Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 13, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 13, 2021 8 hours ago, SD1984 said: According to all I've read, it's mostly docs who work on your head at HLC with some technician assistance. @1needhair When did HLC quote you 2.5 euro per graft? According to the costs section on their site they are now at 2.7 2.5 euro if they choose the dates 8 hours ago, ML488 said: Am I the only one who thinks Finasteride isn't completely necessary for this guy? He has virtually no hair left on his head to begin with. I get how some docs (i.e. Pekiner) are just super conservative and want to try all they can to save whatever they can, but to me, going on Finasteride isn't exactly a small thing imo. It's medication basically forever. If this were 10 years ago and the guy was still NW3 or so, entirely different situation. P.S. to the OP, I can almost guarantee you that anything more than 5000 grafts in that donor will be too much. Be careful and cautious with how many grafts you give up. Every clinic has said finasteride is needed after surgery, going on it now should save whatever is left on top hopefully 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUCCI Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 HLC said you about 4000-4500 for which part? only front ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 13, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, GUCCI said: HLC said you about 4000-4500 for which part? only front ? “about 4000-4500 Grafts for the hairline. With this amount, we can rebuild the hairline and close the temples. We will also give to the front half area more density.” They said I’ll need a 2nd surgery for the crown 6-12 months later but the scalp donor area will not be enough and body/beard hair will be needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUCCI Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 1needhair said: “about 4000-4500 Grafts for the hairline. With this amount, we can rebuild the hairline and close the temples. We will also give to the front half area more density.” They said I’ll need a 2nd surgery for the crown 6-12 months later but the scalp donor area will not be enough and body/beard hair will be needed ask them how many grafts will remain in my donor if i put 4000-4500 grafts for front part now? How many beard grafts can they extract? Edited June 13, 2021 by GUCCI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ML488 Posted June 13, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2021 4000-4500 just for the hairline!??? No way. They must have meant frontal third and some midscalp. Your donor capacity is prob no more than 5000 as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted June 13, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2021 17 hours ago, ML488 said: Am I the only one who thinks Finasteride isn't completely necessary for this guy? He has virtually no hair left on his head to begin with. If he indeed only has 5,000 grafts in reserve then maintaining the bridge and lateral humps are crucially important. As a NW6 myself I know that only having 5,000 lifetime grafts would have left me very unsatisfied. 1 Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ML488 Posted June 13, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2021 No way you can safely take more than 5000 from him IMO, and yes the humps are crucial. Any ethical surgeon who looks at his advanced hair loss should always leave some room for the possibility that the humps drop later in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted June 14, 2021 Valued Contributor Share Posted June 14, 2021 On 6/13/2021 at 11:50 AM, ML488 said: Am I the only one who thinks Finasteride isn't completely necessary for this guy? He has virtually no hair left on his head to begin with. I get how some docs (i.e. Pekiner) are just super conservative and want to try all they can to save whatever they can, but to me, going on Finasteride isn't exactly a small thing imo. It's medication basically forever. If this were 10 years ago and the guy was still NW3 or so, entirely different situation. P.S. to the OP, I can almost guarantee you that anything more than 5000 grafts in that donor will be too much. Be careful and cautious with how many grafts you give up. Without Finasteride, etc, the lateral humps will drop, the thin frontal tuft will disappear and the bottom of the crown will dip. The donor area over all will miniaturize over the lifespan (so that includes the recipient area). 3 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 14, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 14, 2021 12 hours ago, ML488 said: 4000-4500 just for the hairline!??? No way. They must have meant frontal third and some midscalp. Your donor capacity is prob no more than 5000 as it is. HLC weren’t very clear in the email because in the pricing they’ve included bodygrafts. All the other clinics upto 4000 from scalp donor, Eugenix 3500 scalp and 1500 from beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted June 14, 2021 Valued Contributor Share Posted June 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, 1needhair said: HLC weren’t very clear in the email because in the pricing they’ve included bodygrafts. All the other clinics upto 4000 from scalp donor, Eugenix 3500 scalp and 1500 from beard I would seriously stick with Eugenix's advice with this. They don't recommend body grafts (chest, etc) for good reasons. 