Gage Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'm new to this but have been reading over this place for a few weeks now and finally decided to take some photos to get some opinions. I went to a hair clinic last week to see what my options are. They recommended HT since my mothers father is bald. However my hairloss is tricky, I'm not 100% sure what it's from. When I was younger I always dyed and bleached my hair and I know i left it on longer than I was suppose to sometimes. I also know I put a lot of it on where my hair loss currently is (the front). With that being said I have noticed a little hair regrowth since I started eating a lot healthier and going to the gym 4 times a week. I also use this shampoo Vichy Dercos Energising Shampoo with Aminexil so I'm not sure if that's helping it or not. I also take Biotin when I can remember. The regrowth isn't much but I think there is some. The hair clinic said I would need 1000 hair grafts and that would cost me $4500, is this an ok price? I know mine isn't that bad and I'm not sure if it's from me screwing up my hair when I was younger or if it's hereditary since it is growing back somewhat. I asked about laser and they instantly ruled that out when I mentioned my grandfather is bald. I attached some photos so you can see. My donor section is fine, it's just my front. My hair is very thick and grows faster than most. I know it's not as bad as some people but I am young (28) and really want a full head of hair so I have no exscuse not to approach women :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member asiandude Posted August 30, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 30, 2013 1000 seems very little. I got 1200 and hair wasn't receding as bad but now I think I need more to get a thicker look in crown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gage Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 How much did 1200 cost you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member asiandude Posted August 30, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 30, 2013 At least double your price since I got fue from a Dr on this network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gage Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 So $4500 is a decent price for 1000 grafts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueonly Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 who is ur doctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gage Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 Dr. Nick Agnesi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted August 31, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted August 31, 2013 The clinic should have prescribed you Propecia and recommended supplementing it with Rogaine Foam, then coming back 6 months later for a checkup. "They recommended HT since my mothers father is bald." If they really said that then it's a ridiculous comment. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member greatjob Posted August 31, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted August 31, 2013 "They recommended HT since my mothers father is bald." If they really said that then it's a ridiculous comment. Yes if a hair transplant clinic is recommending treatment based on an old wives tale, that hairloss is inherited from your mother, then you should never return to that clinic. Also I have never heard of the doctor, which is not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Since13 Posted August 31, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 31, 2013 You know what! I think that should do your research before taking the plunge. I think that 1000 will not make a big difference given your loss. I think that you should consider being on medication and re-assess your situation in a year or so. I know quite a few who were about to get a HT but due to their outstanding response to the drugs, they did not get a HT. The point that I'm trying to make is that you should read into hair restoration before doing any thing as when you get a HT, there is no way back. Also, you should keep in mind that a HT is not exact science and that there are a lot of factors that affect the results. So take it easy and take your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gage Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 You know what! I think that should do your research before taking the plunge. I think that 1000 will not make a big difference given your loss. I think that you should consider being on medication and re-assess your situation in a year or so. I know quite a few who were about to get a HT but due to their outstanding response to the drugs, they did not get a HT. The point that I'm trying to make is that you should read into hair restoration before doing any thing as when you get a HT, there is no way back. Also, you should keep in mind that a HT is not exact science and that there are a lot of factors that affect the results. So take it easy and take your time. I'm just looking for a full set of hair why wouldn't 1000 make a big difference? I don't like the look of a receding hairline at all and would like as much coverage as I can get.. Yes I know your hairline naturally recedes with age, but the friends I go out with have full sets of hair and I am looking for the same, they are my age. I was told my hair that has already been lost cannot grow back through laser therapy or medication, is this not true? The clinic I went to told me this. If HT isn't the right answer then what is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Regular Member Wes310 Posted September 2, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 2, 2013 My recommendation after looking at your pics is simply no. However, if you are looking at this as an option then you HAVE TO BE ON MEDS FIRST!!!! I can't emphasize this enough. If your doctor doesn't want to prescribe medicine such as Propecia first and then checking on you as a candidate then you should be running like hell. I would recommend starting medical treatment at least 6-12 months before a