temples/front line

[duchaine]

Hi,
I had my first HT at HLC in Jen 2020.
I'm happy with the end result but...I could be happier!
I was very conservative when I got my first HT and now I would like to lower my HL/temples.
Was thinking something between 1000/1500 UF. 

 

Can you help me to choose  the best docs in the world. _Not a good doctors but real artists of the hairline.
My first choice is Couto, but the waiting list is too long. My second choice is Ferreira, same thing.
I saw some nice works from Custodio. what do you think about him?

PS Cyclically, I have  very strong telone effluvium, so my hair don't look always the same: they  look great at their best (usually during summer) and average at their worse  (usually autumn).
pics attached

[jjalay]

Most of the good doctors, artists, have a little bit of a long waiting list. In your place i would wait a little bit longer to go with dr. couto. Other options for great hairline work is dr. Konior in chicago and dr. munib ahmad in netherlnds, but they are both really priecey and i mean PRICEY. Othe roptions is bruno pinto in portugal, and Raphael de freitas in Spain.

As i said i think if you are planning to get another hairtransplant your first choice with couto is great and definitely worth it to wait in order to have surgery with him.

[Gatsby]

Dr Sethi is excellent at hairline and temple points.

[duchaine]

@Gatsby
@Melvin- Admin
how many FU do you think I do need to lower my HL?
It should be 1 cm.
This time I will pray the doc not to go among pre-existing hairs. From what I see, it is a waste of grafts because it doesn't make any big difference in terms of aestethic and the risk to damage pre-existing hair is very high.
 

Edited November 7, 2023 by duchaine

[Gatsby]

Which surgeon are you going with?

[duchaine]

2 hours ago, Gatsby said:

Which surgeon are you going with?

I'm trying to have my HT with Custodio.
I like his work when he designs a more rounded hairline.

[Doron Harati]

Round shape hairline will be best, you'll may need to do the peaks a bit aggressive to achive homogenous result with 300+ grafts each side.

[duchaine]

3 hours ago, Doron Harati said:

Round shape hairline will be best, you'll may need to do the peaks a bit aggressive to achive homogenous result with 300+ grafts each side.

I am just scared to go on temporal peaks, because the 90% of results are quite poor!
For the Hl (as I designed it) do you think that 100/1500 can be enough?

[Melvin- Admin]

15 hours ago, duchaine said:

@Gatsby
@Melvin- Admin
how many FU do you think I do need to lower my HL?
It should be 1 cm.
This time I will pray the doc not to go among pre-existing hairs. From what I see, it is a waste of grafts because it doesn't make any big difference in terms of aestethic and the risk to damage pre-existing hair is very high.
 

Looks like 2,000-2,500 grafts. You want high density.

[Doron Harati]

3 hours ago, duchaine said:

I am just scared to go on temporal peaks, because the 90% of results are quite poor!
For the Hl (as I designed it) do you think that 100/1500 can be enough?

You'll need for sure more than 1500 grafts, you need to create very high density to lower the current hairline, because you also need to add density to the current hairline (which is good btw), but you still need to add grafts so the new hairline result will be homogenous, more like 2000-2500 grafts job.

With peaks we are very selective which candidate is suitable, it depends on many properties, the bad results are usually done with multigrafts, but in peaks you place single grafts to give the best natural result as possible.

If you interested in round shape hairline you're welcome to contact my WhatsApp, you can see many results in our Instagram.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Doron Harati

[duchaine]

6 hours ago, Doron Harati said:

You'll need for sure more than 1500 grafts, you need to create very high density to lower the current hairline, because you also need to add density to the current hairline (which is good btw), but you still need to add grafts so the new hairline result will be homogenous, more like 2000-2500 grafts job.

With peaks we are very selective which candidate is suitable, it depends on many properties, the bad results are usually done with multigrafts, but in peaks you place single grafts to give the best natural result as possible.

If you interested in round shape hairline you're welcome to contact my WhatsApp, you can see many results in our Instagram.

Thanks for your reply.
The peak are very hard for the surgeon. I think it is not only a matter of multi grafts. the real problems are the angles and the directions of the hair. To add hairs at the peak, you need to go perpendicular to the floor and with an angle almost =0°. 

