Senior Member SLA Posted February 15, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 4:06 PM, RandoBrando517 said: From what I understood in the interview combining both gets you 3,000 grafts more on average. Am I missing something? Seems like you guys are talking strictly one or the other. I did hear that in the Shapiro interview that they said that you might be able to get 3,000 more grafts by combining. Sounds like a lot more in their opinion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RandoBrando517 Posted February 15, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, SLA said: I did hear that in the Shapiro interview that they said that you might be able to get 3,000 more grafts by combining. Sounds like a lot more in their opinion! I’m still scared of the scar. Is it really worth it? They said it’s not for most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SLA Posted February 15, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 To me, if true, 3,000 grafts to me would be worth it. Other surgeons do not agree with the FUT/FUE combo yielding more grafts and they cite a ton of reasons (which may or may not be plausible)....but I divert. Would love to see a critical debate around Shapiro's lifetime graft availability study. I think it is good to think long term as we have limited donor resources and hair loss is progressive. Even at 47 with a virgin scalp, I could take the attitude that I am pushing 50 so an extra few grafts down the road will not matter much to me, however, I don't know how I will feel at age 70. Will I be satisfied with the results I got and not care so much about my hair or will I wish I had a few more grafts left in my donor to do another transplant? I am not sure of the answer, but it would be nice to know there are options due to decisions made now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kramer79 Posted February 15, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, SLA said: To me, if true, 3,000 grafts to me would be worth it. Other surgeons do not agree with the FUT/FUE combo yielding more grafts and they cite a ton of reasons (which may or may not be plausible)....but I divert. Would love to see a critical debate around Shapiro's lifetime graft availability study. Really? Who are the surgeons and what reasons do they cite that disagrees with the notion that FUT/FUE combo doesn't maximize lifetime graft availability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SLA Posted February 15, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, kramer79 said: Really? Who are the surgeons and what reasons do they cite that disagrees with the notion that FUT/FUE combo doesn't maximize lifetime graft availability? Dr. Bansal (Eugenix), Dr. John P. Cole- See article I posted in the FUE forum titled "The Case for FUE". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kramer79 Posted February 15, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, RandoBrando517 said: I’m still scared of the scar. Is it really worth it? They said it’s not for most people. It depends on a variety of factors. Genetic predisposition to hair loss and to what degree? Use of medication long-term and ultimately expectations. After consulting with many of the doctors that everyone around here considers elite they always asked "Are you ok with having no crown coverage or a lightly covered crown at best?" Basically if you read between the lines, are you ok with having less hair available to move as your hair loss progresses or is having access to more coverage and density more important, but you must be ready to live with the scar? I think it's fair to be scared of the "what ifs" of having a scar but i guess it's probably wiser to focus more on the fact you are doing all of this to have more hair and you should probably reduce the probability of complications by going to a top doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RandoBrando517 Posted February 16, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 hours ago, kramer79 said: It depends on a variety of factors. Genetic predisposition to hair loss and to what degree? Use of medication long-term and ultimately expectations. After consulting with many of the doctors that everyone around here considers elite they always asked "Are you ok with having no crown coverage or a lightly covered crown at best?" Basically if you read between the lines, are you ok with having less hair available to move as your hair loss progresses or is having access to more coverage and density more important, but you must be ready to live with the scar? I think it's fair to be scared of the "what ifs" of having a scar but i guess it's probably wiser to focus more on the fact you are doing all of this to have more hair and you should probably reduce the probability of complications by going to a top doctor. How can we know how bald well end up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member asterix0 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2021 Well, again, the aesthetics of the scar is only one thing. The main concerns are: Will it stretch over time, thus further compromising potential future donor grafts. Will there be numbness / sensitivity due to the greater invasiveness of the procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kramer79 Posted February 16, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 hours ago, RandoBrando517 said: How can we know how bald well end up? I guess you don't know for sure but perhaps you have an idea based on your family history and who you seem to be following as far as your hair loss progression. If your gut tells you that you are heading towards NW6+ then you probably should consider FUT. Honestly this is a personal choice, however knowing the facts gives you more power in making your decision. If I get FUE and end up with a depleted donor, is FUE as a method to blame? If I get FUT and I end up with a scar stretching, is FUT as a method to blame ? I think the only power we have when getting cosmetic surgery is minimizing the risk of complications by going to the top doctors of this particular field who will take in to account out unique situation and not give us a blanket approach on what method we should use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 16, 2021 Administrators Share Posted February 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, asterix0 said: Well, again, the aesthetics of the scar is only one thing. The main concerns are: Will it stretch over time, thus further compromising potential future donor grafts. Will there be numbness / sensitivity due to the greater invasiveness of the procedure. Scar stretching is a valid concern, but the chances of the scar stretching is low at 3,000 grafts and below. According to Dr. Shapiro. Numbness is another valid concern. I think both of these issues can happen, but rare with a good surgeon. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 16, 2021 Administrators Share Posted February 16, 2021 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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