notgoing2gobald

that is TOO funny, especially when your bragging that you have excellent patient care by virtue of only doing one procedure a day... are there more ground hogs day's in Florida?

that's ok, she was probably tying you down anyway. your too much man for any one woman to handle!!! perhaps, two or three this time will better suit you? glad to see your back, I miss your funny posts!

I think it's plausible anyone could do this--- shave your head down to a #1 guard take a high resolution pic of your noggin count away... or better yet, download it on your computer, blow it *way* up, then using photo shop or some other application one could even 'dot' each follicle w/a color to ensure they don't re-count the same grafts. man, only a *real* hair geek would do this! *I* can't wait!!! Brick Wall, do you *not* even want to tell us the # of grafts you had moved, and the other questions? (go ahead, just ignore the questions as though I didn't even say anything)...

Ummmm...ok. In the pms and even here I asked you questions (not who your doc was) like: how many months post op are you? how many grafts did you have? can you elaborate on those divits? I swear talking to you is like having a conversation with a BRICK WALL ... Im in a bad mood I give up...

"off the charts" w/reference to you was the extent to which you SPUN the event: turning the fact that the TECHS were out drinking the night before into a POSITIVE experience, one which "can (uhum) actually INCREASE overall work ethic"... "Off the charts" w/respect to me---yeah, and Im always TRYING to be that way, and they are virtually all OFF THE CHARTS in the "OFF-TOPIC" section. I trust members of the forum have enough inteligence to interpret/determine *when* I am joking and when I am not... I never said them going out drinking the night before WAS INDEED THE SOLE CAUSE... -BUT- it would however cause alarm to me. And I really wouldn't view it as a positive thing either, promoting work productivity... So what of it then---- if hair pieces *can* cause delayed or even poor growth, then why didn't dr.e tell him this PRIOR to surgery? haven't heard an answer about THAT one, even though dr. e cited it as a possible cause along with the COLOR of his hair?

oh PA--LEEEEEZE! SPIN MAESTRO! So should I take out the tech staff and doc for a night of drinking the day before my surgery? Im not saying this is what caused it, but it would definetely leave me w/cause for concern...and your bit about..."can actually increase overall work ethic"... is just off the charts dude! Is that in the DSM? Hey, if this forum ever bites the dust you can probably find a job at 1600 Pennsylvaania Avenue!

It's not the fact that they were "socializing" during the procedure, it *IS* the fact that they were out DRINKING the night before and couldn't even REMEMBER some of the events that took place that evening... Not hysteria---just a matter of fact what the patient heard. Your calling my recounting of facts "hysteria" when your SPINNING my point that they were out drinking the night before by trivializing it into 'socializing' *during* the procedure, that obviously wasn't my point of concern... ALSO--- Nobody bats a 1000 I think 4-5 patients w/little to no yield a *YEAR* is WAY, WAY too many irrespective of what % of their total patients this constitutes. In my research of Hasson I couldn't find ANY patients w/such staggering results; and I went back AS FAR as the forum would allow me, several YEARS worth of posts; emailed every damn patient of his I could find....*this* pales in comparison.

stupid, but true thought: I don't like the fact that the 'techs' were giggling trying to remember who danced w/who at the club the night before and how MANY *drinks* they had, perhaps they were still tipsy the next morning or had a horrific hang-over (?)... I would be shi$$ing in my pants and all over the dreaded CHAIR if I heard such a discussion while they were handling my precious follicles... I'd probably grab my grafts from them and run out the door w/my 5,000 bloody slits all over my head, run to AMPM buy some ice, and try and insert them myself...

Wanthairs, what's up dude? Busy now w/your new mop and your mega babe? Congrats to you! Go to H&W and get yourself done w/merely ONE LAST procedure, rather than popping out these 2K sessions in succession... I hope you do, and are sporting a mondo moxy mop! good luck!

Why didn't Epstein inform TTDS this at the time of his surgery then? While the rest of it sounds calm, cool, and level headed....I dunno. Four or so patients who have significant concerns who are all at 6 months+ post op? They should be at 60% growth by now, let alone TTDS 9 month (?)...In addition, while post-op pics would be 'helpful' for TTDS, it really isn't that important, in that he was totally BALD prior to the procedure. We should be able to tell if 2,500 (or however many) grafts are growing out of his BALD head? What does it matter where they were placed? Unless Dr. E put them in his side burns or beard or something, it really doesn't matter---- he was *BALD*... It was previously sited that 4-5 patients w/poor growth a year is a "meager" 5% of his annual clientel; and that the 'x' factor was attributed to be the culprit, in discussions w/other experts in the industry (i.e. Feller & Matt Shapiro's patient educator) they claim there is NO 'x' factor, w/the exception of grafts "thinning" on those patients who have 'quirky' genes. Even still, it is no where near 5% (?)...and the 'thinning' phenomena is SURELY not what is happening w/these patients. they simply are not GROWING the grafts that were placed... Sure, it all sounds level-headed: we want to give him the benefit of the doubt, the patients aren't *fully* matured yet, etc. etc... -BUT- I dunno...four or five patients ALL w/the same problem, that is *no* growth, and one of them is already NINE months out? Most, if not all, of the grafts should already be visible on his scalp, they would merely not be matured yet...too many 'bad' coincedences as far as Im concerned...