follow up with a doctor. At this time you may also consider blood tests to make sure that the medicine is not having any negative effects on your body. If you can't stop the apparent DHT flooding to your scalp then why would you transplant follicles to the top of your scalp if you are just going to continue to lose hair? The hair that is transplanted will not be enough to cover your whole scalp. Thankfully you have a lot of hair still and I would recommend starting a photo journal of your hair loss. If you notice it progressing start with medicine first and hope you don't have the side effects. If you do, then you are not a candidate for a hair transplant. No one can predict what your hair loss will be accurately, but looking at those in your family is a decent guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Since13 Posted September 2, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 2, 2013 My recommendation after looking at your pics is simply no. However, if you are looking at this as an option then you HAVE TO BE ON MEDS FIRST!!!! I can't emphasize this enough. If your doctor doesn't want to prescribe medicine such as Propecia first and then checking on you as a candidate then you should be running like hell. I would recommend starting medical treatment at least 6-12 months before a follow up with a doctor. At this time you may also consider blood tests to make sure that the medicine is not having any negative effects on your body. If you can't stop the apparent DHT flooding to your scalp then why would you transplant follicles to the top of your scalp if you are just going to continue to lose hair? The hair that is transplanted will not be enough to cover your whole scalp. Thankfully you have a lot of hair still and I would recommend starting a photo journal of your hair loss. If you notice it progressing start with medicine first and hope you don't have the side effects. If you do, then you are not a candidate for a hair transplant. No one can predict what your hair loss will be accurately, but looking at those in your family is a decent guess. Well said! Gage, I'd like to bring to your attention that, according to what I see from your photos, your loss is not as minimal as you may think. I don't think that 1000 will be enough. You and I are of similar age and level of hair loss and I know what I'm talking about as I've had a number of consultations with the top surgeons in the world. Do you know that if you want to lower your hairline 1 cm, you need around 1500 grafts? Do the math. If you are looking for a full head of hair and a dense hairline, then 1000 is not what you are looking for. I know how difficult it is for all of us to lose our hair and I know how it is for some of us, especially of young age, to see other people who have those low and dense hairlines. But you should know the limitations of HTs before knowing what they can give to you. If you want my advice, be on medication before you think about a HT. If you are in a hurry and cannot wait, then send you pictures or have a consultation with some good doctor. I recommend Dr Hasson, Dr Rahal and Dr Feller as I've had consultations with them. Good luck:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardbrazil Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Man... Life is hard... and long. Don't get a hair transplant right now... You are young, it will get worse. That's the truth. Some meds can make it slow down, but, some time, it will definitly get at least a bit worse... You don't wan't to do a HT now and, sometime in the future, get hostage of a hat or toppik and similars. Be confident, go to the gym, make yourself feel better of somehow. I did a hair transplant at your age and I have my regrets. You can look for some stories (awful, btw) at this forum that will make you change your mind. In my opinion, if you want to do a HT, do it when an entire area of your scalp is "lost". Crown, front, middle, whatever... Do it when it will make a serious and permanent change in your look, not when it will be temporary (2, 3 years from now your natural hairline will suffer a bigger recession and it will be all worthless). It sucks? Yes. It sucks. But like I said, compensate it somehow. You win a bit here, lose a bit there, but don't fuck your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BlackAmish111 Posted September 3, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 3, 2013 @OP: Hmmm, well honestly I don't know. Personally I don't think it looks that extensive and actually think mine looked a bit worse and I went ahead and had 900+ grafts to try and restore a hairline. Im at 4 1/2 months and my opinion of whether its making a difference literally changes from day to day. Some days I really think I see a difference but other days I get scared that not enough was done. One thing that still kinda irks me is that the Dr. just didn't really spend any real time telling me what and what I can't achieve realistically with 8-900 grafts. Although I can clearly see some growth as a thin perimeter, the area behind it looks like it's still thinning though time will tell if the hair put up front will thicken and feather in with the middle region a bit more. Ill start posting pictures at 5-6 months to give a better feel of what was done. Also my hair is more of a wavy/bushy type so the Dr said it will appear to be even more hair. Last irksome complaint I have is that my clinic never took Post-ops......makes it hard to see what exact coverage was done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gage Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Wow thanks for all the answers and suggestions, didn't expect this many responses, really appreciated. I am wondering about medication now. My problem isn't losing my current hair as I believe my hair has stopped falling out about 6 months ago since I am now less stressed and I eat very healthy now. I also think Biotin and my DHT blocker shampoo is helping along with going to the gym and cardio. Will propecia regrow hair in the front? I thought this was only for the crown? I believe my hair is regrowing, I took some photos of 6 months ago and I now see growth where I didn't have any 6 months ago. My goal if I don't get a HT is to try to get as much of my hair back as possible. What about laser for this section?