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I would have to agree, I do not feel Rassman should be added to the Coalition. If you ever look at his blog he uses it as an advertisement to gather more clients at his inflated prices. I would say he is a better than average surgeon, but there are much better surgeons on the coalition that charge reasonable prices, some of them are down right cheap in my opinion. If you check his patient portfolio you will notice he rarely does megasessions, but prefers to break it up into smaller procedures. I for one would not go to him for a transplant.

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I have been reading with interest the thread about Pat's visit to my office. It is great to see so much discussion. I found the discussion of my fees was lively, but I think it is understood by most, that fees are a reflection of a ??supply/demand' economy. I have patients who fly in from around the world to see me and I have done surgery on heads of state, movie stars, prominent business leaders, royalty, as well as ??common' folk like the rest of us.

 

Value is something I discuss in great detail in my writings and fees are only one element of the value formulae, and that is often missed when everything is simplified to asking "How many dollars per graft am I going to pay?" The meaning of value was extensively covered by me at http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/10/12/how-do-i-know-im-...f-grafts-i-paid-for/ and I would advise those reading this entry in HTN to look carefully at that referenced page.

 

I don't think most of you realize that I have trained some of the better hair transplant surgeons around, and they include: Drs. Robert Bernstein, Paul Rose and Ron Shapiro as well as others who may not meet the standards of this network. Many of the doctors I trained participated in training other doctors, so the techniques that I developed have had iteration upon iteration of evolution and enhancements made by each of them. This group has shared information on techniques over the years so whatever advancements were made, benefited all. I am especially excited about Dr. Jae Pak, NHI's present Associate Medical Director in California, who has worked silently behind the scene with me for 9 years. He was responsible for many of the innovations and the technologies that were developed, patented and published by NHI (e.g. he started the FUE technology with me in 1998 and has helped develop and fine tune many hair transplant instruments since). Some of these instruments will eventually find their way into every hair transplant surgeon's practice.

 

I have followed the HTN site and comments by Pat over the years, and although we have had our differences in style, the site appears to play a significant influence in helping people sort through the overwhelming amount of information needed to make informed decisions on the choices for selecting hair transplant services. The site also offers value to those doctors who do not have the marketing expertise or computer skills to be able to drive their message to the buying audience, so Pat services doctors as well as prospective patients. I hope that the association between HTN and the New Hair Institute is long and fruitful.

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Hi Dr. Rassman, and welcome.

 

I am truly glad that you have been included in the Coalition because you have been at the forefront of change and while doing so, trained some of the finest HT surgeons in the world.

 

I also respect the fact that you can address this issue with an open mind and without negative discourse.

 

I can certainly understand your supply/demand economic base. Why would you feel the need to adjust your fee structure when patients are flying in all over the world willing to pay you for your services? In addition, it is somewhat of a false dichotomy for anyone to attempt to determine a "man's worth" for anyone other than themselves.

 

However, I think what you will find, at least here on the Hair Transplant Network,is that many of us feel an obligation or responsibility to "give back" to the community that has fostered so many successful hairtransplant experiences. In doing so, we feel it is neccesary to take a wider perspective and that includes the entire hair transplant experience, start to finish. That includes cost vs results.

 

In saying this, I would be remiss if everytime a prospective patient asked about you and your results, I did not mention the costs associated with your practice. This does not have to be done in a negative way, but it will arise EVERY time, unfortunately. Please do not be offended or incensed when a veteran poster offers Dr. Shapiro, Dr. Rose, or Hasson and Wong as alternative to yourself or NHI because of cost.

 

I hope your involvement here will be one of education and unbiased debate, as we need more physician interaction on subjective topics.

 

 

Again, I want to say thanks for being a pioneer.

 

Thanks for becoming a Coalition Doctor, and a special thanks for training with the guy I think is one of the best in the world, Ron Shapiro!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

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Dr. Rassman, thank you for your input. I have to say, after reading your blog and contemplating "your" description of value, I'm not seeing it. You are insinuating that many doctors break down grafts into sub follicular units and you are somehow giving more value because you are giving a true number of grafts. Well, first of all, only a handful of the coalition surgeons do that, and their prices are very low comparatively. It is not a matter of trying to inflate the graft count. It is a matter of philosophy of technique. In the end, for what you get, your prices are still higher.

