Any Martin Maag patients?

[NeedMoreHair]

23 hours ago, Gatsby said:

Completely agree. A first time poster coming out to support a person who has done jail time??? 🤔

You are completely ignorant about activist prosecutors and how they rack up convictions to pad their record. Look the whole life story before you make any judgements. There is nothing wrong with defending a man who has done right to his patients for his entire life. 

[NeedMoreHair]

On 11/28/2022 at 5:55 PM, Pbaird98 said:

So many red flags the more I read and see here. 😞

What specifically is a red flag to you? Don't judge anything by that post by wallaby on reddit, he is a pathetic power tripping liar. 

[NeedMoreHair]

23 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Can you share a detailed review with pictures? Otherwise, this appears to be very suspicious to the community. Two new users registered to defend a surgeon. 
 

If you’re indeed a patient. I look forward to seeing your detailed review.
 

 

I have posted my review. People are obviously misinformed by the post on reddit, created by a liar. Look at the whole story and the lives changes by Dr Martin Maag. 

[Legend007]

I made a reservation 10 years in the future , just in case.

So I can lock in the rates. Gotta grab the opportunity when it’s available in life..

 

[Pbaird98]

@NeedMoreHairLevel with us here, are you Martin Maag? Otherwise it’s not at all usual for someone to be on the defensive so much for a Dr, with the pics you posted it’s just the beginning of a journey. I’m not impressed by the other guys result thread and mentioned why within it, it’s too early to say anything much about the one you have posted. You need to see this from the existing members viewpoint here, a post is made mentioning a name and within no time whatsoever 2 members join up and post up 2 cases, neither are completed and so it’s difficult to make a call other than what’s In front of us, I have no care to mention or comment on a another mod from elsewhere, nobody here is mentioning him.

[SMPFUE]

32 minutes ago, Pbaird98 said:

@NeedMoreHairLevel with us here, are you Martin Maag? Otherwise it’s not at all usual for someone to be on the defensive so much for a Dr, with the pics you posted it’s just the beginning of a journey. I’m not impressed by the other guys result thread and mentioned why within it, it’s too early to say anything much about the one you have posted. You need to see this from the existing members viewpoint here, a post is made mentioning a name and within no time whatsoever 2 members join up and post up 2 cases, neither are completed and so it’s difficult to make a call other than what’s In front of us, I have no care to mention or comment on a another mod from elsewhere, nobody here is mentioning him.

To be fair, I’m at my 7 week mark and I am actually very knowledgeable about hair loss and transplants and nobody has impressive looking work at the 7 week mark. I also have an SMP which makes it incredibly hard to really tell what was done. Even using a normal mirror I had a hard time seeing some of the grafts because it blended in with the SMP, but when I use a magnifying mirror I can clearly see the grafts. So I already know that I’m wasting my time posting progress pictures until it’s all done because haters will find a reason to hate. He is likely defensive of Dr. Maag because it gets tiring when we ( his patients ) try to make a post about hair transplants and some idiot online responds with “BuT hE tRiEd To kilL sOmEonE wiTh HiS car” every time.

Edited November 30, 2022 by SMPFUE

[Pbaird98]

1 minute ago, SMPFUE said:

To be fair, I’m at my 7 week mark and I am actually very knowledgeable about hair loss and transplants and nobody has impressive looking work at the 7 week mark. I also have an SMP which makes it incredibly hard to really tell what was done. Even using a normal mirror I had a hard time seeing some of the grafts because it blended in with the SMP, but when I use a magnifying mirror I can clearly see the grafts. He is likely defensive of Dr. Maag because it gets tiring when we ( his patients ) try to make a post about hair transplants and some idiot online responds with “BuT hE tRiEd To kilL sOmEonE wiTh HiS car” every time.

 That’s the point though, nobody knows how this will end up, over praising a Dr when you’re results are unknown? No, by all means at the end of the journey yeh.

