2 hair jobs: 2000 grts, 1000 grfts, total 3000 grafts: 2 questions.....

[msullivan777]

I basically have 2 questions:

 

Background Info.:

 

I had two hair jobs. 1 for 2000 grafts 1 yr ago, 1 for 1000 grafts 2 days ago, totalling 3,000 grafts on what I think originally was a Norwood 4 or 5 hair loss. The doctor before my 2nd procedure of 1000 grafts suggested (against my wishes of top front left & top front right and top front 20 percent of my head on my 2nd treatment of only 1000 grafts). He suggested instead that I have those 1000 grafts done further away from the hair line towards the middle top. His reasoning was that the hair would grow from his suggested aread and reach the front.

 

As u know, people are more concerned with the front of any cosmetic surgery or work. Like when u bleach ur teeth for more whiteness, you want the dentist to 1st bleach the top teeth cos that's what most people see, the top set of teeth. Im not sure if the doc suggest this because so that I'd be less than pleased and go back for more grafts sooner or if he did so because based on his experience, it'd be more bang for my buck??? I'm also wondering if it's unethical for him to have chose the former, not the latter. I hope that he placed those grafts in the middle top of my head for more bang for my buck--since I'm on a tight budget.

 

So here are the 2 questions:

 

question #1: You think the hair transplant doc (hair job doc for sake of brevity) planted 1000 grafts in the mid top part of my hair to strategically maximize the amount of grafts which would grow and cover the gaps in the all-important front left & front right and front center of the hair which as I mentioned, is the most visible part than the crown, obviously).???

 

or he did it so that I'd be less than pleased and eager to have more grafts done by him and done sooner? (again, I'm hoping he's bound by some ethics and he chose the 1st one above since I really want to see a big improvement in the all-important, more visible front part of the head).

 

question #2:

I also banged the top of my head against an olympic barbell resting on a bench press stand in my room. I did so cos im on post op medicine 2 days after this 2nd procedure & groggy/clumsy as a result of same.

 

btw---no fresh wet blood occured, but it was a hard enough bump to hurt for 15 minutes. Did I damage any grafts? It shouldn't be a problem, if there was no wet blood oozing from the area into which grafts were transplanted, right? Thanks for any help. I really appreciate the time and help you took in reading this for a fellow person losing their hair who needs added confidence, especially with being such a temporary "loser" with the oppposite sex.

 

 

BACKGROUND INFO. ON ATTACHED PHOTOS:

(the photos of me inside with the bronze type lighting facing head on into the camera is the one before ANY grafts were done)

 

The 2nd photo of me is a profile pic from the side ten (10) months after my 2000 graft procedure.

 

As with a lot of HT graft patients, applying gel and hair spray make the grafts and the hair more visible.

[msullivan777]

what's up 52 views & not 1 of my American/US peeps fellow hair transplant patients/aspiring hair transplant docs/or current hair transplant doctors can' say...SOMETHIN LIKE: "it's unethical for a hair transplant doc to offer/suggest a different location for planting grafts contrary to a patient's original suggestion for the purpose of making the patient unsatisfied so that the patient will return to the doctor soon and for more grafts?"

 

 

AREN'T HAIR TRANSPLANT DOCS BOUND BY THE SAME HIPPOCRATIC OATH OTHER DOCS ADHERE TO, OR THE A.M.A. (AMERICAN MEDICAL ASS'N) NOT TO LIE OR MISLEAD IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE MORE BUSINESS AND FREQUENT BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE.

 

I MEAN I KNOW IT'S COSMETIC SURGERY WHERE THERE ARE MORE SHADY DOCS THAN LET'S SAY A VASCULAR SURGEON OR A CARDIOLOGIST.

 

COME on please at least 2-3 of u should know this.....?

 

please?

 

thanks. i need help on this.....

 

thanks..

[Spanker]

Did he tell you that he was going to put it one place but put it in another?

[msullivan777]

Did he tell you that he was going to put it one place but put it in another?

