Senior Member Matt27 Posted December 19, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) I am considering these 3 for FUE to restore my frontal third (it is worse than it looks in my avatar. The photo is a year old). I would like to be able to keep a buzz cut, so I am wondering which of the 3 doctors would be best for: 1. Leaving a clean donor zone 2. Providing a natural looking result with very short hair 3. Any other reasons that would be particularly important in my case like hairline design, etc. I also want to be conservative with grafts and have a long term plan in mind. Thanks, Matt Edited December 19, 2014 by Matt27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966kph Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 It all boils down to your own personal preference as you've picked probably 3 of the 5 or 6 bes fue docs IMO. My own personal preference would be Lorenzo. You obviously know what you want and have laid out your plans bearing the future in mind which a lot of people dont. Which ever one you decide you have made the right choice you cannot go wrong with any of these three. Good luck to you and I hope you get the best possible outcome. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member stinger99 Posted December 19, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 19, 2014 Having just gone through a great experience with Dr bisanga and his team, I would surely recommend Dr bisanga.nthat bring said, I think very highly of Dr lorenzo as well. I think you should consult with each and see who you feel more comfortable with. For Dr bisanga you can contact sl who is on this site and acts as Dr bisangas patient advisor. His service, experience and knowledge was a big part in me chosing Dr bisanga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted December 19, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 19, 2014 I think they would all be good, but Feriduni seems to specialize in FUE on low norwoods... 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lateatnight Posted December 19, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted December 19, 2014 In my humble opinion, go with Feriduni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSA Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 yes if ur lookn for a hairline Feriduni is the guy. Lorenzo hairlines look like 70 yr old men. I wudnt chose any of them actually. id go with Erdogan. better results cheaper price and some of the best hairlines I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 Busa, what are the names of the techs who you would actually recommend to perform the extractions? Do you have enough personal experience with all of them to know which ones are the best? This would be very useful information to share with prospective patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnny2000 Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 yes if ur lookn for a hairline Feriduni is the guy. Lorenzo hairlines look like 70 yr old men. I wudnt chose any of them actually. id go with Erdogan. better results cheaper price and some of the best hairlines I've seen. Its funny that Allmost Everytime i see BUSA his post's mention the 2 turkish doctors. The guy is asking about some other surgeons but again he bring up a turkish doc. Hmmm??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Pma Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 TOTALLY AGREE JONNY2000 I notice this all the time then when you ask him to back up his comments you will get nothing from him think the site is beginning to work you out busa!!! AT LAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lateatnight Posted December 20, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 BetterLate seriously?????? All those words to rub busa shoulder(...). You're definitely OT. And out of place! Matt is looking for solid fact, and once again a bunch of trolls came in to poison the thread. Have you guys any respect for people that are genuinely looking for a solution? Hairweare, Pma, london81 and myself, are patients of some of the doctors named by Matt. We are entitled to talk. The others, i don't know on which base are they talking since they have never had experience with the mentioned docs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BetterLate Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Thank you. I understand. Took just a minute to figure out "OT". No good excuse for faux pas, but new at posting. Edited December 20, 2014 by BetterLate Shorten apology to minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PupDaddy Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 Busa, what are the names of the techs who you would actually recommend to perform the extractions? Do you have enough personal experience with all of them to know which ones are the best? This would be very useful information to share with prospective patients. The more pertinent question to ask, hairweare, is whether Matt wants a renowned hair transplant surgeon with decades of experience, an established aesthetic and sense of artistry, and a long track record of exceptional documented results, to map out and create the thousands of recipient sites for his precious donor grafts using state-of-the-art tools and technique (by going with one of his three choices or with Dr. Erdogen), or whether he wants a technician with a power drill performing this task (by going to one of the illegally operating Turkish technician transplant clinics I believe you are referring to). Matt -- for what it's worth, of the three outstanding surgeons you've mentioned, and given the criteria you mentioned, my personal choice would be Feriduni, with Bisanga a close second. I think their hairline work is a bit more natural, i.e., more closely mimics nature, than Dr. Lorenzo's only because Dr. Lorenzo uses implanter pens to make the recipient sites and simultaneously "inject" the grafts into them, which to me can produce somewhat less natural hairline work than an accomplished physician using custom sized (to the grafts), custom cut blades to make laterally oriented recipient slits for the grafts -- as practiced by Drs. Feriduni and Bisanga. Just