I know I picked up some parts of your early result already as it’s very clear it’s sub par work, and I’m sorry I needed to mention the issues but it’s Important not to just blindly praise as some others can do, striking the balance between being too critical and just the usual “yeh looks great” when it’s clearly not, I get that people might be defensive over those comments, but for the most part here we are just looking and commenting on the hair transplants we see in front of us.

[SMPFUE]

5 minutes ago, Pbaird98 said:

 That’s the point though, nobody knows how this will end up, over praising a Dr when you’re results are unknown? No, by all means at the end of the journey yeh.

I know I picked up some parts of your early result already as it’s very clear it’s sub par work, and I’m sorry I needed to mention the issues but it’s Important not to just blindly praise as some others can do, striking the balance between being too critical and just the usual “yeh looks great” when it’s clearly not, I get that people might be defensive over those comments, but for the most part here we are just looking and commenting on the hair transplants we see in front of us.

But your opinion of sub par work is absolutely unwarranted. You really didn’t give any meaningful feedback. You didn’t state why you thought it was sub par, just claimed that they took more grafts than they needed, without any realistic way of knowing this. It is easy to point out what looks like flaws in a transplant that is only 7 weeks old. If I had my work done by the best surgeon in the world and then lied and said it was Dr. Maag’s work you would crap all over it just because it is tied to Dr. Maag. I see other people post 3 months results and people are optimistic and tell them it looks great and to enjoy growing it out when it looks like absolute trash. So this makes it very obvious that my feedback isn’t about how it looks and is all about where I got it done.

Edited November 30, 2022 by SMPFUE

[NeedMoreHair]

48 minutes ago, Pbaird98 said:

@NeedMoreHairLevel with us here, are you Martin Maag? Otherwise it’s not at all usual for someone to be on the defensive so much for a Dr, with the pics you posted it’s just the beginning of a journey. I’m not impressed by the other guys result thread and mentioned why within it, it’s too early to say anything much about the one you have posted. You need to see this from the existing members viewpoint here, a post is made mentioning a name and within no time whatsoever 2 members join up and post up 2 cases, neither are completed and so it’s difficult to make a call other than what’s In front of us, I have no care to mention or comment on a another mod from elsewhere, nobody here is mentioning him.

Of course I'm not Dr Martin Maag! I don't care, if I see misinformation, I correct it. Don't like it? Tough! And I'm sorry but are you a hair transplant specialist? You have no qualifications to question a doctors work. Sit down and wait for the results to appear. 

[NeedMoreHair]

22 minutes ago, SMPFUE said:

To be fair, I’m at my 7 week mark and I am actually very knowledgeable about hair loss and transplants and nobody has impressive looking work at the 7 week mark. I also have an SMP which makes it incredibly hard to really tell what was done. Even using a normal mirror I had a hard time seeing some of the grafts because it blended in with the SMP, but when I use a magnifying mirror I can clearly see the grafts. So I already know that I’m wasting my time posting progress pictures until it’s all done because haters will find a reason to hate. He is likely defensive of Dr. Maag because it gets tiring when we ( his patients ) try to make a post about hair transplants and some idiot online responds with “BuT hE tRiEd To kilL sOmEonE wiTh HiS car” every time.

Exactly and if we say anything we're the bad guys?!?

[Pbaird98]

Just now, SMPFUE said:

But your opinion of sub par work is absolutely unwarranted. You really didn’t give any meaningful feedback. You didn’t state why you thought it was sub par, just claimed that they took more grafts than they needed, without any realistic way of knowing this. It is easy to point out what looks like flaws in a transplant that is only 7 weeks old. If I had my work done by the best surgeon in the world and then lied and said it was Dr. Maag’s work you would crap all over it just because it is tied to Dr. Maag. I see other people post 3 months results and people are optimistic and tell turn it looks great and to enjoy growing it out when it looks like absolute trash. So this makes it very obvious that my feedback isn’t about how it looks and is all about where I got it done.

I can give you a explanation and it’s very much warranted, we veered off the discussion and were speaking about the SMP which you also admitted was poor work and didn’t end up at all like you was expecting.

