Regular Member endoftherope Posted October 5, 2006 Regular Member Share Posted October 5, 2006 I've been doing some research on Propecia and have been finding some disturbing stuff concerning the importance of DHT and the penis. It seems that DHT is the hormone that drives the penile spongy tissue (sinusoids) to grow, to repair and to erect. The penile size is determined by the DHT receptors and concentration in the spongy tissues and capillaries, the Acetylcholine/NO level in the penile parasympathetic nerves/endings, and cardiovascular pumping. When you inhibit DHT, your DHT receptors die, the DHT level in your penile tissues drops, or your parasympathetic nervous function produces insufficient Nitrus Oxide in the nervous endings of the arteries, and your penis shrinks. Any drugs which drop the DHT production in the penile tissues will weaken your erection and shrink your penis. Read the reviews Propecia has received on this site: http://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=20788&name=PROPECIA (by the way, this site is great to read before you take any drug) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member tkerr22 Posted October 5, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2006 have had no issues and been on for about 4 or so years. No complaints from the wife! My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mark H Posted October 5, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2006 You can get the same thing in a cold swimming pool, and it won't grow you any hair. mark h My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mark H Posted October 5, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2006 One of the problems with sites like "askapatient" is that most of the people who post their are going to be having problems, and there is a tremendous skew between what you read and reality. Want a broader example? Go to google, and type in "Bigfoot". You'll get at least 10 million hits. Try and find ONE site that even suggests that Bigfoot aren't real. The trouble is, that sane people aren't creating bigfoot sites, so taking your que from Internet sites you could ONLY conclude that Bigfoot are real. People on Propecia without issues aren't seeking out sites to declare that. Instead you're getting people with real issues, and probably a lot of others who merely think they have issues. How can you credit what you read? mark h My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member endoftherope Posted October 6, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 6, 2006 My information was not pulled from askapatient but actual scientific studies during both human trials and rat trials. Askapatient simply verified these findings in the real world (which is I why I posted the link). I always perfer to hear real world feedback. Give me a day or two and I will compile all my research and provide links to the information that is available online. My sources are credible. Really, it shouldn't be much of a surprise that finasteride shrinks the penil glands and the penis itself. One of the drug's original objectives is to help shrink the prostate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairHope Posted October 6, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 6, 2006 For some of us, thats a good thing, I was hoping to walk on two feet again. Dec. 2004 - 1938 Grafts via Strip Feb. 2009 - 1002 Grafts via FUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JakeVig Posted October 6, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 6, 2006 Originally posted by HairHope:For some of us, thats a good thing, I was hoping to walk on two feet again. ahhh just too funny! thanks :-) 1344 grafts with Ron Shapiro - June 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted October 7, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 7, 2006 My wife says it made mine bigger! ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JakeVig Posted October 7, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 7, 2006 Any drugs which drop the DHT production in the penile tissues will weaken your erection and shrink your penis. So does that mean that drugs that increase DHT will enlarge your penis? 1344 grafts with Ron Shapiro - June 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mark H Posted October 7, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 7, 2006 At last a cure for those annoying throbbers. mark h My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 I have been on Propecia for over 8 years now and I still have GREAT sex!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted October 22, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 22, 2006 I am horny all the time anyway so I can afford a loss in interest. No side effects with erection and size knock on (wood) . NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mark H Posted October 22, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 22, 2006 I'm 52 and on propecia. No problems here, I have great sex, especially the one in the Autumn. My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted October 23, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 23, 2006 Cmon Is this for real? I've been taking it since 98 or so without any side effects.. If shrinkage on your genitals was a viable sde effect Merk would print it to avoid being sued. This is a bit of a reach JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kamin Posted October 24, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2006 As I mentioned in a previous post, us men could probably get a lot more accomplished if we weren't so worried about our dicks all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted October 24, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2006 True But then we wouldnt be men ! JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Robert_ Posted November 7, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted November 7, 2006 Originally posted by Mark H:One of the problems with sites like "askapatient" is that most of the people who post their are going to be having problems, and there is a tremendous skew between what you read and reality. This is exactly right. That's why so many people on hair loss forums give Propecia a bad rap. Because the first place people run when they have a problem is the forums. That's not a bad thing at all, but it does offer a skewed perception at times. Generally, if everything is going well, a person doesn't think to post about it. BTW, I'm a young guy (28) and I have been on Avodart for 2 years now with no such side effects. Avodart inhibits both types of DHT, while Propecia only inhibits type II. -Robert ------------------------------ Check out the results of my surgical hair restoration performed by Dr. Jerry Cooley by visiting my Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mark H Posted November 7, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted November 7, 2006 Yes, try going to Healthboards.com if you can stomach it. They attract every kind of nut, and hypochondriac, and sensible discourse isn't even possible. I follow a number of health/cholesterol boards, and the desperate effort to cling to suedo science is pathetic. It is incredible how much people will BS themselves to justify eating a cheeseburger. Conversely, every drug on the market is a conspiracy between doctors and the big drug companies. mark My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted November 7, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted November 7, 2006 LMAO Guys!!!!! I swear to God sometimes this forum cracks me up. Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mark H Posted November 7, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted November 7, 2006 B spot, I crack myself up continuously, and the slices of baloney in my shoes even make me FEEL funny. mark My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mark H Posted November 7, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted November 7, 2006 Hey, can someone tell me how I can add an avatar? everyone seems to have one, and I can't see where to add it? My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Robert_ Posted November 8, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2006 Mark, Click on the "Go" button located near the top left of your screen. It has a little compass beside it. After you click on "Go," mouse over "Personal zone and click on "Profile" in the little menu that appears. Now click on "View/Edit Complete Profile" located over on the right. Scroll down to "Avatar/Picture URL" and click on "Edit" You can use one of the supplied avatars or upload your own from a URL or from your computer, as long as it is no larger than 60x60 pixels. -Robert ------------------------------ Check out the results of my surgical hair restoration performed by Dr. Jerry Cooley by visiting my Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Hi Mark...I actually posted a detailed response to you on this on another post...but I'll post it here again. Robert's post is good...but since I wrote a lot of detail, I figured it was worth posting again: Mark...you are my test subject with this Folligen stuff. Believe me, I hope it works for you! I might try it after my HT grows in....I'm just going to follow the advice of my doc and not use it while healing. LOL on the avatar. It's pretty easy to add one that's built-in...a little more techy to add one of your own. Let me see if I can post the instructions for you: 1. At the top of this page on the left hand corner, click "Go" then "personal zone" then "profile". They will act as drop down boxes and you will have to click on "profile" 2. On the right hand side of your profile, click "View/Edit Complete Profile" 3. Scroll down until you see "Avatar / Picture URL:" and choose the option there (I don't know if it's "Add" or "Edit" - Mine says edit but I'm thinking that's because I have one there already" 4. A popup box will come up. You can either choose one of the ones listed or add your own. If you are putting up your own you have to choose "Custom Avatar", otherwise just click on the one you want. You can click "next" to continue scrolling through avatars and click on the one you want. 5. After you've selected your avatar...click the "Select this one" button. 6. Click on the "Close" button to close the window 7. On your profile page, scroll down to the bottom and click "submit". That should do the trick. I didn't post all the instructions for adding your own avatar. If you are going to add your own, you will have to find a photo on your computer and resize it to 60 X 60 pixels. then you can follow the above instructions and upload your own following the on-screen instructions that I didn't include. I hope this helps Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted November 8, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2006 You don't get an avatar Mark!!!!!!!! HA! LOL!!!!! Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member wesley949 Posted November 9, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted November 9, 2006 With regard to propecia shrinking your penis, I believe I have lost about three inches of erect penis lenght, which amounts to about an inch a year. When I get down to 9 inches next year, I may consider cutting back to half a pill a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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