Regular Member hairlines Posted October 18, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 18, 2022 Hi, I am researching clinics to help as part of male to female gender transition. Being in New Zealand travel time, cost and safety are a concern so I am looking mostly towards Thailand. Any recommendations or experiences are appreciated, especially relating to transgender issues. Our local NZ and AU options do not seem to be well reviewed here. I'm expecting a very large amount of grafts needed and potentially multiple sessions. Given that I think it makes sense to look at someone with FUT as well as FUE specialties and have a long term plan. The primary goal is to get a presentable female hair style with longer hair. I'm already on finasteride and using minoxidil foam regularly for about a year, though HRT medication will replace some of that now. I have sent in the online consult form for a couple of surgeons recommended by the site, Dr. Damkerng Pathomvanich and Dr. Kongkiat Laorwong. I also sent a couple further afield for comparison. Thank you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted October 18, 2022 Valued Contributor Share Posted October 18, 2022 The two surgeons from Thailand are the only two in Thailand I would pick. I’m so glad you have not gone to anyone here in NZ/Aus. There is no one and I’ve been researching down under for the past 37 years. Are you able to post pics with your eyes/face blocked out so we can get a better idea of your hair loss? All the best. 👍 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted October 18, 2022 Valued Contributor Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, hairlines said: Hi, I am researching clinics to help as part of male to female gender transition. Being in New Zealand travel time, cost and safety are a concern so I am looking mostly towards Thailand. Any recommendations or experiences are appreciated, especially relating to transgender issues. Our local NZ and AU options do not seem to be well reviewed here. I'm expecting a very large amount of grafts needed and potentially multiple sessions. Given that I think it makes sense to look at someone with FUT as well as FUE specialties and have a long term plan. The primary goal is to get a presentable female hair style with longer hair. I'm already on finasteride and using minoxidil foam regularly for about a year, though HRT medication will replace some of that now. I have sent in the online consult form for a couple of surgeons recommended by the site, Dr. Damkerng Pathomvanich and Dr. Kongkiat Laorwong. I also sent a couple further afield for comparison. Thank you If the goal is to wear your hair long then FUT definitely sounds like a good first step for you. I'm also going to assume that currently or with more time, you're not going to have beard or chest hair resources to draw from in order to supplement FUE's so I'd very much recommend focusing on good FUT surgeons plus those with a body of work creating natural looking female hairlines (which differ in terms of angles and softness to male hairlines). The narrowness of those requirements may well mean you're best served by looking further afield than Asia, but certainly avoid NZ & Aus as your options there are notoriously limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 18, 2022 Administrators Share Posted October 18, 2022 I would say Thailand is the best place, what kind of medication treatment plan are you on to stop hair loss? I would recommend DUT+HRT+ oral spiro and oral minoxidil. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted October 18, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 18, 2022 Oh chest hair was never going to be much or a resource and the beard has had enough treatment already that it isn't very helpful either. Maybe if I'd done my research earlier I'd have looked at that but here we are. I've been on finasteride and using minoxidil foam for a year or so which has had some positive impact. Medication is all being moved around a bit a the moment so not exactly sure where I'll end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted October 18, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 18, 2022 Here are a couple of pictures (f you recognise me say hi some time, haha). Obviously loss is very far progressed on all of the top through to the crown, though I think I have a strong donor area to work with. There is a lot of work to do. From the research I've done a large FUT session to begin with, and expecting later rounds, sound like the way to go. I'm not expecting miracles here because time has done its damage, but hoping to get a hair style I can work with because it's a bit existential for me. Today there is little I can do other than shave it short. Thank you for all the comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted October 18, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 18, 2022 Note, I'm approx 40. I wish the world had been a better place and I was getting to this sooner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted October 18, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted October 18, 2022 maybe you will get some regrowth with estrogen etc my guess is that at least the crown will fill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted October 18, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 18, 2022 I hope so. It's hard to make out in the picture but there is some very fine hair about which came in over the last year. E can't hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BurnieBurns Posted October 18, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted October 18, 2022 There are some pretty insane regrowth cases in MTF transitioning. Definitely the right move to avoid Aus/NZ.. I