And no that’s incorrect actually, I will call out and work that looks like it has issues, doesn’t matter if its H&W, Eugenix or Dr Konior. Literally every single Dr/Clinic on the planet will have poorer results, all we can comment on is what we see. I have 15+ years of experience of looking at results, here and on other forums, I wish you all the best and hope it does grow out fine. The graft count that’s been Implanted is all too clear to guesstimate, let others here also approximate it. 
I was careful in asking as it’s never my intention to offend or worry a patient, but at the same time a forum and it’s members need to be able to be able to voice and have a opinion on what they see, by all means it’s fine obviously to have yours too. 

[Pbaird98]

4 minutes ago, NeedMoreHair said:

Of course I'm not Dr Martin Maag! I don't care, if I see misinformation, I correct it. Don't like it? Tough! And I'm sorry but are you a hair transplant specialist? You have no qualifications to question a doctors work. Sit down and wait for the results to appear. 

Lol let’s face it we are both anonymous posters on a hair loss forum 😂 we know nothing of each other 👍🏿

[Melvin- Admin]

4 minutes ago, NeedMoreHair said:

Of course I'm not Dr Martin Maag! I don't care, if I see misinformation, I correct it. Don't like it? Tough! And I'm sorry but are you a hair transplant specialist? You have no qualifications to question a doctors work. Sit down and wait for the results to appear. 

If you really aren’t Martin Maag, you’re doing the opposite by vehemently defending him here. It only makes you look suspicious and makes him look worse. Do him and yourself a favor and just drop it.

[NeedMoreHair]

15 minutes ago, Pbaird98 said:

 That’s the point though, nobody knows how this will end up, over praising a Dr when you’re results are unknown? No, by all means at the end of the journey yeh.

I know I picked up some parts of your early result already as it’s very clear it’s sub par work, and I’m sorry I needed to mention the issues but it’s Important not to just blindly praise as some others can do, striking the balance between being too critical and just the usual “yeh looks great” when it’s clearly not, I get that people might be defensive over those comments, but for the most part here we are just looking and commenting on the hair transplants we see in front of us.

You can not fully judge until the 1 year mark, But I can praise that Dr Martin Maag and his staff were professional and knowledgeable, and gave me the full focus of their attention. And I'm sorry but you are not a doctor, you have no qualifications to judge a doctor's work. Sit down because you are way in over your head. 

[SMPFUE]

Just now, Pbaird98 said:

I can give you a explanation and it’s very much warranted, we veered off the discussion and were speaking about the SMP which you also admitted was poor work and didn’t end up at all like you was expecting.

And no that’s incorrect actually, I will call out and work that looks like it has issues, doesn’t matter if its H&W, Eugenix or Dr Konior. Literally every single Dr/Clinic on the planet will have poorer results, all we can comment on is what we see. I have 15+ years of experience of looking at results, here and on other forums, I wish you all the best and hope it does grow out fine. The graft count that’s been Implanted is all too clear to guesstimate, let others here also approximate it. 
I was careful in asking as it’s never my intention to offend or worry a patient, but at the same time a forum and it’s members need to be able to be able to voice and have a opinion on what they see, by all means it’s fine obviously to have yours too. 

This is what ruins a lot of these types of forums… people who actually say stuff like  “I have 15+ years of experience” but the experience is just looking at pictures and judging. In that case I have about 15 years of experience myself and in my 15 years of looking over 100s of transplants, I can confidently say anyone that calls a transplant sub par by looking at the 7 week results is being biased. I’ve never seen results at 7 weeks and was able to confidently say if it would turn out good or not. The armchair hair transplant surgeons online gets so old so fast. 

[SMPFUE]

4 minutes ago, NeedMoreHair said:

You can not fully judge until the 1 year mark, But I can praise that Dr Martin Maag and his staff were professional and knowledgeable, and gave me the full focus of their attention. And I'm sorry but you are not a doctor, you have no qualifications to judge a doctor's work. Sit down because you are way in over your head. 

