galleons Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I'm currently considering a large FUE procedure (3000+) with one of the most respected FUE surgeons in Europe. While there's plenty of evidence of successful results of large FUE procedures posted up by surgeons, I wonder if these are the exception rather than the rule given the number of patients on here posting up unsatisfactory results from such procedures - often with respected surgeons. Sub-par results from large FUE procedures seem to be quite a frequent topic both on this thread and the forum for patients to post up their own FUE results. There was an earlier thread on here that suggested subjecting the scalp to two days of trauma was a dangerous thing to do and that large FUE procedures were best attempted over two separate procedures 8 months or so apart. I wonder if there is any truth in that? I'd welcome the community thoughts on this, in particularly I'd interested in responses from patients who have undergone large FUE procedures in a single session with respected surgeons who've had good or bad results. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Aftermath Posted May 31, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted May 31, 2014 if it were me i would probably do two 1500 procedures 8 months apart, i feel this will give a much more reliable outcome. FUE is more time consuming so large procedures when done on the same day will result in a lower graft survival rate due to the time of the grafts outside the body IMO. Not sure about doing the procedure over 2 consecutive days, I'd definitely favour this over one large procedure in a day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lateatnight Posted May 31, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hi, i'm going to meet a great doctor for a consultation, i'm going to ask this specific question, i'll be happy to report his answer to you. For most of Fue specialist it's an average number. Larger session are usually done in two days in a row. Btw, you know, that's the kind of thing that keeps me awake at night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted May 31, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted May 31, 2014 Personally i think that most of the FUE top surgeons can all easily handle doing 3000+ grafts in a day. Some cases have gone up to 5500 grafts with a combo of FUE/FUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galleons Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hi Lateatnight - Well, its being keeping me awake at night too, particularly as I'm quite close to booking such a procedure! And I appreciate that larger sessions are done over two days but some of the evidence on here doesn't appear to be particularly encouraging - I've lost count of the number that have trailed off after diligently posting for 4-5 months - which I think is generally a bad sign. Whose your consultation with? And yes, i'd definitely be interested in his response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Loags79 Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) 3000+ grafts in 1 day? Thats crazy. It'd be pushing way pass.15-16 hours imo. My HT by FUT of 3261 grafts started at 1030am and finished at 7.30pm. I would bet the doc and techs would be wrecked with 1 full day of 3000+ fue grafts that would take 15-16 hours plus to finish. And I'll officially deem that a very rushed job.! Be ready for a world of transection and pain. People are playing with fire if they expect a quality outcome by pushing unrealistic expectations such as more than 1000 fue grafts in one day. There is a physical limit on how much a human being can work. FUT still takes 10hrs for 3200ish grafts. Edited June 1, 2014 by Loags79 my HT thread: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/175267-dr-radha-fut-3261-grafts-photo-word-heavy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 No its very common to do 3000 in a day. Like i said most of the top docs are doing it on a daily basis. With the latest techniques it can take around 8 hours. I recently had 2800 done in approx 7.5 hours, You can see top results on here by all the recommended Surgeons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutch Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 That's crazy! 1-1.5k a day over two days sounds reasonable. Think some ppl are getting ahead of themselves. Only 3 years ago a FUE session over two days for 3k grafts was a small miracle. I realise technology & experience have come further but at this rate, soon we'll be saying 5k FUE in one session is achievable! Fatigue would kick in massively. My first op took 10 hours & that's was FUT. Do what's safe & realistic. You don't want the grafts to be put in danger of dying. http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2329 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Aftermath Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 That's crazy! 1-1.5k a day over two days sounds reasonable. Think some ppl are getting ahead of themselves. Only 3 years ago a FUE session over two days for 3k grafts was a small miracle. I realise technology & experience have come further but at this rate, soon we'll be saying 5k FUE in one session is achievable! Fatigue would kick in massively. My first op took 10 hours & that's was FUT.Do what's safe & realistic. You don't want the grafts to be put in danger of dying. 100% agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 Lorenzo who is considered by many to be the best FUE practitioner in the world constantly does 3,000 graft sessions a day but does not go over that amount. Of course, just because he can do them efficiently and with amazing results does not mean every clinic can. I am apprehensive about clinics doing 5,000 graft sessions in one day though. The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 I would agree with Mickey. 3000 grafts is a typical amount that most top FUE surgeons are doing within a day. Of course some offer mega FUE sessions of more than amount. The most FUE I had done in a day was 3500. Which took practically the same amount of time as a FUT procedure I had, which was also approx 3500 grafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lateatnight Posted June 1, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 So, i guess it would be safe to do a procedure of 2000-2500 a day, for two sessions, for a total of 4000-5000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 That really depends from person to person. And who your surgeon is. But yes its very feasible to do. Who are you looking at choosing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lateatnight Posted June 1, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 Koray or Lorenzo. I was also interested in Feriduni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 Excellent choice of surgeons ! be interesting how they compare in what they recommend for your HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldingBogger Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 I would keep to 1k max per day or session. I believe a lot of large fue cases and fut cases for that matter require touch ups due to less than optimal yield. I believe these don't make it online for various reasons. The smaller the session the higher the yield IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lateatnight Posted June 1, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 Hi johnboy71 i'm waiting a reply from Lorenzo, i have Koray's. Feriduni, it' s not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutch Posted June 1, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 Didn't hear from Dr. Feriduni? http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2329 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lateatnight Posted June 1, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) Nope. His waiting list is very long, March April 2015 or so. I'd like to see some new hairs on my head by that time And back on topic, i'm flirting with the idea of a large fue procedure, but i think 4000 uf in two day should be the right compromise for a good result. Edited June 1, 2014 by Lateatnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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