I just saw your IG page and I have a question...maybe it is a stupid question so I apologize in advance.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckk41o4K-u5/

If this guy used only 3400 grafts to cover a such bald area....how is it possible that I need more than half of what he used just to lower HL?
 

Edited November 8, 2023 by duchaine

[Doron Harati]

6 hours ago, duchaine said:

Thanks for your reply.
The peak are very hard for the surgeon. I think it is not only a matter of multi grafts. the real problems are the angles and the directions of the hair. To add hairs at the peak, you need to go perpendicular to the floor and with an angle almost =0°. 

I just saw your IG page and I have a question...maybe it is a stupid question so I apologize in advance.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckk41o4K-u5/

If this guy used only 3400 grafts to cover a such bald area....how is it possible that I need more than half of what he used just to lower HL?
 

Yes you're correct, besides the single grafts the doctor must create the correct hair angles, even by doing this all correct the growth appearance may look a but synthetic compare the top scalp, so we diagnose it carefully before suggesting peaks job, before the consultation we ask for measurements to see it's suitable.

The clinic is very experienced with temporal peaks jobs, one our staff teams had a procedure 10 years ago with a sustainable result.

This patient didn't needed more than 3200 grafts, he has very thick grafts more than average with combination of flat and very low hairline than the average, it's optimum result of both idealistic thick black hair donor and very low flat hairline with narrow scalp.

[duchaine]

1 hour ago, Doron Harati said:

Yes you're correct, besides the single grafts the doctor must create the correct hair angles, even by doing this all correct the growth appearance may look a but synthetic compare the top scalp, so we diagnose it carefully before suggesting peaks job, before the consultation we ask for measurements to see it's suitable.

The clinic is very experienced with temporal peaks jobs, one our staff teams had a procedure 10 years ago with a sustainable result.

This patient didn't needed more than 3200 grafts, he has very thick grafts more than average with combination of flat and very low hairline than the average, it's optimum result of both idealistic thick black hair donor and very low flat hairline with narrow scalp.

Thank you!

[duchaine]

On 11/7/2023 at 6:46 PM, Melvin- Admin said:

Looks like 2,000-2,500 grafts. You want high density.

I tried some math.
Let say that surface is 38/40 cm2, so I need 2000 if I go for 50 FU/cm2.

Is a such high density needed?
And more important: what is the surviving rate at 50 FU?
At Hlc the sold me 50 FU/cm but I do not have more than 30 at the moment.
 

[Melvin- Admin]

7 minutes ago, duchaine said:

I tried some math.
Let say that surface is 38/40 cm2, so I need 2000 if I go for 50 FU/cm2.

Is a such high density needed?
And more important: what is the surviving rate at 50 FU?
At Hlc the sold me 50 FU/cm but I do not have more than 30 at the moment.
 

Generally, you don’t want lower than 45 grafts per cm2 in the frontal hairline. Otherwise, it will be see through in harsh lighting. I would say 2,000 is a good number and will leave you with an excellent result. 1,500 is acceptable but may be see through in some lighting.

[duchaine]

I had my first contact with @Dr. Espinosa Custodio.
He is amazing. I can say that it is the best online consultation I've ever had.
Hope he will take me as his patient.

[Stakk]

On 11/15/2023 at 12:56 AM, duchaine said:

I had my first contact with @Dr. Espinosa Custodio.
He is amazing. I can say that it is the best online consultation I've ever had.
Hope he will take me as his patient.

 

Are you comfortable going with Dr Espinosa even though there is very little known patient feedback on him?

 

 

[duchaine]

5 hours ago, Stakk said:

 

Are you comfortable going with Dr Espinosa even though there is very little known patient feedback on him?

 

 

I had a consultation with him but we didn't close the deal.

[Stakk]

20 minutes ago, duchaine said:

I had a consultation with him but we didn't close the deal.

Reason I ask is that I am considering using him too. 

So he hasn't decided on taking you as a patient yet?

[duchaine]

9 minutes ago, Stakk said:

Reason I ask is that I am considering using him too. 

So he hasn't decided on taking you as a patient yet?

 

 I needed an earlier surgery
 

[Stakk]

What is his waiting time for surgery? 

[duchaine]

4 months