This is the part they don’t understand. We had the experience with Dr. Maag, They didn’t. Yet they are judging based on if they are the authority of what is a good or bad transplant based off a few pictures and their biases rather than technical knowledge that an actual expert in the field would have.

Edited November 30, 2022 by SMPFUE

[NeedMoreHair]

5 minutes ago, Pbaird98 said:

I can give you a explanation and it’s very much warranted, we veered off the discussion and were speaking about the SMP which you also admitted was poor work and didn’t end up at all like you was expecting.

And no that’s incorrect actually, I will call out and work that looks like it has issues, doesn’t matter if its H&W, Eugenix or Dr Konior. Literally every single Dr/Clinic on the planet will have poorer results, all we can comment on is what we see. I have 15+ years of experience of looking at results, here and on other forums, I wish you all the best and hope it does grow out fine. The graft count that’s been Implanted is all too clear to guesstimate, let others here also approximate it. 
I was careful in asking as it’s never my intention to offend or worry a patient, but at the same time a forum and it’s members need to be able to be able to voice and have a opinion on what they see, by all means it’s fine obviously to have yours too. 

Quite frankly your 15 years don't matter. Are you a medical doctor? Have you completed a residency? Do you have a fellowship? Saves lives with the skills gained from countless research and work? My guess is a big fat nope. 

[Melvin- Admin]

1 minute ago, NeedMoreHair said:

Quite frankly your 15 years don't matter. Are you a medical doctor? Have you completed a residency? Do you have a fellowship? Saves lives with the skills gained from countless research and work? My guess is a big fat nope. 

I warned you already about the posts that are being reported. Frankly, anyone that posts like this and reacts this defensive comes off as suspicious. I gave you ample time to stop, but you chose not too.

As a result, I’m banning you for a month. If you return I suggest focusing on sharing your results, not defending doctors. At the end of the day, that’s all that matters. A doctor could be the nicest person in the world, but if the results aren’t good then it doesn’t matter. Frankly, the best way to shut anyone up is by showing excellent results. 

[Pbaird98]

3 minutes ago, NeedMoreHair said:

Quite frankly your 15 years don't matter. Are you a medical doctor? Have you completed a residency? Do you have a fellowship? Saves lives with the skills gained from countless research and work? My guess is a big fat nope. 

I said 15 years of “looking” at results, which on a forum about hair loss is all you can have really, yes I have experience, no I don’t need to flaunt it, yes I have had my own hair transplants, but my opinion is just that, absolutely no need to take it if you don’t want too. A forum is where we discuss hair loss, and comment on threads, this is what is expected to happen. No need to get in to heated debates when opinions are stated, this is not some echo chamber though, expect to be challenged if needed. 

[Pbaird98]

11 minutes ago, SMPFUE said:

This is the part they don’t understand. We had the experience with Dr. Maag, They didn’t. Yet they are judging based on if they are the authority of what is a good or bad transplant based off a few pictures and their biases rather than technical knowledge that an actual expert in the field would have.

People come here and ask for comments that is expected on a hair loss forum, members have all kinds of experience and are here to learn and share, this can be done in an constructive manner. I was very careful in how I commented on you’re thread, you absolutely don’t even need to take anything I say onboard or course, it’s just a opinion. I have no wish to get in any back and forth. I actually thought we was fine when last discussing the SMP. Anyway I wish you all the best. 🤜🏿

[Legend007]

Well I hope my rates are still locked in with  dr. Maag even though need more hair got  banned.

