Senior Member BurnieBurns Posted January 16, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted January 16, 2023 I've been battling with side effects from finasteride both oral and topical finasteride/dutasteride for the better part of 5 years. Even microdoses of the liquid formulations result in side effects which has been beyond frustrating. Having recently had a hair transplant megasession with Dr Jerry Wong, I'm hellbent on trying out anything anything I can to target DHT. Unfortunately, I cannot recieve the XYON formula because I am based all the way in New Zealand and we have no indication of when they can offer their services internationally. I have, however, recently spoken to Shapiro Medical and may be able to order the Farmacia Parati Liposomal version through them. Does anyone have experience this formula that previously had sides? If so, which medication/ concentration, etc Would be grateful for any responses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted January 17, 2023 Administrators Share Posted January 17, 2023 It really is a shame they can’t send it worldwide yet. I thought the Farmacia Parati was also filling Xyon. I could be wrong. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member arthurSam Posted January 17, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted January 17, 2023 21 hours ago, BurnieBurns said: I've been battling with side effects from finasteride both oral and topical finasteride/dutasteride for the better part of 5 years. Even microdoses of the liquid formulations result in side effects which has been beyond frustrating. Having recently had a hair transplant megasession with Dr Jerry Wong, I'm hellbent on trying out anything anything I can to target DHT. Unfortunately, I cannot recieve the XYON formula because I am based all the way in New Zealand and we have no indication of when they can offer their services internationally. I have, however, recently spoken to Shapiro Medical and may be able to order the Farmacia Parati Liposomal version through them. Does anyone have experience this formula that previously had sides? If so, which medication/ concentration, etc Would be grateful for any responses. What sides effects ? I used 0.01% fin with trichosol all was OK for 4 month and now I got balanitis (penile hurting). Minoxidil : 5% topical 1ml/day Follicular androgen receptor inhibitor : {Fluridil + CosmeRNA} Exosome Mesotherapy 1mm (See here for explanations & results) : ASCE+ HRLV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member z4ydi Posted January 17, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted January 17, 2023 21 hours ago, BurnieBurns said: I've been battling with side effects from finasteride both oral and topical finasteride/dutasteride for the better part of 5 years. Even microdoses of the liquid formulations result in side effects which has been beyond frustrating. Having recently had a hair transplant megasession with Dr Jerry Wong, I'm hellbent on trying out anything anything I can to target DHT. Unfortunately, I cannot recieve the XYON formula because I am based all the way in New Zealand and we have no indication of when they can offer their services internationally. I have, however, recently spoken to Shapiro Medical and may be able to order the Farmacia Parati Liposomal version through them. Does anyone have experience this formula that previously had sides? If so, which medication/ concentration, etc Would be grateful for any responses. I can understand that you had side effects with the oral Finastride, but what side effects did you have with the topical Finastride, can you please elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BurnieBurns Posted January 17, 2023 Author Senior Member Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said: It really is a shame they can’t send it worldwide yet. I thought the Farmacia Parati was also filling Xyon. I could be wrong. I have had correspondence with Xyon and they'll contact me when they announce their plans. Crossing my fingers for Farmacia Parati's tried and true liposomal meanwhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BurnieBurns Posted January 17, 2023 Author Senior Member Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, z4ydi said: I can understand that you had side effects with the oral Finastride, but what side effects did you have with the topical Finastride, can you please elaborate? Low libido, ED, mild depression. Any side effect from oral you can also get from topical Edited January 17, 2023 by BurnieBurns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BurnieBurns Posted January 17, 2023 Author Senior Member Share Posted January 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, arthurSam said: What sides effects ? I used 0.01% fin with trichosol all was OK for 4 month and now I got balanitis (penile hurting). Low libido, ED, mild depression. I tried 0.025% trichosol and got the same sides. From extensive research, the Parati formula is the only other vehicle besides Xyon scientifically proven to reduce systemic exposure to a very small amount. A majority of topicals out there cause a lot of systemic absorption. Most of people using them are doing so out of fear of side effects rather than having had them so likely would have been fine with oral anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member arthurSam Posted January 18, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Yes I saw same things I just order liposomal finasteride 0.01% gel from parati... They make 30ml with 4xpress=1ml or 100ml with 2xpress=1ml. I dont know if I can apply Minoxidil foam before or after... I just ask it to them. They work with university of Milan so I wonder if there is a reseach paper somewhere with test results to get an idea of the properties of the vehicule (amount of fina which go to systemic & to hair folicule) .. ? I only found this : https://baldingblog.com/the-use-of-topical-finasteride-with-minoxidil-produces-remarkable-results-in-a-study-on-300-male-patients-with-genetic-balding/ Wait & see ! 