my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966kph Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Actual patients of any of the three are obviously better equipped to give advice but why should this thread end up in a slagging match? All three are excellent and we all have our own preference and for Busa (who I have disagreed constantly) to be accused of being a shill is laughable. He's not plain and simple. Lateatnight betterlate is perfectly entitled to his opinions whether they are right or wrong. Let's get back on topic. Matt I presume you have been looking and comparing photos from all three and if you short listed these three I presume you have also discounted lots of other good fue docs. I think its going to come down to your gut instinct that has been determined by your research. Any of them and your in good hands. Have a good weekend all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 If you are trying to match your prospective results with pictures on a webpage or video you need to know specifically who did the work. Techs may all be competent but as humans we all have different abilities. For example MLB players are all great athletes but some hit for higher averages than others. The final result of an FUE is the sum of many parts. The more you can isolated those variables the better you can predict how your individual result may turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lateatnight Posted December 20, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Actual patients of any of the three are obviously better equipped to give advice but why should this thread end up in a slagging match?All three are excellent and we all have our own preference and for Busa (who I have disagreed constantly) to be accused of being a shill is laughable. He's not plain and simple. Lateatnight betterlate is perfectly entitled to his opinions whether they are right or wrong. Let's get back on topic. Matt I presume you have been looking and comparing photos from all three and if you short listed these three I presume you have also discounted lots of other good fue docs. I think its going to come down to your gut instinct that has been determined by your research. Any of them and your in good hands. Have a good weekend all Matt asked a question, any other consideration is off topic including your constant tendency to advocate o justify incorrect behavior. Let patient talk and let's future patient be informed properly. You're OT too. Have a good day. Edited December 20, 2014 by Lateatnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GraveD11gger Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 whether he wants a technician with a power drill performing this task (by going to one of the illegally operating Turkish technician transplant clinics I believe you are referring to). . PupDaddy, Only clinics operated by Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons (and Dermatologists) and certified by the Health Authorities in Turkey are legal hair transplant clinics. Medical Practitioners are not allowed to open a clinic for hair transplant, even they can not perform HT legally. Anyway any doctor can do any operation on patients, legality is different issue. Now, do your homework and learn which clinics are approved by the name of he real (plastic or dermatologic) surgeons. Health Authorities just approve responsible surgeon, not the other physicians - medical practitioners even the general surgeons do not approved for HT. Approved Clinics may do HT operations legally using nurses and/or medical technicians, plastic or dermatologic surgeon assume all medicolegal responsibilities. I recommend you do not dig legal issues much, this should not be business of any forum. And I do not think moderators would want this. Anyway, if you so wish, we may discuss more. BTW, I asked you a question in another thread, still waiting your reply. This is an opportunity for you to prove your authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 To be sure, I believe Feriduni has technicians extract grafts as well, just like Erdogan, Lorenzo, and to a lesser extent Bisanga. 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GraveD11gger Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 I wish moderators will approve my post to the thread which gives critical information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt27 Posted December 20, 2014 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the responses so far guys. I imagine I will get a bunch of recommendations for all 3. I was leaning toward Feriduni yesterday morning, Bisanga last night, and now Lorenzo this morning. Between Bisanga and Feriduni, it seems that Bisanga is more conservative and strongly values long term planning and avoiding risk over the short term. However, he does seem to be a strategist, which I like. I have read posts like this: Dr. Bisanga is confident that FUE, when done correctly, will eliminate dramatic reduction in the donor often resulting in a "moth-eaten" look and allow patients to wear very short hair with no visible signs of surgery. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/169476-potential-recommendation-dr-christian-bisanga-brussels-belgium.html will have to combine beard hair with the first op to achieve around 3000 grafts, possibly still a gap between the frontal and mid area. We design to keep shaved, grow longer and the look will not be as good. Dr Feriduni, Dr Bisanga, Dr De Reys - Hair Transplant-Hair Restoration Topics - Hair Transplant section - Hairloss Experiences Hairloss Forum It seems that he has experience with (and advocates) the vision I have in mind. Also, I have seen great results from him like this: 2850 FUE BHR Dr Bisanga - Sept 2012 - Hair Transplant Patient Results/updates - Hair Transplant section - Hairloss Experiences Hairloss Forum I am not that fixated about my specific hairline, although a natural looking NW2 would be ideal. In my avatar I look like a NW 2.5, but I am a 3 and counting since I am not on propecia yet (I will be soon). I have heard Feriduni described as a "YOLO doctor" and I like that mindset because it's true. Also, YOYO (you're only young once), which is particularly important to me right now. On the other hand, I am concerned that Bisanga will