 

[SMPFUE]

1 hour ago, Pbaird98 said:

People come here and ask for comments that is expected on a hair loss forum, members have all kinds of experience and are here to learn and share, this can be done in an constructive manner. I was very careful in how I commented on you’re thread, you absolutely don’t even need to take anything I say onboard or course, it’s just a opinion. I have no wish to get in any back and forth. I actually thought we was fine when last discussing the SMP. Anyway I wish you all the best. 🤜🏿

The thing is, there are three types of people who typically hang out around these types of forums. There are the people who truly enjoy helping other people, those who are looking for peer support, and those who have ego issues so they look for a fix. The people who offer the most help are typically the group that truly want to help and the ego issue person because they are looking to buff up their ego. When someone looks like they are the ego person, which is how you come across, I really want nothing to do with it. The reason I say you come off that way is because you post in a way where you are more focused on letting me know how knowledgeable you are instead of giving actually valuable feedback. You said it looked like they took a bunch of grafts and didn’t insert them, I asked how many grafts do you think they extracted, and you let me know how you have 15 years of experience looking at pictures. You don’t give feedback on people’s pictures, you advertise your knowledge. This is the field I am an actual expert in, psychology. When I see patterns I get a feel for people pretty fast, and you have patterns. You actually remind me of wallaby from Reddit. Not saying you are him, but you both have the same ego thing going on. He has his because he is a mod in a popular subreddit. I believe yours is because you’ve been struggling with hair loss for a long time, which is an ego blow to most people, but you found a place that accepts you (here) and the longer you’ve been here the more “acceptance” you get and you tie your acceptance to your feedback, so you feel the need to comment regardless of if your content is a high quality feedback or a sht post. Truth is, with my SMP Any knowledgeable person would understand that they cannot give valuable feedback on the early stages of a hair transplant through pictures because the SMP, even a sub par one, hides a lot of the indicators of a good or bad hair transplant. It is impossible to see how many grafts were placed based on the pictures I took. I didn’t even use the front high MP camera because those were just pictures I was taking for myself. When I looked at some when I was taking them I thought my crown was missed and I asked my girlfriend to check. She even said she could clearly see grafts there, but couldn’t get a good picture either. I had to look with a magnifying mirror and then I was able to see my coverage. So yea, long story short, your feedback is bad, it isn’t based on technical knowledge, and I’m assuming you are here to fix your ego rather than help people, and I’m not interested in that.

Edited November 30, 2022 by SMPFUE

[Pbaird98]

14 minutes ago, SMPFUE said:

The thing is, there are three types of people who typically hang out around these types of forums. There are the people who truly enjoy helping other people, those who are looking for peer support, and those who have ego issues so they look for a fix. The people who offer the most help are typically the group that truly want to help and the ego issue person because they are looking to buff up their ego. When someone looks like they are the ego person, which is how you come across, I really want nothing to do with it. The reason I say you come off that way is because you post in a way where you are more focused on letting me know how knowledgeable you are instead of giving actually valuable feedback. You said it looked like they took a bunch of grafts and didn’t insert them, I asked how many grafts do you think they extracted, and you let me know how you have 15 years of experience looking at pictures. You don’t give feedback on people’s pictures, you advertise your knowledge. This is the field I am an actual expert in, psychology. When I see patterns I get a feel for people pretty fast, and you have patterns. You actually remind me of wallaby from Reddit. Not saying you are him, but you both have the same ego thing going on. He has his because he is a mod in a popular subreddit. I believe yours is because you’ve been struggling with hair loss for a long time, which is an ego blow to most people, but you found a place that accepts you (here) and the longer you’ve been here the more “acceptance” you get and you tie your acceptance to your feedback, so you feel the need to comment regardless of if your content is a high quality feedback or a sht post. Truth is, with my SMP Any knowledgeable person would understand that they cannot give valuable feedback on the early stages of a hair transplant through pictures because the SMP, even a sub par one, hides a lot of the indicators of a good or bad hair transplant. It is impossible to see how many grafts were placed based on the pictures I took. I didn’t even use the front high MP camera because those were just pictures I was taking for myself. When I looked at some when I was taking them I thought my crown was missed and I asked my girlfriend to check. She even said she could clearly see grafts there, but couldn’t get a good picture either. I had to look with a magnifying mirror and then I was able to see my coverage. So yea, long story short, your feedback is bad, it isn’t based on technical knowledge, and I’m assuming you are here to fix your ego rather than help people, and I’m not interested in that.