 

No, he put it where he suggested it....& where he told me he would.

 

As I mentioned, I sort of wanted it in the front (like to the left & right & center right above the forehead) where it's obviously more visible...(that's the 1st thing people see--they don't see or care about hair on top, especially if ur tall like I am and the hot babe u want to get into her pants is a petite chic)

 

Again, he suggested in the middle top part of the head cos the hair would grow and trickle down and eventually reach the all-important front area.

 

That's where he planted those 1000 grafts.

 

"I have too much Testosterone which for my head hair is a bad thing but for everything else might be a good thing" --Mike Sullivan (me)

[Pulpedfiction1]

Your results seem less than desirable. People on this board are more than happy to help, but....

 

When posting, show some patience. Don't complain about your posts going unanswered within a couple of hours--people are busy, and post not out of obligation..but desire to help others in a similar situation to their own. Lose the CAPS, as well. Avoid using "u" and "ur"--this isn't Facebook.

 

That said, who was your doctor? It isn't clear from your posts if you went with the same doc for your 2nd procedure. How extensively did you research before going down the HT route? Your hairline should have been your doctor's first priority.

[msullivan777]

learn some manners and dont be confrontational.

 

who my doc isn't a matter of public info., his rep is on the line

 

it wasn't answered in almost 2 days

 

how did u ever become a veteran member?

 

u sound like a troll....and post a real pic of urself unless u have something to hide

 

i use abbreviations cos unlike u, i have a high i.q. and don't have to spell everything out but instead use my valuable time and resources efficiently

 

facebook has nothing to do with it-

 

dont bother replying cos i simply won't look at the trash u write

[Spanker]

Hard to tell anything with the photo provided. I really doubt that a recommended doctor would do what you are saying, mostly because most of them don't need to. They pretty much all have waiting lists and their reputation is more important than getting another surgery off of someone. It sounds like the two of you didn't have the same vision. 2000 grafts is not a lot of grafts at all for a high Norwood level and your expectations should be tempered to that. Hope the last 1000 gives you more of the hairline you are wanting.

Edited August 25, 2013 by Spanker

[msullivan777]

you're right spanker. he'd have to be a total sleezeball with a smiling face if he did that given the tons of patients he must get also. he has an anti-aging Testosterone/ HgH practice also. I'm sure he wouldn't want an unsatisfied patient especially since I come from a legal background and have kind of given the tone that I'm a type A personality who in all likelihood might "fight for his right" to have a "fair" procedure done. The other "person"/troll who replied to my post contributed nothing, all he wanted it seemed is to find out which doctor I used so he could stay clear from him. That's real selfish behavior. I read him like a cheap 25 cent working man's newspaper, that's how obvious he was/and came across. he's real low class---what do u expect with a low class username like pulpfiction....spanker on the other hand---i hope u spank as many hot single women as possible with a full head of hair that statistically women love to run their fingers thru (if u aren't already married--haha---LoL)

[bunnyman]

Just saw your post. My answer to your Qs (although I am not an American):

 

Q1. I am not able to tell whether you got 1,000 grafts in the mid top part of your head "to cover strategic gaps". The pics you have supplied do not show the work carried out over the past few days. Are you able to post 1 or 2 pics of your head showing the lastest HT work so a more detailed reply/valid opinion can be given? Have you discussed your concerns with your surgeon over the past few days?

 

You said "or he did it so that I'd be less than pleased and eager to have more grafts done by him".

 

My personal view I do not think any HT surgeon would carry out surgical work so that you would be less than pleased and eager to have more grafts done by him. He would be pretty dumb if he did have that view and I am sure he would not be in business for long.

 

Q2. Re hitting your head on weight lifting eqpt after your HT - I am not qualified to answer that, but I too would be interested to hear from someone who is qualified to answer this. Again, have you spoken to your surgeon about this?

Edited August 25, 2013 by bunnyman

[TommyLucchese]

learn some manners and dont be confrontational.

