2nd Transplant on a budget: Help me find the best clinic pls!

[Britanium]

1 minute ago, Chilifight said:

He just opens the channels nothing else. 

Also his clinic does 3 transplant a day. 

Is that OK? 

 

Why nobody talks about Doganay? Who persons only one surgery a day and so far has been the ONLY one that suggest the to split my surgery in two days to maximise results? 

 

 

Doganay is ok too, I  have seen his results for many years. But unless he’s involved in at least the incision step/channel opening then I would give it a swerve. 
Same could be said for Dr Erdogan (ASMED) he is available on the top tier package, again this is just the incisions step. 
AEK Dr K is another that operates the same set up. Very few Drs anywhere worldwide do much more than this step. But it is the important one.

[Britanium]

7 minutes ago, Chilifight said:

RE: rip ppl off. 

What i meant is that both Dr. Biçer and Eugenix where the ones that have estimated the highest nr of graft. Which surprised me considering their expertise 

I've reached out to many surgeons and no one estimated 4k grafts. 

Looking at your level of loss I would say that 3.5-4K is accurate, you will need 2.5-3k approx to rebuild the frontal third, and then they will work back In to the mid section. If you notice your first procedure wasn’t blended in with your existing hair, the post op pic shows a gap. 

Edited March 30, 2022 by J.A.C

[Chilifight]

1 minute ago, NARMAK said:

Firstly, there's no minimum budget for a "good transplant" and you could end up spending $100k or whatever your currency is going to "The best" and get a very poor result because there's no guarantee in hair transplants. Period. 

Good value is in the eye of the beholder and some might think you getting 4k grafts for circa €7K is actually good value when the same procedure for that many grafts might cost 2x as much in the USA. 

Ultimately everybody does work to a budget, but if the places that are recommended and good for your circumstances all seem expensive, perhaps the issue maybe is more to do with your expectations of pricing. The market charges what the demand creates and reputable clinics are aware their services will be paid for. So the question comes down to whether you feel like paying that money is worth it to you. 

At the end of the day, 4k grafts is not a small amount and messing that up by going to somewhere cheaper with sub standard outcomes will leave you behind a rock and a hard place wishing you had just bothered to save up more and go to somewhere better. 

I appreciate you takin time to reply. 

I disagree with you. 

I believe there must be a minium amount of money to get a good result. 

I though 5k would be it...

[JoeMan]

8 minutes ago, Chilifight said:

I appreciate you takin time to reply. 

I disagree with you. 

I believe there must be a minium amount of money to get a good result. 

I though 5k would be it...

Then spend 5k and let us know how it goes. The minimum is much less honestly. As long as you are willing to roll the dice. So you can likely get on much cheaper than 5k. You'll have money left for a hat if it doesn't work out lol

[Melvin- Admin]

41 minutes ago, JoeMan said:

Dr Biçer is bare minimum in my mind so now you know you budget. 7k. Dr Yaman might be forum recommended but I don't think he's consistently putting out good results. Look at @digi23 case for reference. 

I hardly think one case should define a surgeons entire portfolio, there was a poor case here from Dr. Ferreira, every surgeon has bad cases. I think the best thing to do is look up his name on the forum and search multiple reviews and threads, only then can you comment on the body of work.

The majority of Dr. Yaman’s cases are good. Now, it’s fair to say avoid doing temple points, until he can demonstrate more work, but the hairline and density is good, even Digi said his hairline was good and the density was good. Now, if the community can present several cases where the overall work is subpar, we can start to reconsider the recommendation. 

[JoeMan]

1 minute ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

I hardly think one case should define a surgeons entire portfolio, there was a poor case here from Dr. Ferreira, every surgeon has bad cases. I think the best thing to do is look up his name on the forum and search multiple reviews and threads, only then can you comment on the body of work.

The majority of Dr. Yaman’s cases are good. Now, it’s fair to say avoid doing temple points, until he can demonstrate more work, but the hairline and density is good, even Digi said his hairline was good and the density was good. Now, if the community can present several cases where we the overall work is subpar, we can start to reconsider the recommendation. 

Some questions were raised in that thread that were never addressed. Easy questions. If a Dr doesn't have the proper equipment, which was questioned by another forum recommended Dr, then I think people should be aware. It was a simple question that was glossed over several times. Then the fact that you yourself seem to question if he's trending towards a hair mill style. Then his response about Covid. Not once was an reasonable reason given for that case. All of this is fine, but then people can and will speculate that he doesn't have the equipment. I wouldn't trust him with my hair. 

Personally, I don't think he's a top Dr and I don't think it's wrong for me to say so. We all have opinions and if you feel he's one of the best in Turkey then that's your opinion. 

The case from Dr. Ferreira at least had a valid response from what seemed to be a caring Dr. Not some blab about Covid and lowering prices.

When Eugenix had a case recently, they had a valid response as well. 

[NARMAK]

40 minutes ago, Chilifight said:

I appreciate you takin time to reply. 

I disagree with you. 

I believe there must be a minium amount of money to get a good result. 

I though 5k would be it...