Nope none of that is remotely true actually, like many here I just want to Help and assist people, this doesn’t involve a ego at all, and the only reason I said that was to show I’m basing my opinion after 15 years of looking at results and it’s the only time I have ever said it here, we all are dealing with various degrees or experiences of hair loss, this is why we are all on a hair loss forum. You’re going to have to look at the other comments too as it’s not really just one opinion, it’s many, and that is what is important, a collective opinion though is still just that.

Ignore my feedback by all means, we can just both move on, I said I don’t wish to have any back and forth, i just gave a opinion on what i could see, I said early on I don’t want to offend or cause concern. 

[SMPFUE]

52 minutes ago, Pbaird98 said:

Nope none of that is remotely true actually, like many here I just want to Help and assist people, this doesn’t involve a ego at all, and the only reason I said that was to show I’m basing my opinion after 15 years of looking at results and it’s the only time I have ever said it here, we all are dealing with various degrees or experiences of hair loss, this is why we are all on a hair loss forum. You’re going to have to look at the other comments too as it’s not really just one opinion, it’s many, and that is what is important, a collective opinion though is still just that.

Ignore my feedback by all means, we can just both move on, I said I don’t wish to have any back and forth, i just gave a opinion on what i could see, I said early on I don’t want to offend or cause concern. 

Even if the ego isn’t the reason behind why you give advice, the truth is you give bad feedback and you are quick to do it, which is enough of a red flag for me. You call my hair transplant sub par, yet you really can’t say why other than a subjective opinion that they extracted more than they implanted. And even that little bit of feedback that you gave is low quality and the type of feedback that I expect from someone who doesn’t really know how hair transplants work. 15 years of looking at pictures and getting a hair transplant yourself doesn’t make you an expert, and that mindset is what ruins a lot of these types of communities. For you to even make the statement you made in good faith, you would have needed much higher quality pictures than what I provided, and even then it would be hard because the SMP really hides a bunch of it. You made it clear that you were just looking to bash everything I had done, you even kept throwing in the “don’t mean to offend” again and again. Truth is, you aren’t as knowledgeable as you think you are. When you are making a post and you find yourself having to type “I don’t mean to offend” just go ahead and hold down the backspace until everything you typed before that is erased. You don’t have the knowledge to make the type of posts that you make. If I wasn’t knowledgeable in this stuff you reallly would have caused me to worry, but luckily this is not the first hair forum I’ve joined, I’ve been around a bunch since around 2007 when I first noticed my own hair issues. You give out feedback as if it is based on knowledge when it it based on opinion and then people literally echo chamber it, whether you are willing to admit it or not ( they basically did by saying “I’m going to echo what he said”. You didn’t give any actual feedback and then someone echoed the same feedback with again, not giving any actual feedback. 
 

I suggest you learn about SMP and hair transplants and get a better understanding of how they impact each other. HTs will make an SMP look awful in the early stages because the skin literally just went through a traumatic experience is going to scab and peel. SMP will make HTs harder to judge in early stages because the pigmentation hides the redness and makes grafts harder to notice because they blend in, especially with a lower quality camera. These are things I’ve known for years and now you can add it to your knowledge of 15 years of looking at pictures.

Edited November 30, 2022 by SMPFUE

[Pbaird98]

Right so you just want people to comment but only in a way you want them too? That is the definition of a echo chamber. I could have been blunt and that’s why I asked early on. Some people come on forums and can take all kinds of feedback, others make a post and withdraw it, or realise that it’s not actually good work and they were misled. If you came here and are posting members are going to giving all sorts os opinions based on there any own opinions/experiences etc, this is what any forum does. Nobody should take anyone’s opinion of they don’t want too, but if you post you have to be prepared for all kinds, and unless they have it in their signature they are just a lay person and carry no more validity than any other member. I asked if I upset you as I thought when we was originally discussing SMP we were both on the same page, and obviously that changed.