yesss...baby... whenever---wherever... luscious latina golden locks 'n hips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-3brRCRsA8

Mmmmmmmm..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfADAejS-OQ (can't sleep...wonder why...)

BAAA-HAHAHHAHAHHAH!!!! are the red lines your 'proposed' *hair line* (?)... and the 'proposed' clinic, was named after a fine Italian suit? that same Italian Suit said I could look like the attached pic w/but mere one Mega FUE sess!!!

Oh, I deleted it cuz I thought it was redundant as I posted the same thing on the HAIRWEKNOW&JULLIETTE 'play'... here--- I wish *all* patients went to top notch docs such as Hasson & Feller, then they could be dancing a jig a'top a roof w/Feller over their new found hair; (substitute 'rich-man' w/ 'hairy-man' in the following): ----'FELLER ON DA' ROOF'.... ----original context: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=145177 PS----damn, Im getting old! I just did a beer-run at my local store to pick up some New Castles, and this kid (looking *all* of 20 yr's old) walked up to the counter and uttered: .....'Uuuuummmmmmmm.....do you have condoms?'.... the cashier quickly assisted him...I paid for my 12 pack a New Castle then, I proceed to the parking lot, to my car, only to encounter this fine lil baby (all of 19 yr's old) is awaiting this cat in the car w/some *OTHER* 20 yr. old dude...No doubt, they just met this 'prospect' in question at the local bar, and she decided to get tag-teamed tonight....(sighs)...no joke, real story. I gotta get my hair line rebuilt, perhaps some botox in the forehead, then sign up for some 'child-psychology class' or 'art history' at the junior college N pimp some 19 year old lil baby!!!! wish me luck all!!!!

steak, hookers, vodka, MEAT n greet? eh, Im game any day of da week!!! Seems like the East Coast hair geeks n British Bald Boys got their game together more for such conventions... I thought for sure a Vegas one adorned w/hookers, filet mignon, and vodka would attract all red blooded men this side of sharia law but haven't gotten any RSVP's as of yet... At the time I thought it would have been a really cool get together; don't know why more dudes aren't game (?)...discussing mops over vodka n steak, w/hookers?...what's missing? I guess your case fascinates me because it seems so rare: relatively young, several procedures from Bosley, then an additional one from Feller, and all is *still* golden years later... In addition to that, I have first hand read of Feller stating that you are "done" w/respect o ht's...so I just wondered how you both (you and Feller) felt so confident w/the top of your mop? I mean being so young, I thought you would have to plan for future loss? I've always thought of the meds as a short term *delaying* therapy at best, but you and Feller feel rather confident in your case. I guess Im questioning because it seems like such a rare and *ideal* circumstance to be in... So there is *no* "official" Feller position as to the longevity of effectiveness of fin? I have read that some docs feel after 10 years of use it begins to lose it's effectiveness...are you savvy to any of Fellers positions on this?

(note---do you *really* wanna HURT the ht doc? do you *really* wanna MAKE him *cry* over his reputation? Can't you see he's been hurt enough?Much more than those who sat under his knife, his surgery, his cost, and their patience w/no results!!! The doc is *very* emotional! Can't you see he learned his lesson? Do you *really* wanna hurt him? The doc is, dancing, frolicking, flirting around his prospective (bald) patients in an emotional frenzy; in attempts to both woon their sympathy AND lure them as clients for surgery? Did you see the JUDGES long, beautiful *wig*; jury's still out but the JUDGE looks sympathetic to the case...) GIVE *HIM* TIME TO REA---LIZE HIS CRIME...

(note---do you *really* wanna HURT the ht doc? do you *really* wanna MAKE him *cry* over his reputation? Can't you see he's been hurt enough?Much more than those who sat under his knife, his surgery, his cost, and their patience w/no results!!! The doc is *very* emotional! Can't you see he learned his lesson? Do you *really* wanna hurt him? The doc is, dancing, frolicking, flirting around his prospective (bald) patients in an emotional frenzy; in attempts to both woon their sympathy AND lure them as clients for surgery? Did you see the JUDGES long, beautiful *wig*; jury's still out but the JUDGE looks sympathetic to the case...) GIVE *HIM* TIME TO REA---LIZE HIS CRIME...