2 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUCCI Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Eugenix hair sciences are specialists in transplating beard hair . They can extract and transplant really big numbers of hair follicles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SD1984 Posted June 14, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted June 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Gatsby said: Without Finasteride, etc, the lateral humps will drop, the thin frontal tuft will disappear and the bottom of the crown will dip. The donor area over all will miniaturize over the lifespan (so that includes the recipient area). In his case Bc of such drastic loss at a young age, I agree. Extremely high chance of the rare donor thinning, as well as hump drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 14, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 14, 2021 On 6/13/2021 at 11:43 AM, GUCCI said: ask them how many grafts will remain in my donor if i put 4000-4500 grafts for front part now? How many beard grafts can they extract? They need to analyse donor area when I’m on site and after the examination they can tell me how many reserves I have left. For beard they can extract 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 14, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) I’ve updated the list on page 1, Mwamba and Lorenzo have been in touch so I will update the list later this week once they get back to me. This is from HDC. I don’t think I’d be happy with that to be honest.. maybe have the hair line slightly higher up so more can be covered at the back? Edited June 14, 2021 by 1needhair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted June 14, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted June 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, 1needhair said: I’ve updated the list on page 1, Mwamba and Lorenzo have been in touch so I will update the list later this week once they get back to me. This is from HDC. I don’t think I’d be happy with that to be honest.. maybe have the hair line slightly higher up so more can be covered at the back? Was HDC proposing a 2 stage plan with the above ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUCCI Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, 1needhair said: I’ve updated the list on page 1, Mwamba and Lorenzo have been in touch so I will update the list later this week once they get back to me. This is from HDC. I don’t think I’d be happy with that to be honest.. maybe have the hair line slightly higher up so more can be covered at the back? What about the plan of HDC for the crown? did they say anything or they just focus on front part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 14, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnAC71 said: Was HDC proposing a 2 stage plan with the above ? 44 minutes ago, GUCCI said: What about the plan of HDC for the crown? did they say anything or they just focus on front part? Surgery is to take place over 2 days but nothing is mentioned about a 2nd surgery later on. He did say this “Also we should not go over the top and put too much hair in case you have further hair loss in the future” I forgot to mention, my dad and grandad both are a Norwood 7. I think I’m a Norwood 5/6 currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUCCI Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, 1needhair said: Surgery is to take place over 2 days but nothing is mentioned about a 2nd surgery later on. He did say this “Also we should not go over the top and put too much hair in case you have further hair loss in the future” I forgot to mention, my dad and grandad both are a Norwood 7. I think I’m a Norwood 5/6 currently You can ask them about the crown if they can cover it as well with your remaining grafts on your donor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 16, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) On 6/14/2021 at 9:14 PM, GUCCI said: You can ask them about the crown if they can cover it as well with your remaining grafts on your donor. On 6/14/2021 at 7:11 PM, JohnAC71 said: Was HDC proposing a 2 stage plan with the above ? HDC can do the crown in a 2nd procedure 9 months later but doesn’t look like they can cover it fully Edited June 16, 2021 by 1needhair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 16, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 16, 2021 After speaking to Eugenix for the last few days I think they are my preferred clinic. Their results are amazing. I just need to decide on a package and dates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted June 16, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted June 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, 1needhair said: After speaking to Eugenix for the last few days I think they are my preferred clinic. Their results are amazing. I just need to decide on a package and dates Excellent choice. I know the travel is a difficult situation but they really are worth waiting for 🙏 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted June 16, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted June 16, 2021 Excellent choice, for the moment it is not advisable to go to India, but as soon as the situation returns to normal you should take a ticket to fly there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUCCI Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, 1needhair said: After speaking to Eugenix for the last few days I think they are my preferred clinic. Their results are amazing. I just need to decide on a package and dates what's eugenix hair sciences plan about your case? also how much do they charge per graft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 16, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnAC71 said: Excellent choice. I know the travel is a difficult situation but they really are worth waiting for 🙏 1 hour ago, Egy said: Excellent choice, for the moment it is not advisable to go to India, but as soon as the situation returns to normal you should take a ticket to fly there. Yes I’ll be waiting for the restrictions to ease before booking. Anyone on this forum booked the comprehensive package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 1needhair Posted June 16, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, GUCCI said: what's eugenix hair sciences plan about your case? also how much do they charge per graft? 5000 grafts over 2 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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