The "minimum" amount isn't the only criteria you need to be using. You need to check what the Dr involvement is, their experience and previous as well as recent results etc. 

I'll repeat again that you need to realise that going "cheap" or for the "minimum to get a good result" usually is going give you more bad options than good. 

I've personally chosen Eugenix because they are usually very good with temple points and i need mine entirely reconstructed. However if i only needed the frontal hairline, there's significantly more reputable clinics i could have considered. 

Who you look for is more than just about budget, but their ability to best meet your specific hair transplant objectives. 

You tried cheap, it didn't work out great and others have already said to you that if you just are going to insist on the money you'll more than likely get the same result. 

We are here to try and help people, but you need to be willing to maybe accept that your current outlook is wrong in regards to pricing. 

I personally would rather save up for an extra 12-24 months to get a better outcome for the next 25+ years and stick to medication like Finasteride etc. than go to a cheaper place, wreck my donor and get screwed for life. 

I've also been wanting a hair transplant since my early 20s and only now in my early 30s do i actually feel like i've scraped enough knowledge together to try educate myself about hair loss and hair transplants and even then, i still feel like there's so much more to know. 

However, i would still rather be in my position than somebody who has been for multiple procedures and not learned their lessons. 

[Chilifight]

11 minutes ago, NARMAK said:

The "minimum" amount isn't the only criteria you need to be using. You need to check what the Dr involvement is, their experience and previous as well as recent results etc. 

I'll repeat again that you need to realise that going "cheap" or for the "" usually is going give you more bad options than good. 

I've personally chosen Eugenix because they are usually very good with temple points and i need mine entirely reconstructed. However if i only needed the frontal hairline, there's significantly more reputable clinics i could have considered. 

Who you look for is more than just about budget, but their ability to best meet your specific hair transplant objectives. 

You tried cheap, it didn't work out great and others have already said to you that if you just are going to insist on the money you'll more than likely get the same result. 

We are here to try and help people, but you need to be willing to maybe accept that your current outlook is wrong in regards to pricing. 

I personally would rather save up for an extra 12-24 months to get a better outcome for the next 25+ years and stick to medication like Finasteride etc. than go to a cheaper place, wreck my donor and get screwed for life. 

I've also been wanting a hair transplant since my early 20s and only now in my early 30s do i actually feel like i've scraped enough knowledge together to try educate myself about hair loss and hair transplants and even then, i still feel like there's so much more to know. 

However, i would still rather be in my position than somebody who has been for multiple procedures and not learned their lessons. 

Seems like you're not getting my point. 

You make it sound like I'm focusing on money only which I'm not, otherwise i wouldn't be here in the first place. 

 

That does not change the fact that there must be a "minimum to get a good result" 

Of course i am takin in consideration Dr. Involvement & reputation. 

 

I just though 5k would be enough to get this sorted... Seems like i need to put my kidney up to sell on ebay tho

 

Eugenix has a package with technicians only and yet you still adore it. 

Are eugenix techn smarter than the Avg tech? Hehe he 

 

Edited March 31, 2022 by Chilifight

[JoeMan]

4 minutes ago, Chilifight said:

Seems like you're not getting my point. 

You make it sound like I'm focusing on money only which I'm not, otherwise i wouldn't be here in the first place. 

 

That does not change the fact that there must be a "minimum to get a good result" 

Of course i am takin in consideration Dr. Involvement & reputation. 

 

I just though 5k would be enough to get this sorted... Seems like i need to put my kidney up to sell on ebay tho

 

Eugenix has a package with technicians only and yet you still adore it. 

Are eugenix techn smarter than the Avg tech? Hehe he 

 

Look, it sounds like you are not listening and getting our point. Do research, pick a Dr you are comfortable with that has a high probability of success. That's how much it will cost. As with all things in life, you get what you pay for. Your level of risk may be higher than mine, which seems to be the case since you are trending for another hair mill. This means your minimum amount is different from mine as well. It's all subjective. 

As for Eugenix, I don't think I'd get their cheapest package either so I'm not sure who said they had the best technicians. 

In the end, it's your head and your decision to make. We can only give our opinions, which we have several times and you basically repeat the same question. 

[NARMAK]

11 minutes ago, Chilifight said:

Seems like you're not getting my point. 

You make it sound like I'm focusing on money only which I'm not, otherwise i wouldn't be here in the first place. 

 

That does not change the fact that there must be a "minimum to get a good result" 

Of course i am takin in consideration Dr. Involvement & reputation. 

 

I just though 5k would be enough to get this sorted... Seems like i need to put my kidney up to sell on ebay tho

 

Eugenix has a package with technicians only and yet you still adore it. 

Are eugenix techn smarter than the Avg tech? Hehe he 

 

You say you're not focusing on money and then go back immediately to talking about a "minimum cost". 

If i turn around and say €7-10k is that going to change everything you keep saying? 

Regarding Eugenix, every package they have even at 75 RS involves doctors. The cheapest package they have is with their junior technicians and doctors who are trained to a certain level and then allowed to operate it seems and the doctors/techs after they have proven themselves over multiple years and patients will become senior and be advanced to the Exclusive Package. 

