Senior Member PupDaddy Posted October 22, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted October 22, 2015 In one of his recently posted YouTube videos (I don’t think I’m allowed to link to it), Dr. John Diep says that grafts harvested by strip “will grow five to ten percent better” than grafts harvested by FUE. Dr. Diep’s quantification is notable because he offers and regularly performs both methods of extraction and considers himself an FUE specialist. Dr. Diep performs all the extractions for his FUE cases himself using a manual (non-motorized) punch and tool of his own design. As far as I’m aware, Dr. Diep is the only HRN recommended surgeon other than Drs. Feller and Lindsey and maybe Dr. Ron Shapiro to have publicly quantified the expected growth differential between these two harvesting methods in his practice. In the mentioned video, Dr. Diep says that both extraction methods produce “excellent results” but that FUT/strip will grow “five to ten percent better.” He goes on to say that FUE is well suited to cases of mild to moderate hair loss whereas FUT/strip is advantageous for cases of advanced hair loss where very large numbers of grafts must be harvested. More grist for the FUT vs. FUE mill, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member lileli Posted October 22, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted October 22, 2015 I think the 5 to 10% range was always considered normal. What was in dispute was whether there was a 30% difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 22, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 22, 2015 He said in the video that the difference in his FUT and FUE is 5-10% which sounds pretty normal, he also said that his FUE growth is usually better than most surgeons FUT a bold claim. But I think there are skilled surgeons who's difference may be even less like 3%, also another thing to consider is how much of a visual impact would 5-10% make on te overall result, i don't think there would be much of an impact if one at all. There were many surgeons here claiming the difference in yield was 20-30% a much bigger gap. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member FUE2014 Posted October 23, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not sure if this is the video you are talking about, below he talks about how his FUE can be as good as his FUT, plus some other interesting observations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member esrec Posted October 23, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted October 23, 2015 patient profile and biology is always understated when making these comparisons. A really good candidate with moderate loss will see great results with either. A more complicated candidate with more advanced loss will almost always find FUT to be a safer bet. The debate remains centered on surgeon skill and extraction processes, as it should, but the wild card is always the candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member FUE2014 Posted October 24, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Looking forward to seeing the outcome of this FUE/FUT study in 12 months....they're calling for participants now. (Link removed by moderator - See Terms of Service) Edited October 24, 2015 by David - Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted October 24, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2015 Pup, Videos by recommended physicians from neutral sites like YouTube are always appropriate. We don't permit linking to other hair restoration or hair loss communities. Thus, I have removed the link to Hair Loss Experiences posted by FUE2014 David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Shadow of the EMpire State Posted October 24, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2015 This is a Beta/VHS debate that has an obvious, inexorable conclusion: FUE will prevail, and strip will be recalled with the same horror and disbelief now reserved for stories about flap surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Petchski Posted October 24, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2015 Not allowing links to other HT sites is kinda weak, almost as if you're scared of them. Oh no, another HT forum, they will take all our posters! -------------------------------------- My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Feller Dr Feller Jan '09 2000 grafts Dr Lorenzo Dec '15 2222 grafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnCasper Posted October 31, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted October 31, 2015 The debate will continue with FUT vs. FUE. Some say the transection (damaged graft) rate is higher with FUE. Even if a typical transection rate of 3 -4 %, the skilled surgeon typically takes enough extra grafts from the donor area to provide what the patient expects and pays for. I had a large FUE case (5,125 grafts) in 2012. If you look at the pictures on my own blog site you can see how successful it was. Based on what I read in this dialogue thread, I think its appropriate to share my blog site so you can see more pictures. If not David (Moderator) will remove it. My blog has no forum opportunities for open dialogue. I've been using it to show before/after pictures during the past three years. The blog site is My FUE Hair Transplant I am an online representative for Carolina Hair Surgery & Dr. Mike Vories (Recommended on the Hair Transplant Network). View John's before/after photos and videos: http://www.MyFUEhairtransplant.com You can email me at johncasper99@gmail.com I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Petchski Posted November 3, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hey John, I read through your blog, a good read and very detailed account with lots of pictures, you look better and younger without doubt. -------------------------------------- My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Feller Dr Feller Jan '09 2000 grafts Dr Lorenzo Dec '15 2222 grafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnCasper Posted November 3, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted November 3, 2015 Thanks "Petchski". I've been posting pictures of my progress for 3 years now. I had 5,125 grafts done (FUE) in 2012 and another 2,000 in January of this year just to fill in some thin areas. I sometimes direct new hair transplant patients to my archives section where I blogged and posted pictures everyday for the first 30 days which provides everything they need to know and what to expect post surgery. Thanks for the kind words....yes... lots of people tell me how much younger I look. I am an online representative for Carolina Hair Surgery & Dr. Mike Vories (Recommended on the Hair Transplant Network). View John's before/after photos and videos: http://www.MyFUEhairtransplant.com You can email me at johncasper99@gmail.com I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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