 

Having said that, I do believe that it is a supply and demand economy. If you can get away with charging that much based on having trained others and pioneered certain techniques and instruments, I won't hold it against you. I personally would not use your services because the other coalition members offer the same quality for less (supply and demand works both ways).

 

I think as long as prospective patients understand that Dr. Rassman is performing state of the art hair transplantation equal to but not better than other coalition members, he should be invited to join the coalition, regardless of his pricing structure.

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As I mentioned in my earlier post, my issue with Dr. Rassman being a Coalition member has nothing to do with the quality of work provided.

 

Dr. Rassman - Thank you for posting. I do understand that you have been a pioneer in the industry on many fronts and, additionally, that you have trained some of the finest surgeons around. This benefits any and all who are experiencing hair loss and choose a surgical alternative to restoration. I did read the referenced link but, to me, it only explained that some surgeons treat grafts in a different fashion with respect to the division of grafts. What it didn't do is help me to understand why I would opt to choose you as my HT surgeon versus someone who will deliver equal results for less than 1/2 the price?

 

Pat and other forum members - Though Ethics is not mentioned (though it is implied) in the Coalition Membership criteria as a requirement it is mentioned in the opening paragraph I quote here:

 

"With hair loss treatments often being marketed without regulation or accountability, hair loss sufferers need credible information about legitimate treatments and the ETHICAL physicians who provide them."

 

Again, I have no question in my mind that Dr. Rassman is a quality surgeon, however, to me, quality includes a fair price for services rendered. If supply/demand is the determining factor in driving up the fees and Dr. Rassman can charge $10 per graft and have an overload of patients, maybe I'm off base here. In my search for an HT surgeon, market competitive pricing showed $4.00 to $4.50 per graft with a discount to $2.00 per graft for anything more than 2000 grafts. Of the prospective HT patients I've interacted with on the board, in my opinion, even those who were able to pay for their procedure in cash would opt for the less expensive surgeon if quality is the same.......I believe this is a reasonable assumption.

 

Pat........this is your call to make. I wholeheartedly appreciate what you do, and what you continue to do with the information you provide for those experiencing hairloss. So please take my comments in the fashion which they are intended......constructively. ETHICALLY, in no way will I recommend anyone seeking advice here to see Dr. Rassman. Opting to pay a premium for a better product/service is one thing..........paying more than double for that IDENTICAL product/service with the same result is wasteful and foolish. Again, we're here to provide guidence and direction for those suffering from hair loss. What kind of guidence are we providing if one of our recommended surgeons costs more than twice the others but, while excellent, is no better than the other excellent coalition surgeons??

 

Ethically, I respectfully disagree with the addition of Dr. Rassman to membership in the Coalition of Surgeons. Although, apparently Dr. Rassman is now a member of the Coalition as I saw him listed among the other members upon accessing the link so I suppose this is a moot point.

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Bank, Gorpy.........

 

And I thought I was the one accused of stirring up trouble?? icon_biggrin.gif

 

Seriously though, thanks for posting your take on the situation.

 

Bank, you and I disagree so rarely that I am shocked that I do in this instance!!!!

 

Anyway, I am inclined to agree with Gorpy, with regards to Dr. Rassmans inclusion into the Coalition. I honestly do not think the fee structure is unethical, per se, if people are willing to pay AND they are satisfied with the results

(Nothing I have heard about Dr. Rassman leads me to believe otherwise)

I can certainly understand that in California things can be inflated, and I think a little of that may have crept in to Dr. Rassmans pricing.

 

Consider that when we look at Rose, Shapiro, Berstein, we see Dr's focused on what is BEST for each individual patient, and not necessarily what is in vogue at the time. Maybe Dr. Rassman instilled a bit of this during his time with them.

 

I think we have to ask ourselves a question:

Is the Coalition better or worse with Dr. Rassman?

 

Regardless of our feelings about fee's, I think it is better.

 

Just my opinion, as always

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Dr. Rassman,

 

This message is primarily directed to Dr. Rassman, however, I invite any and all respected members of the community to read and continue to share their thoughts. I want to make clear that I do NOT intend this maliciously or to pick a fight, though I do make strong statements and ask bold questions. Whether or not Dr. Rassman wants to indulge me is his choice of course...but I stand firm in my opinion on this.

 

Thank you for contributing your thoughts into the discussion and defending your position. I have high respect for you as a seemingly outstanding and accomplished skilled surgeon and am glad to see you here.