The doctor is responsible for the hairline designs and 100% of the slit making. With some negotiating maybe even some crucial extractions could be agreed. However, the technicians will do the majority of the implantation and extraction and what usually separates good technicians is in their training and not just how many patients they worked on. A hair mill for example could have a tech working on hundreds of patients per year but they have little training and tools to be able to properly dissect hair grafts, know to place singles etc. and just mess things up. 

I don't even know where you got your information from that Eugenix have a technician only package. 

[Britanium]

36 minutes ago, Chilifight said:

Eugenix has a package with technicians only 

Actually every single tier is led by a Dr who is also involved in the procedure, so even the lower packages are not tech driven. See this:

Edited March 31, 2022 by J.A.C

[Britanium]

We have seen some very good results from Dr Priya for example, she works with the lower packages.. 👍🏽

[Gatsby]

If you’ve had one budget focused hair transplant that you weren’t happy with then why have another? 🤔

[Chilifight]

2 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

If you’ve had one budget focused hair transplant that you weren’t happy with then why have another? 🤔

Jesus. Nobody is getting my point. 

I wouldn't be here if money was the only thing that matter to me no? 

 

 

 

[Chilifight]

9 minutes ago, J.A.C said:

We have seen some very good results from Dr Priya for example, she works with the lower packages.. 👍🏽

Thanks, I'll check her out. 

This one right Dr. Krishna Priya

[Chilifight]

12 minutes ago, J.A.C said:

Actually every single tier is led by a Dr who is also involved in the procedure, so even the lower packages are not tech driven. See this:

My bad. I though Eugenix trained Dr was a nice way to say technician. 

[Britanium]

1 minute ago, Chilifight said:

My bad. I though Eugenix trained Dr was a nice way to say technician. 

Nope a Dr is a Dr…👍🏽 it’s Dr priyadarshini das 👌

[Gatsby]

If this is indeed your first post, you’re coming on kind of strong don’t you think? This forum is based on a brother/sisterhood of helping and supporting one other. Serious friendships have been forged here over the years. If you’re not happy with the answers thus far, then perhaps you need to revisit your question? We are only trying to support you from the information that you have provided, from your posted topic and subsequent information.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Gatsby

[MachoVato]

I'll try. Your limit is €5k and you need 4k grafts and you want the doctor to do the procedure.

Only one doctor comes to mind. Dr. Gur. 16 years experience, does traditional FUE, performs extractions and channel openings, only one patient per day. Charges €1.25/graft.

Dr. Turan would be a quality alternative. He charges €4k for a 2-day procedure. Overs 20 years experience, uses an extraction specialist but the doctor does the channel openings.

Good luck!

 

[Chilifight]

1 minute ago, MachoVato said:

I'll try. Your limit is €5k and you need 4k grafts and you want the doctor to do the procedure.

Only one doctor comes to mind. Dr. Gur. 16 years experience, does traditional FUE, performs extractions and channel openings, only one patient per day. Charges €1.25/graft.

Dr. Turan would be a quality alternative. He charges €4k for a 2-day procedure. Overs 20 years experience, uses an extraction specialist but the doctor does the channel openings.

Good luck!

 

That's exactly the type of answer I was hoping for! 

Thanks a lot I'll check them out

[Chilifight]

13 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

If this is indeed your first post, you’re coming on kind of strong don’t you think? This forum is based on a brother/sisterhood of helping and supporting one other. Serious friendships have been forged here over the years. If you’re not happy with the answers thus far, then perhaps you need to revisit your question? We are only trying to support you from the information that you have provided, from your posted topic and subsequent information.

Apologies I didn't mean to come across rude. I do appreciate everyone advice and replies to my question. 

I though my question was very simple. 

Where can I get a good yet affordable hair transplant with 5k?

Yess I do care about Dr involvement (that why I am here so i can get good advice from you) 

No I don't wanna rely on hair mills

I though 5k is a decent budget... Perhaps I'm wrong. 

@MachoVatoprovided  the kind of answer I was hoping for 

Edited March 31, 2022 by Chilifight

[Britanium]

2 hours ago, J.A.C said:

Dr Bicer is one of the best choices in Turkey, along with Dr Turan/Dr Gur.

Yeh I did mention Dr Turan/Dr Gur earlier, definitely worthwhile considerations 👌

[Chilifight]

23 hours ago, MachoVato said:

I'll try. Your limit is €5k and you need 4k grafts and you want the doctor to do the procedure.

Only one doctor comes to mind. Dr. Gur. 16 years experience, does traditional FUE, performs extractions and channel openings, only one patient per day. Charges €1.25/graft.

Dr. Turan would be a quality alternative. He charges €4k for a 2-day procedure. Overs 20 years experience, uses an extraction specialist but the doctor does the channel openings.

Good luck!

 

Is this the Dr gur that you mean?

Edited April 1, 2022 by Melvin- Moderator
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[Melvin- Admin]

35 minutes ago, Chilifight said:

Is this the Dr gur that you mean?

FUEcapilar is where Dr. Gur does surgery.