got butchered by one here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted November 3, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 3, 2022 Currently looking at Dr Pathomvanichas top of my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member A Fue Good Men Posted November 4, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted November 4, 2022 Dr Path has been around for a long time and has some great results. With that being said, some of the best female hairline work I’ve seen is from Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted December 28, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 9:35 AM, 5BetaReductase said: Dr Path has been around for a long time and has some great results. With that being said, some of the best female hairline work I’ve seen is from Nadimi Cost for going to America is a little prohibitive unfortunately. Here are some notes from initial email consults: Quote From the photos, you have extensive area of hair loss from the front towards the crown. Your donor hair at the back and both sides look good .My rough estimate is you might need a few sessions to complete. For the first session, you might need 4,000 grafts, more or less, depending on the time of consultation. The grafts to be placed from the front towards the midscalp, or until running out of grafts. Quote Combination of FUT and FUE is done when a large number of grafts need to be removed. This will minimize the complications of each technique. I recommend that you go for a combination of FUE and FUT to gain more grafts in one session and to minimize the complications of each technique. These seem in track with my expectations. Can anyone tell me what the typical consultation process looks like from here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Fue3361 Posted December 28, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2022 IDK how long you've been on hormones, but if you've recently started, give it a year or so, see how you respond. Sometimes when people go on Estrogen they see ridiculous changes and hair regrowth. I'd not touch a Hair Transplant until at least knowing what I'm working with. Check out my journey here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted January 28, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 28, 2023 On 12/28/2022 at 10:41 PM, Fue3361 said: IDK how long you've been on hormones, but if you've recently started, give it a year or so, see how you respond. Sometimes when people go on Estrogen they see ridiculous changes and hair regrowth. I'd not touch a Hair Transplant until at least knowing what I'm working with. 6 months in, plus a year or so on fin / minoxidil. From my research I'm not expecting much more of a change on its own from here. It'll be April before I get overseas too so almost a year anyway I guess. We can always hope though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted January 28, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 28, 2023 It looks like I have a date set in April with Dr Path, thunderbirds are go! 🥳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted January 28, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 28, 2023 Does anyone else find it slightly odd to talk to a surgeon on a hotmail address though? It's the one listed on their website and we've done Zoom consult etc, but the email doesn't really say "professional" to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TorontoMan Posted January 28, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted January 28, 2023 If you’re taking hrt, then you should be waiting to see what it will do for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted January 29, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, TorontoMan said: If you’re taking hrt, then you should be waiting to see what it will do for you How long? We'd be 18 months on meds, and 9 months on HRT with current plan. I'll have a chat to the surgeon about it too. There is some noticeable recovery since starting this whole journey. It's hard for me to inspect higher up but some hairs have slowly come back in in the highlighted area. They are still very fine and short but are growing at least. There is not much going on off to the sides. This is a long road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mrmane85 Posted January 29, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) I'd look closely at Dr Laorwong. Excellent results on this forum, does FUT + FUE plus he is hands-on throughout the entire surgery. Edited January 29, 2023 by mrmane85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted January 29, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 6 hours ago, mrmane85 said: I'd look closely at I'd look at Dr Laorwong. Excellent results on this forum, does FUT + FUE plus he is hands-on throughout the entire surgery. Having a good review of his posts too... he has some nice hairlines to show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairlines Posted February 8, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 8, 2023 Booked and ready to go with Dr Laorwong!! VERY EXCITED. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mrmane85 Posted February 9, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted February 9, 2023 Congratulations, he is a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted February 9, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted February 9, 2023 Congratulations @hairlines. Recommended Thai surgeons on the forum will have a lot of experience from procedures carried out on the many transgender Thai people also I would imagine. Wishing you all the best! 👌 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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