 

That being said, allow me to give you some constructive criticism...since you have taken it well so far...perhaps you will get the message. I have to stand firm with hairbank and other members who are strongly against your high prices. I want to make clear that the quality of your work, I believe, is all agreed upon by all members...you do world class work.

 

The bottom line the way I see it is this: Patients today can go to ANY surgeon in the world, many of which can yield the same quality product as you can for half the price. The fact that you trained other top surgeons does put a notch in your belt as one of the founders of modern day hair transplantation and you have obviously helped pioneer things the way they are today. However, I strongly question why you charge MUCH more money when other founding fathers and pioneer doctors with equal skill charge half the price. Other big names like Hasson and Wong charge $4.50 a graft up to 2000 grafts and $2.50 per additional graft. Considering you charge more than double that, my 3701 graft transplant with Dr. Hasson that cost slightly over $13000 would have been over $26000 with you. Most people can hardly afford $13000 let alone $26000. I'm on the fence whether I'd pin this as a matter of ethics...but from your post:

 

"I don't think most of you realize that I have trained some of the better hair transplant surgeons around..."

 

 

And

 

"I have patients who fly in from around the world to see me and I have done surgery on heads of state, movie stars, prominent business leaders, royalty, as well as ??common' folk like the rest of us"

 

 

Since your post was designed to defend your pricing, I think it's pretty safe to assume that these comments were related. So one must look at the underlying statements in your words to make a determination of ethics. Your underlying statement from my first quote seems to be "Look at all the outstanding work that I did...therefore I deserve more money". Your second underlying statement seems to be "I can get away with charging more because people still come to see me..." with a twist of "I'm famous because I've had famous people in my chair". There is truth in these underlying beliefs. You HAVE accomplished much and have done oustanding work. And yes, you do have people coming to you apparently, no matter how much you charge. These are true. These underlying beliefs, however, definately make a strong case that your ethics are an issue here. Please note, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I think further clarification needs to be made why you charge twice as much as other well respected top docs. Do you think you are better than they are? This is not meant to be a malicious question...it's an honest question. Why should a patient choose you and not another coalition doctor?

 

Furthermore, all of what you said about yourself can also be said about Hasson and Wong, Shaprio, etc. Though I have no proof that movie stars went to any or all of them...but all of the rest can be said.

 

Follicular Unit Grafts vs Sub Follicular Unit grafts has been a debate on and off on this forum as to what the best method is...but I'm still under the belief that it's 6 in one half, a dozen in the other. I know it's not exactly that simple...but what I look for as a patient is the end result. Dr. Hasson has been said to do some sub follicular grafting, however, out of the results that have been posted by hundred of patients over the years, the majority have been outstanding. I would say the same thing about some other top doctors like Ron Shapiro who supposedly does straight follicular unit grafting with some double unit grafting thrown in there in a few patients. Two different philosophies, but both producing great end results. In other words...the end product in both philosophies can definately yield positive results. The proof is in the pudding!!!

 

That being said...you are the only doctor (that I know of) that's charging as much as you do. I stand firm with Hairbank that as long as I'm here, I would not recommend people go to you when they can go to other equally efficient doctors and get the same results at a significantly lower price.

 

Heh...so any chance we've convinced you to lower your prices? I think most likely, when all is said and done, we can all agree to disagree...and I'm sure your business will not suffer either way, whether or not people like me don't recommend you because of your pricing. But to me it does appear morally questionable, especially if you don't disclaim to new naive patients that walk in your door that other doctors charge significantly less AND many of them are equally skilled.

 

I think it's important to look at this from the perspective of a consumer regarding all types of products. If you were in the market for a car...would you buy the same exact car, assuming they are both new with no defects, etc from the dealer that is charging $18000 or the one that is charging $36000? This probably sounds ridiculous because it would be unheard of to find this type of price difference in a new car. Likewise, it is just as ridiculous for the same quality product of hair transplantation to charge twice as much for it as other top quality doctors in the industry.

 

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B-spot,

 

The one problem with the below statement that I see is that it is very possible that some patients coming into his office will not be aware that there are other doctors that are just as high quality that charge half the price. To me, whether purposeful or not, this is a type of deceit...just as bad as other marketing companies marketing minoxodil in other forms and charging 4 times the price (though it's obvious in THAT case, the decieit is purposeful). Unless there is some disclaimer (not just on this website) but in his office, in the paperwork or verbal consults, it can be argued as deceit. I'm not saying that there should be no responsibility on the patient to do proper research...but you know as well as I do that people make emotional decisions and may not take the proper time. I believe doctor's who are supposed to be the ethical professionals should take the time to explain to patients, ALL the facts before they move forward, including that their fees are well above normal.