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gage Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 @OP: Hmmm, well honestly I don't know. Personally I don't think it looks that extensive and actually think mine looked a bit worse and I went ahead and had 900+ grafts to try and restore a hairline. Im at 4 1/2 months and my opinion of whether its making a difference literally changes from day to day. Some days I really think I see a difference but other days I get scared that not enough was done. One thing that still kinda irks me is that the Dr. just didn't really spend any real time telling me what and what I can't achieve realistically with 8-900 grafts. Although I can clearly see some growth as a thin perimeter, the area behind it looks like it's still thinning though time will tell if the hair put up front will thicken and feather in with the middle region a bit more. Ill start posting pictures at 5-6 months to give a better feel of what was done. Also my hair is more of a wavy/bushy type so the Dr said it will appear to be even more hair. Last irksome complaint I have is that my clinic never took Post-ops......makes it hard to see what exact coverage was done.. Do you have any before op pics? How many consultation meetings did you have before you decided? Did you go to a dermatologist or a clinic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BlackAmish111 Posted September 3, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 3, 2013 Hey, I'll try to post some pre-ops soon -still trying to figure out the whole face masking thing. I just looked at them and also at that time my doc had me on TRT which seemed to make me look far balder. I was assuming I was a NW 3 but after recently asking my Dr she said she thought I was more of a NW 2. Anyways, my Dr is one of the highly reputed ones promoted here so not a dermatologists. I lived a full state away and couldn't afford an in house consultation so we talked via phone and email. This was a big mistake. I would recommend EVERYONE to meet and talk with their doctor beforehand because when you show up the day of surgery -it's go time! No 15 minute meeting in the office to pre-plan or talk about what amount of grafts go where - the plane has already launched. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking or trashing anyone, just that I was expecting more like "this is how your going to look" video -lol! Would that really be so hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted September 3, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted September 3, 2013 You know what! I think that should do your research before taking the plunge. I think that 1000 will not make a big difference given your loss. I think that you should consider being on medication and re-assess your situation in a year or so. I know quite a few who were about to get a HT but due to their outstanding response to the drugs, they did not get a HT. The point that I'm trying to make is that you should read into hair restoration before doing any thing as when you get a HT, there is no way back. Also, you should keep in mind that a HT is not exact science and that there are a lot of factors that affect the results. So take it easy and take your time. I was going to comment but this poster said it all. I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted September 3, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted September 3, 2013 Wow thanks for all the answers and suggestions, didn't expect this many responses, really appreciated. I am wondering about medication now. My problem isn't losing my current hair as I believe my hair has stopped falling out about 6 months ago since I am now less stressed and I eat very healthy now. I also think Biotin and my DHT blocker shampoo is helping along with going to the gym and cardio. Will propecia regrow hair in the front? I thought this was only for the crown? I believe my hair is regrowing, I took some photos of 6 months ago and I now see growth where I didn't have any 6 months ago. My goal if I don't get a HT is to try to get as much of my hair back as possible. What about laser for this section?? Hair loss rarely stops without meds. If may pause for a moment, but it is progressive in nature. You really should be on meds. I am not saying that you are not a candidate but you would need more than 100 grafts. You are old enough that it is ok to get a transplant, but the important thing is that you do to the right doctor, you plan on getting future work done and are financially ready for that, and you plant the hair in a conservative nature based on your donor to be ready for future loss. I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member MrSteele Posted September 4, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hair loss rarely stops without meds. If may pause for a moment, but it is progressive in nature. You really should be on meds. I am not saying that you are not a candidate but you would need more than 100 grafts. You are old enough that it is ok to get a transplant, but the important thing is that you do to the right doctor, you plan on getting future work done and are financially ready for that, and you plant the hair in a conservative nature based on your donor to be ready for future loss. Be ready for future loss even if he's using finasteride and seemingly stopped the hair loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted September 4, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted September 4, 2013 Be ready for future loss even if he's using finasteride and seemingly stopped the hair loss?Yes. Most people will still drop below their base count of hair after starting meds eventually. If takes much longer to this usually, but you should still be prepared. I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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