Keeping Personal Insults Off Our Forum - Respect is Required

[PLEASE GROW PLEASE]

Hahaha but as long as its not these two Im straight. I think I can handle myself.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTtYVXbdW08

[balody]

pgp,keep it passionate!

[hopefull]

Originally posted by TheEmperor:

Alot of dirt being kicked up for no good reason, which may scare people away, especially once they have chosen. Dr. Wong has never been known to make any foolish choices and has shown many fantastic transformations of high norwoods, Jotronic included.

 

Going through with the operation is a huge emotional and financial investment and people need encouragement.

 

Once someone has put a deposit on (say) a new Mercedes, and is awaiting its delivery from the factory, you dont start posting links to consumer reports showing all the flaws with the model. You post encouragement for a decision well made.

 

There is a time and a place, and a proper manner. Kicking up dirt, and questioning one's choice (especially given it is Wong), really has no place. There are tactful ways to handle concerns like these without inciting riots in the forums. Perhaps real concerns can be aired privately without as much dramatic effect.

 

none is kicking up dirt thats all in your head. And noone created a riot...unless u think that to police opinions like the moderator of another site its the way to go. Its another thing what this thread was created about and you are taking it somewhere else.

 

real concerns for me dont have to go privately because this forum wouldnt need to exist and we could all PM each other...and maybe that way you could give your opinion to me privately so that we could avoided the so called drama that you describe...still you didnt

 

anyway you made your point and i totally disagree with it so wont take it into ccount

[lost my swagger]

Now i just want to say because i geard about PGP that once i had a big fight with him and he honestly started creeping me out but i am smart enough to understand when someone offers a lot to this community. Even then... i wouldnt change PGP for 100 smooth talking posters. But thats just me and this place needs everyone to respect everybody and talk an a civil manner.

 

 

bingo!!... i wouldnt trade you either hopefull

[cactus]

Originally posted by lost my swagger:

Exactly! If a friend of mine said he did his research and scheduled a surgery with one of the top-5 doctors in the industry, I would not post pictures of NW-7 and try to scare him with "what if" questions. I would not question the integrity of the doctor he chose.

 

i could not disagree with you more.........

 

there are people like myself who feel that ASKING QUESTIONS are the only way to get true answers... hopeful did not post this to scare drew he posted it because he felt its something drew REALLY needs to consider... and drew is better for it if you ask me...

 

with all due respect, i feel as though you see things backwards man...

 

hopeful wishes the best for drew i TRULY believe this and he said so himself.. infact he cares so much about a total stranger he takes time to inform him of risks that you dont seem to believe exist as long as he chooses a "top 5er"......

 

i know you may not want to hear this but patients have been BOTH hurt and helped by their decision to have a HT, EVEN THOSE CHOOSING THE BEST THE BUSINESS HAS TO OFFER.. their stories can be found on here aswell.. it may be a scary thing for some to accept but that does not change the FACT that it is real, and should be considered... with a decision such as this that is so very LIFE CHANGING one does not need encouragment my friend... they need ANSWERS.. REAL ANSWERS.... the encouragment comes after they have taken the leap

 

some people buy into the cherrypicked results

some have seen enough to know that they are exactly that.

 

some people help by trying to inform

some people help by saying 'good luck slugger'

 

personally if i came here to ACTUALLY LEARN i dont need ecouragement NEAR as much as i need facts...... even if those facts are scary.... im a big boy so i could handle it..infact, id be thankful

 

 

Well said LMS

 

Alot of us who visit this site sometimes really need to here the truth. Because at the end of it the clinic could advise all the solutions possible to get a HT but in some situations what if getting a HT just is not suitable.

[wantego]

It looks like people are confusing 2 different things in my opinion. The point is not to avoid the truth or facts. What would be gained by that? The point is to avoid personal insults and attacks. I consider myself a very honest person. Honesty is great. Personal attacks are not. There is no reason a person can not speak the truth without insulting or attacking other posters.

 

For example:

I have seen some patients of Dr. XYZ and they were not happy with their results. I looked at the pictures and many of his patients had poor responses.

 

Is different than,

 

I have spoken to a bunch of patients of Dr. XYZ and they were not happy with their results. You are a freaking idiot for even considering him and I hope you end up looking like the clown that you are.

 

This is the last I will say on this subject. I think Bill did a very good thing making this thread. The past is the past. This is not to punish somebody for the past. It is to make things better for the future. 99% of us came to the board for the same reason. Considering we share this hair problem we should be on the same side not at each others throats.

[Bill - Seemiller]

Wantego is right.

 

I would never ask patient members of this community to withold the truth or their genuine opinions and concerns. All I'm asking is that members do it respectfully.