 

Regarding inclusion into the coalition, I'm on the fence. If I had a say in the matter, I'd say no, because to me, there is a question about ethics regarding such high pricing...almost like gouging simply because he can get away with it, simply because he still gets patients. Kind of like gas prices! :P (attempt at humor). However, if he is admitted into the coalition, I will not attest to it...I will just simply make sure perspective patients of his on this forum are aware that even though he is a top rate physician, his prices are well overpriced and there are other equally skilled physicians with strong reputations that can do their HT. That way, it's up to the completely INFORMED patient to make their own decision.

 

I am not anti-Rassman. I'm only Pro-Information!!!!!!!

 

Anyway, I am inclined to agree with Gorpy, with regards to Dr. Rassmans inclusion into the Coalition. I honestly do not think the fee structure is unethical, per se, if people are willing to pay AND they are satisfied with the results
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Hey Bill!!!!! Man, those are some GREAT posts, my friend..........!

 

My point during all of this is that anytime someone mentions going to Dr. Rassman, one of us, or other vets will be there to drive home the point of pricing. Dr. Rassman is not going to wake up tomorrow innundated with patients from here, either. For those that think I am attaching an unfair stigma on Dr. Rassmans fee's, DON'T!

I castigated Dr. Konier for charging a FLAT 5.00 per graft, regardless of session size and everytime his name is mentioned, I say what a great Doc he is, but understand that you can go elsewhere to some of the best in the world for a much lower price.

That is the corollary I am using when these two physicians are discussed.

 

COMPLETELY understand everyone's positions here.

Still think the Coalition is stronger with Dr. Rassmans inclusion.

Know for a fact that one of us will inform others and allow them to make the right decision for them.

After we give a prospective patient the information and they chose to see Dr. Rassman, then that is their right.

We feel the same about the 22 year old who goes to Armani, right?

 

Keep spreading the hair love boys!

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Hey B-Spot!

 

Thanks for replying my friend. We both seem to agree that price is an issue, however, I think where we disagree (and that's ok icon_biggrin.gif) is whether or not there is an issue of ethics at hand here. I am leaning toward a "yes" in the issue of ethics UNLESS there is some kind of broadcast on this forum AND by Dr. Rassman himself to every patient that he deals with, stating that he charges much more than most equally qualified doctors.

 

We feel the same about the 22 year old who goes to Armani, right?

 

Ah...fine point my friend....but Dr. Armani is not part of the coalition for his lack of ethics now is he? icon_wink.gif

 

Oh and...HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!!!!

 

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I would agree with you, perhaps as a gesture of good faith, for the added benefit of being included in the coalition and the subsequent increase in prospective clients, perhaps Dr. Rassman could extend the courtesy of a discount to more reasonable levels to those that were led to him through this forum. I would be interested in hearing a response from Dr. Rassman on this.

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some of us would like to believe we are the doctors, or the scientist. pricing is market, simple economics. if i were a doctor i would not ever post on this site, and i believe the way that we debate the doctors positions here gets us less and less of doctors inputs. they simply dont want to be harrassed by a mob. no body wants to discuss thier lively hoods, thier

ethics, thier reasons to do things on a public

message board. flip the perspective for a second and you can easily see what i mean.

 

he charges the prices he does becuase a) he is in Los Angeles b) he is in high demand c) becuase he can. its not a matter of ethics, its a matter of economy. this debate in my opinion is dead.

 

i always thought that not including this dr, and some others in a way compromises the quality of this site. i am in favor of Rassman just simply because he is a valuable asset.

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he charges the prices he does becuase a) he is in Los Angeles b) he is in high demand c) becuase he can. its not a matter of ethics, its a matter of economy. this debate in my opinion is dead.

 

Something,

 

You clearly take the stand that pricing shouldn't be a determination for membership...and that is fine if that is your stand. However, to say the debate is dead is silly. Are you saying that you don't understand the points many of us made above for the other side of the argument? I'm willing to admit that Dr. Rassman clearly has the skill to be included in the membership, however, there are actually several debates here and I think they are all valid and important to discuss.

 

Debate 1: Should pricing be a consideration regarding membership into the coalition? If yes...what considerations? If no...why not?