🙂 Edited January 18, 2023 by arthurSam Minoxidil : 5% topical 1ml/day Follicular androgen receptor inhibitor : {Fluridil + CosmeRNA} Exosome Mesotherapy 1mm (See here for explanations & results) : ASCE+ HRLV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MachoVato Posted January 20, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted January 20, 2023 Many things can cause low libido and ED. You need to get a blood test and check your testosterone, estradiol and prolactin levels. Topical fin doesn't go to your stomach or liver where it goes systemic. It's generally considered very side effect safe. There are other compounds that can help if you want to avoid fin. There's a pharmacy local to me that compounds some solutions, like: Minoxidil 3%, Melatonin 0.2%, and Latanoprost 0.01% HLC Ankara | 4261 Grafts | Nov 7, 2020 (Hairline) Dr. Bisanga, BHR Clinic in Brussels | 1528 Grafts | Aug 12, 2021 (Crown and Temples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ALittelTeal Posted January 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted January 22, 2023 Would love to hear if anyone that got sides on oral fin has switched to one of these topical formulations and found a dosage for them to be tolerable. Feel free to share links to other threads if I'm missing them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member EricLaurent Posted January 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted January 24, 2023 I have question about the vehicule used by parati : As it is a liposomal gel, is the concentration of fina wich go to follicule will be the same as if the vehicule is trichosol or PG ? For exemple, if someone use a 0.01% finasteride with trichosol, is the liposomal gel need to be 0.01% or more ? FUT 6500 hairs in France - Paul Benet (Paris) - 1 year update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Heisenberg Posted April 23, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted April 23, 2023 Does anyone have the website address or contact details for Farmacia Parati? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted April 24, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 13 hours ago, Heisenberg said: Does anyone have the website address or contact details for Farmacia Parati? google that and yoi should find it, they have insta too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted April 24, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted April 24, 2023 Has anyone had luck ordering from Farmacia Parati? I have contacted them many times but I have never heard back from them? 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BurnieBurns Posted April 24, 2023 Author Senior Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, Gatsby said: Has anyone had luck ordering from Farmacia Parati? I have contacted them many times but I have never heard back from them? Was this to <info@farmaciaparati.it>? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Heisenberg Posted April 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 4 hours ago, mr_peanutbutter said: google that and yoi should find it, they have insta too I take it this is the link: Removed link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 24, 2023 Administrators Share Posted April 24, 2023 How about you guys private message @arthurSam he used farmacia Parati recently. He should be able to help. 1 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Heisenberg Posted April 25, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted April 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said: How about you guys private message @arthurSam he used farmacia Parati recently. He should be able to help. I can't send any private messages. Any idea why that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 25, 2023 Administrators Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: I can't send any private messages. Any idea why that is? You have to reach 10 posts before you can pm, it’s to prevent spamming. Comment three more times and you’ll be able to send pms. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member arthurSam Posted April 25, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Heisenberg said: I can't send any private messages. Any idea why that is? Hello the mail for parati is info@farmaciaparati.it They reply in about 1-2 day. After the order is validated they send a payment link in about 1 week (time for preparation). Edited April 25, 2023 by arthurSam Minoxidil : 5% topical 1ml/day Follicular androgen receptor inhibitor : {Fluridil + CosmeRNA} Exosome Mesotherapy 1mm (See here for explanations & results) : ASCE+ HRLV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Sunset Dune Posted April 25, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 hours ago, arthurSam said: Hello the mail for parati is info@farmaciaparati.it They reply in about 1-2 day. After the order is validated they send a payment link in about 1 week (time for preparation). Your signature caught my attention, so you tried XYONs topical dutasteride and still got sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 25, 2023 Administrators Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Sunset Dune said: Your signature caught my attention, so you tried XYONs topical dutasteride and still got sides? He tried Farmacia Parati. It is a similar formula. Xyon isn’t in Europe yet. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member arthurSam Posted April 25, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Sunset Dune said: Your signature caught my attention, so you tried XYONs topical dutasteride and still got sides? Yes but I got sides with everything so... Minoxidil : 5% topical 1ml/day Follicular androgen receptor inhibitor : {Fluridil + CosmeRNA} Exosome Mesotherapy 1mm (See here for explanations & results) : ASCE+ HRLV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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