 

On another note, members should ALSO be prepared to have their opinions challenged and be realy to substantiate their claims. We've seen plenty of clinics and businesses make promises they can never keep.

 

The members of our community have done a great job challenging the marketing hype of clinics and businesses selling snake oil products. However, just as clinics and businesses are held accountable for their claims, so must patient members of our community.

 

Therefore, members should be prepared to have their opinions and claims challenged at all times. As the moderator, I may enforce that you substantiate your claim that may be considered harmful to someone else's reputation.

 

A difference of opinion is fine, but opinions with no supporting evidence (especially when it's harmful to someone else whether it be a clinic or a patient) may be removed and the above 3 strike rule may be followed.

 

Pesenting knowingly false information to present and defend your case simply because you don't want to admit your wrong is not acceptable in this community.

 

That's why it's listed in our terms of service:

 

"You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this software service to post any material which is of a commercial or promotional nature, knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this BB."

 

In summary, share your genuine experiences, opinions, and concerns - but do it respectfully and be prepared to substantiate your claims if asked.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[PLEASE GROW PLEASE]

Pesenting knowingly false information to present and defend your case simply because you don't want to admit your wrong is not acceptable in this community.

 

I agree but who provided false information because they were wrong.

I dont remember hearing about that.

Unless you talking about in the future

[Bill - Seemiller]

Please Grow Plese,

 

The above and this whole thread is to remind members of the rules, past, present, and future. It's not targeted at anyone specifically, but it applies to everyone.

 

Thanks for asking,

 

Bill

[Speegs]

Originally posted by irish-2008:

Must be the recession affecting everyones mood

A double meaning to that one, well played.

[sherrybalesteros]

You are very right in reinstating the laws of your moderated community Bill. Why some people are so aggressive and hot-headed I don't know, but we have to practice being respectful and courteous at all times online or offline.

[Sparky]

I hope everyone reads this thread, things have been getting out of hand at late. I think most of these arguements are caused by shills though.

[Bill - Seemiller]

Sparky,

 

I appreciate your post and reminder to members to be respectful towards others. However, everyone appears to be on their best behavior and encouraging one another.

 

I haven't seen any disrespectful posts on this forum recently. Is there a particular topic or post you are concerned about?

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[Sparky]

It isnt anything recent, or anything thats ongoing now, the threads that have annoyed/upset me in the past are to do with, The Hospital Group, and Neograft/Dr Bauman, we had so many shills coming on to defend these, some lesser informed HT candidates could of been convinced that they were good.

I personally had bad experiences with The Hospital Group. its very annoying when we discuss something, and we all seem to be in agreement with it, and then suddenly you get 7 new posters praising these places.

I dont want anyone to have to feel how i've felt about how I was treated.

[Bill - Seemiller]

Sparky,

 

I agree there was some unnecessary negativity on those threads. But thankfully, this is old news. Just remember that respect goes both ways. We can't always assume that just because someone is praising a clinic that they're a shill. However, I do understand and appreciate healthy skepticism.

 

All the Best,

 

Bill

[Sparky]

As I speak from experience I have a different view on the hospital group. Even if they are better now, it means they practised on me.

[Guest jacksoncris]

HI,

The main reason of hair fall is stress, hormonal changes, high fever several illness, thyroid disorders, iron deficiency

[darknight]

we are here to help each other

[JohnSheikh]

everyone should maintain calmness and ethics in discussions... RESPECT must be earned..

[SatyamHair]

I think he can ratchet up the intensity too much for the time and place and this should change, and I believe it will -- he'd be the first to admit it and if it had a negative effect on a patient's ability to be informed and make a decision he'd be the first to apologize.

[voxman]

I'm going to resurrect an older thread and add a non sequitur too!

[HairJo]

I've seen doctors being maligned and disrespected on this site many times by malicious people who don't even know certain doctors . I've seen certain people constantly stalking doctors and trying to ruin their reputations. I think you need to moderate and investigate certain people before their hurtful posts are posted . See if these posters have malicious intent like being paid to support certain doctors and rag on others if people are going to make vicious statements they should come forward with their real names and concerns if they are genuine or have a real problem with a doctor. Why not call the doctor directly and say their piece. Anyone can make things up show us proof of what people are saying investigate. I'm sure some people are being paid to steer people towards their doctor and knock other doctors. This forum should be about the truth knot hear say from some paid person or out right crazy person . Moderate to help potential clients and protect good doctors . Stop letting garbage information get on the sites . Valid patients with valid results we can see and judge for ourselves . Not babble from people who just want to malign doctors they know nothing about . You can't give a review of a movie if you haven't watched the movie.