 

Debate 2: Reasons for Dr. Rassman charging over twice as much for the same quality of service (QoS) of other top doctors in the world? Only Dr. Rassman can REALLY address this without speculation

 

Debate 3: Are his reasons justifiable or unethical? This must be determined by the members of this forum, or more importantly by educated perspective patients

 

Your points regarding your speculation about his pricing and my comments

 

a) he is in Los Angeles

 

Since people obviously fly from all over the world to see him (Dr. Rassman's own words)...it matters more the location of the patients, not the doctor. This doesn't seem like a justifyable reason to charge double

 

b) he is in high demand

 

So are many other top doctors in the world. People fly from all over to see other coalition doctors too, but you don't see them inflating his prices.

 

c) Because he can

 

This is a cop out AND possibly exploitation. Many doctors obviously CAN charge what they want, but charging a much higher rate benefits the doctor and not the patient in any way. This can be exploitation if the patient is not given all the information up front. If a patient knowingly chooses to pay Dr. Rassman twice as much for an HT because they have much faith in his ability...that's the patient's choice. However if a patient goes in blindly about the going rate of HTs and has an hair transplant with Dr. Rassman, even if they are satisfied with the results, the patient was still exploited in my opinion since he wasn't given all the facts up front. It should be the responsibility of the doctor to inform the patient up front that there are other equally skilled physicians in the world that charge half the price.

 

I will close again with this...I am NOT anti Dr. Rassman, only Pro Information!

 

My solutions to the above would be one of the following:

 

A) Dr. Rassman lowers his prices (all problems solved)

B) Dr. Rassman keeps his price the same, but it's posted clearly on the coalition membership page as well as by Dr. Rassman himself to all patients that he charges more than double the competitive price.

 

Solution A is the best in my opinion...because solution B would still make forum veterans warn new uneducated perspective patients that he is overpriced and there are other top doctors that can yield the same results at a much cheaper price.

 

Can anyone tell that I have strong opinions about this? icon_wink.gif

 

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As a SoCal resident, I think it's important to point out that ungodly amounts of money are spent in this region every day by those who can only be deemed as "beyond wealthy"... eight figures a year and higher. For those, paying twice the going rate is of little concern. It's a lot easier to drive 15-30 minutes from Belair or Manhattan Beach to have the procedure than it is to get on a plane for two to four hours.

 

Now I realize that the rest of us wouldn't be inclined to do that (me especially!), and I'm certainly not advocating Dr. Rassman's rates. However, his credentials and location have landed him right in the middle of one of the richest areas on the planet! So are his rates ethical?.. I don't know. I do know however that for some, price can become secondary to convenience.

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Good debate..........I have enjoyed reading the different prospectives on quailty, price, ethics and other points mentioned.

 

As many times before....we will not always agree on an issue. As I have mentioned, in no way do I question Dr. Rassman's surgical skills. Bluntly, I do question his ethics.

 

There shouldn't be a HT surgeon in the world who should fear posting on this forum IF he delivers quality surgical results at a fair price to the consumer. What should he fear? As for Dr. Rassman's pricing being due to his California location..............maybe so. However, I was one of those who opted for a 4-hour flight for my 2nd HT (flight & hotel paid for by clinic) so is location really an issue anymore for HT's.....I think not.

 

In my opinion, we have to take a step back and look at the purpose of this site. What do we do here? From my prospective, we are here as counselors to those looking to do something about their hair loss. I digress to my earlier post regarding ethics............can we ethically recommend someone charging MORE THAN twice the price charged by surgeons who are equal in skill and ability to deliver excellent results?

 

Bill's analogy above regarding vast pricing difference for the same car hits the mark. Put it in these terms, you could go to the majority of the coalition surgeons and receive 4000 grafts for $13,000 (2000 grafts x $4.50 per + 2000 grafts x $2.00 per). If you opted for Dr. Rassman, you could receive EXACTLY the same number of grafts for $26,800 (1800 grafts x $10.00 per + 2200 grafts x $4.00 per).............this is a difference of $13,600 for the SAME QUALITY hair transplant.