be more conservative than I want to be. However, I have a lot of beard and body hair available and that could affect Bisanga's long term planning given the 2nd link I posted. Does anyone have any information on whether Feriduni plans like Bisanga above? Basically for people opting to have a buzzcut and basing the HT process around that. As for Lorenzo, I haven't heard much of anything negative about him. He's a bit mysterious in that regard and my one worry is that he doesn't speak English and communication may not be ideal. Edited December 20, 2014 by Matt27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt27 Posted December 20, 2014 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 It all boils down to your own personal preference as you've picked probably 3 of the 5 or 6 bes fue docs IMO.My own personal preference would be Lorenzo. You obviously know what you want and have laid out your plans bearing the future in mind which a lot of people dont. Which ever one you decide you have made the right choice you cannot go wrong with any of these three. Good luck to you and I hope you get the best possible outcome. Have a nice day. Who are your other 2/3? Having just gone through a great experience with Dr bisanga and his team, I would surely recommend Dr bisanga.nthat bring said, I think very highly of Dr lorenzo as well. I think you should consult with each and see who you feel more comfortable with. For Dr bisanga you can contact sl who is on this site and acts as Dr bisangas patient advisor. His service, experience and knowledge was a big part in me chosing Dr bisanga. Thanks, I will do that when the time comes. yes if ur lookn for a hairline Feriduni is the guy. Lorenzo hairlines look like 70 yr old men. I wudnt chose any of them actually. id go with Erdogan. better results cheaper price and some of the best hairlines I've seen. Erdogan is highly recommended, but tbh I am not considering Turkish doctors for the sole reason that regulations over there are different and I want to be as cautious as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Pma Posted December 20, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hi matt, Just to let you know lorenzo speaks English I left ther last week and had lots of conversations with him in english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966kph Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hello matt I hope your well. As you have discounted turkey 2 of my favourite docs are of no use to you. Erdoğan and kesser. In the states I've always liked feller and Shapiro. I thought you had narrowed your choice down to your top 3? If I were you I wouldn't rule out Erdoğan as being a recommended doc here if you were to have any problems the forum is a great source of leverage in getting things sorted and he is IMO the best fue doc but each to their own. Your choices so far are excellent. Good luck to you. Have a good evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HARIRI Posted December 21, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 21, 2014 When it comes to mini perfect extractions I would strongly recommmend Dr. Bisanga as he is using minimum size manual tools and does all or most of the extractions by himself. His own representative is shaving his head after many transplants (Stephen). Also one of my ex collegemates had HT with him and recently shaving his head with an amazing natural look. This is my golden advice. Good luck Buddy. Plug removal + Strip scar revision - Dr. Ali Karadeniz (AEK)- May 23, 2015 Plug removal + 250 FUE temple points- Dr. Hakan Doganay (AHD)- July 3, 2013 Scar Tricopigmentation- Dr. Koray Erdogan (ASMED)- May 3, 2013 2500 FUT (Hairline Repair)- Dr. Rahal- July 26, 2011 My Hair Treatments: 1- Alpecin Double Effect Shampoo (Daily) 2- Regaine Solution Minoxidil 5% (2 ml once a day) 3- GNC Ultra NourishHair™ (Once a day) 4- GNC Herbal Plus Standardized Saw Palmetto (Once a day) My Rahal HT thread http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/164456-2500-fut-dr-rahal-hairline-repair.html[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt27 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 21, 2014 btw if I don't respond to your in particular, it doesn't mean I'm not grateful, just that I don't have anything to follow up with Hi matt, Just to let you know lorenzo speaks English I left ther last week and had lots of conversations with him in english Sounds good.Some people have said that he uses a translator, but maybe he learned or became more fluent while he was over at Farjo. Hello matt I hope your well.As you have discounted turkey 2 of my favourite docs are of no use to you. Erdoğan and kesser. In the states I've always liked feller and Shapiro. I thought you had narrowed your choice down to your top 3? If I were you I wouldn't rule out Erdoğan as being a recommended doc here if you were to have any problems the forum is a great source of leverage in getting things sorted and he is IMO the best fue doc but each to their own. Your choices so far are excellent. Good luck to you. Have a good evening I have narrowed it down to 3, but my list is tentative and could change. Anyway Erdogan is highly recommended even by Mickey on here so maybe I should do some research on him. When it comes to mini perfect extractions I would strongly recommmend Dr. Bisanga as he is using minimum size manual tools and does all or most of the extractions by himself. His own representative is shaving his head after many transplants (Stephen). Also one of my ex collegemates had HT with him and recently shaving his head with an amazing natural look. This is my golden advice. Good luck Buddy. Thanks a lot. This is a big deal. I think I am starting to lean toward Bisanga. Do Lorenzo and Feriduni use larger punches? I have read that Bisanga uses 0.75 mm to 0.8 mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted December 21, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted December 21, 2014 Please do not judge surgeons by punch sizes, those are dependent upon the patient characteristics, the internet goes overboard in its advocacy of smaller punches. 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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