it was brought on by balding men, not the other way around. Then after it became very exceptable in the fashion and media world, many men with full heads of hair started shaving it off. Before, a white male shaving his head was looked upon as an ex con or neo nazi.... My god, how you spend this much time on a forum without ever having gotten an HT is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member notgoing2gobald Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 OK... I had never even heard of this pat yullner cat, whom you brought up, then there's D.Bheckam and the notorious Bruce Willis who EVERYONE cites on the blog for the shaved look.. "but you act as if you have brought into fashion, single handedly the "shaved" look"... WTF?!?!? I seriously have NO clue what the hell your referring to here... "if you know anything about fashion in general"... ---no sorry pal, guess you got me there Fashinista'! It's my opinion that the *shaved* look on a bald dude, just looks like a bald dude. Period. "My god, how you spend this much time on a forum without ever having gotten an HT is beyond me"... Your taking personal offense and making this personal merely because I disagree w/your opinion...(?) Yep, I spend a $hit load of time on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member something Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 my bad, didn't mean to take it that far...been a tough day all around... just trying to point to how the shaved look was brought into the mainstream, and it was from the balding men of the world. so yes, i agree that having a full head of hair shaved down is better, being bald and shaving is pretty damn good compared to the combover. sorry about getting personal, maybe its your avatar, that guy really bothers me...haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member notgoing2gobald Posted March 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2008 that's why I like the avotar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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