 

I suppose it just comes down to personal opinion. The team of Coaltion Surgeons at HTN,

before the addition of Dr. Rassman, earned their membership based on skill. However, there were all competitively priced.........the only exception being Dr. Konior who charged $.50 more per graft versus his colleagues. We all have our preference whether it be due to it being the surgeon we chose and had great results, or those who are known to have a particular skill (i.e. Doc Wong with the crown, Doc Shapiro with hairlines......list goes on). What is Dr. Rassman ADDING to the coalition? Surgical skill EQUAL to the others....Yes. Ability to perform and deliver excellent results.....Yes. A quality product at a fair price as determined by EQUAL competitors..........no way.

 

Again........it's Pat's call as to whether or not we will continue to list Dr. Rassman as a Coalition member. I would remove him if it were up to me. If not, I do believe Bill's post regarding Dr. Rassman's pricing being more than double the others should be listed as a disclaimer. Otherwise, there could be those who come here and take the sites recommendation for Dr. Rassman and get their HT from him at his current pricing. Do you think they'd be a little stoked at us once they realize they've paid more than twice what they would have paid for the same thing elsewhere?

 

Regardless of Pat's decision, I have a heart to help those suffering with hair loss and will continue to do my best to assist.

 

Thanks to all for a great debate............nice to know we can ALL contribute and post what we feel is truth for a particular situation. No matter where you all land, I think we all have the same intention.......maintaining the site's integrity!

 

Sheesh........I gotta quit......I'm to tired from all the Turkey and Dressing yesterday!

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I appreciate everyones valuable input. I'm working with Dr. Rassman to work out a possible solution that will satisfy the concerns of this community. Stay tuned.

 

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Appreciate it, Pat!

 

I look forward to seeing your ultimate recommendation.

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3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong

 

GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS

 

current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day

 

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I appreciate everyone's valuable input regarding Dr. Rassman's involvement with our community. It's tough to come up with a solution that satisfies everyone but I think Dr. Rassman, his staff and I have come up with a solution that is close. Dr. Rassman has shown a great deal of flexibility in meeting the concerns expressed in this thread.

 

As many of you know, Dr. Rassman is a big believer in patient education and empowerment. His website at www.newhair.com and blog at www.baldingblog.com have been great in-depth and empowering patient resources, as is his book - "The Patient's Guide to Hair Restoration".

 

His belief in patient education and open information is one of the reasons why he wants to participate in our community as a member of the Coalition.

 

To support our community and forum he now prominently promotes them on the New Hair Institute website and on this popular balding blog.

 

Dr. Rassman has also offered to give those visiting our community special deep discounts.

 

He is willing to reduce his normal surgical fee of $10 per graft down to $6 per graft for those who are willing to do surgery in his Los Angeles office on a "Standby" basis and be called less than ten days prior to surgery.

 

For those who would like to schedule surgery with him more than ten days in advance he is willing to reduce his fee down to $8 per graft for surgery in his Los Angeles office. After 2,000 grafts all additional grafts will be charged at half rate. Travel reimbursement credits up to 5% of fees paid will still apply.

 

To qualify for these special discounts patients must refer to the "Coalition Special" when they initially contact the New Hair Institute's office.

 

I think such flexibility and generosity on Dr. Rassman and his staff's part is very commendable.

 

Based on his generous offer and support for our forum and community I believe that Dr. Rassman should take his rightful place as an elite member of the Coalition.

 

I hope that you will join me in welcoming him as a new Coalition member.

 

Thanks again for your input and influence in helping to achieve this positive outcome for those visiting our community.

 

Pat

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Pat...

 

So let's say on a sample 3500 graft procedure, like I recently underwent through Dr.Feller at a cost of $11,000,(though he threw in an additional 200 N/C) I would have to pay Dr.Rassman $16,500 for the privelege? Hope my math is correct. How about FUE procedures?

 

Sorry to be a ****buster.

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That is great news Pat!!!!!

 

While I still think that the pricing is a tad high, I am encouraged that Dr. Rassman feels that his involvement and addition to the Coalition is beneficial enough to lower his fee's.

 

I hope this news is met with openess and understanding.

 

Thank You Dr. Rassman and thanks Pat!!!!

 

GREAT JOB ALL!!!!!!

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Understandable Cousin, but lets give the Dr some respect for looking past pride and simple economics to meet our demands in the middle.

 

For those who live in the immediate area and can take short notice sessions or take advantage of the better pricing schedule, by the time you factor in travel it is not that bad, especially by So Cal standards.

 

I am happy that Dr. Rassman feels his membership here warrants lessening his fee's for our members.

 

Let's keep our minds open and see how this works out.

Go Cubs!

 

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Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians.

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