K.C., already a very nice change from your pre-op pics! I bet the next 3-4 months is when you are going to see the most *dramatic* change, as all of these hairs continue to thicken and mature... thanks for keeping us in the loop! Congrats and keep us posted!

Mike, congrats on your excellent surgeon selection as he is my #1 pick too! I can *completely* relate to your thoughts on Hasson as a surgeon. Im a diffuse thinner as well, and Hasson is one of the few who appear to truly dense pack w/in native hair; also, when I first found H&W's website I was so BLOWN away by their results compared to other docs, I thought it was fake!!! Seriously, it took me many months of research to realize the guys on this forum were legit patients and H&W was indeed truly cranking out such phenomenal mind blowing results compared to all the competition!!! That being said, are you sure your not already on their pay roll? If I had just joined this site, I would have pegged this as an infomercial!!! You have like TEN Hasson hyper links in your post!!! Ha hahahah!!! I hope, for Hasson's sake, your not as emotionaly charged and as expressive as you currently are, *if* your a late bloomer and experience extended periods in the doldrum phase! All in jest my friend. Congrats and keep us posted; care to share any pics, or are you going to after the surgery? PS---man, can you go back and edit your post? After every 3-4 sentences hit the 'RETURN' button and make some paragraphs? I couldn't make it all the way through that thing, kept getting lost trying to follow each line...

So are you going to use this thread as your running hair blog? I think you should, because you keep telling us bits and pieces on other people's threads, but then stop.. you don't have to tell us your doc, thats cool. what month (post op) are you at now? how many grafts did you have moved? what nw level were/are you? these 'divot's how bad are they? your saying the recipient slits the doc made are still visible to you? I pm-ed you several time w/out a response...but that's cool too...

Spex----thanks dude! Im sorry to hear that, that poor SOAB is *still* bothering you...perhaps you should give O'l Bosley a visit and give him a good, hard, kick in the aRse!!! thanks for your input on your case, but I have to say it still perplexes me. I mean, you obviously don't need any more grafts put on top, but your still relatively young. you have appeared to have halted your loss and maintained all of your native hair for a *very* long period, which you attribute to fin. One Question---- does Feller believe, since your a great responder to fin, that it will work indefinitely on you?

The 'x' factor: this is interesting because this is what Dr. E is citing as an explanation (which is outside the hands & thereby responsibility of the doc in question) of some of his patients. I recall one of Shapiro's patient educator's stating that the 'x' factor, is non-existent; that is, that he believes if there is poor yield or poor growth, it is a result of some human error in the clinic who performed the surgery. His explanation is in two of his posts on the following thread, which by my lights, precludes the notion of some "mysterious" 'x' factor, unless there are def. causes which can be pinned down (i.e. cigarette smoking, etc,): http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/346...111027073#8111027073 Additionally, the only other doc (or only doc) I have heard discuss this was Feller. His explanation of the 'x' factor, though he did not use that phrase, was that *some* patients, although extremely rare, will experiencing thinning of the transplanted hair a couple years after the proceduure, -BUT- *that* is a much different phenomena than poor yield/growth and *that* is the ONLY thing he attributed to the 'x' factor... any thoughts? has anyone ever heard of a top notch doc discussing the 'x' factor as it relates to poor yield/growth?...

I can understand both parties desire to express themselves on this *heated* thread: the patient: made a tough decision, spent all his savings, underwent the procedure, has waited nine months w/little to show for it other than a scar. Now the doctor has sited two possible reasons of explanation (gray hair & the piece) for this AFTER the surgery and AFTER nine months, which is especially concerning for the hair piece. doctor: feels as though his very reputation is being boiled down to one single thread on the forum after years of work and hundreds (thousands) of successful ht's. us (forum members): I for one *never* questioned the "intentions" of Dr. E only the results. I don't appreciate the comments by some that make it sound as though we're making a big to do over NOTHING, turning a mountain out of a mole hill, in some wacky cyber space consperacy theory fashion...*that* is certainly not the case. There have been about 4 or 5 patients who have recently (w/in the past 4 weeks *alone*) had some very serious, legit, concerns about their results from this doc. So we're discussing them. That's what we do here. I don't view any of that as innapropriate or jumping to conclusions.

egghhhhhhhhh.... Im so tired of arguing over Armani. -He makes outragous claims w/no evidence to back them. -He has no ethics. -He's now in the practice of wasting a sig. % of one's finite donor, so he can conceal the lack of yield in his mega FUE. if all that sounds sexy to you -OR- if you don't believe any of that, then----go ahead and go to Arnami.