 

who my doc isn't a matter of public info., his rep is on the line

 

it wasn't answered in almost 2 days

 

how did u ever become a veteran member?

 

u sound like a troll....and post a real pic of urself unless u have something to hide

 

i use abbreviations cos unlike u, i have a high i.q. and don't have to spell everything out but instead use my valuable time and resources efficiently

 

facebook has nothing to do with it-

 

dont bother replying cos i simply won't look at the trash u write

 

Wow, time for me to exit the thread.

[Pulpedfiction1]

Yeah, this guy clearly has gone off his meds. Reported the post to the mods, who thus far have done nothing.

[Pulpedfiction1]

It's also pretty damn hilarious how this roid-raging asshole is under the illusion that he's a NW IV.

 

He's also so concerned about hiding the identity of his doc, yet doesnt even realize that he's posted the info RIGHT IN HIS PROFILE

[BrianR]

I think hair is the lest of this dudes problems?

[Bill - Seemiller]

MSullivan,

 

The members of this forum community are here graciously sharing their experiences and answering questions during their free time. Thus, you can't expect an immediate answer to your questions when you post here.

 

Also, your rude responses to our members here are totally inappropriate and uncalled for. If you'd like to retain your posting privileges on this forum, I expect you to be more patient and polite to our veteran members.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

[Bill - Seemiller]

PulpedFiction,

 

Yeah, this guy clearly has gone off his meds. Reported the post to the mods, who thus far have done nothing.

 

Just like MSullivan can't expect immediate answers and should be more polite, you can't expect the moderators to respond immediately. We are not on call 24/7 however, we do typically respond to questions, concerns and reports within 24 hours.

 

Thanks for your patience.

 

Bill

[StaggerLee123]

Yo Mike settle down we are here to help.

 

In the bad old days of transplants, surgeons would do exactly what you are hinting that your surgeon did: do just enough to get the patient to come back for a second and third procedure. I have to question why your Doc would put 1000 grafts into your mid scalp when you obviously need them up front, like you said, in your hairline. I am really surprised that even after insisting he work on your hairline he put them further back. That just doesn't make sense. Where did the first 2000 grafts go? Were they mid scalp also? Did you discuss having a Cesar style haircut where you just comb it forward?

 

You might want to skip the gel as it makes thin hair look thinner and let it dry naturally. That might help and maybe those 1000 grafts will go a long way to getting you some better coverage. Good luck.

[msullivan777]

PulpedFiction,

 

look at the confrontational words he uses "roid rage" this isn't "facebook", and "a-hole" if your indeed a managing editor, u need to reprimand him no matter what his "status" is....Because of the words he uses, he's a miserable person who obviously lost too much hair and is a wimp to show his real face and photos.

 

Just like MSullivan can't expect immediate answers and should be more polite, you can't expect the moderators to respond immediately. We are not on call 24/7 however, we do typically respond to questions, concerns and reports within 24 hours.

 

Thanks for your patience.

 

Bill

look at the confrontational words he uses "roid rage" this isn't "facebook", and "a-hole" if your indeed a managing editor, u need to reprimand him no matter what his "status" is....Because of the words he uses, he's a miserable person who obviously lost too much hair and is a wimp to show his real face and photos.

[msullivan777]

PulpedFiction,

 

 

 

Just like MSullivan can't expect immediate answers and should be more polite, you can't expect the moderators to respond immediately. We are not on call 24/7 however, we do typically respond to questions, concerns and reports within 24 hours.

 

Thanks for your patience.

 

Bill

 

look at the confrontational words he uses "roid rage" this isn't "facebook", and "a-hole" if your indeed a managing editor, u need to reprimand him no matter what his "status" is....Because of the words he uses, he's a miserable person who obviously lost too much hair and is a wimp to show his real face and photos.

[msullivan777]

It's also pretty damn hilarious how this roid-raging asshole is under the illusion that he's a NW IV.

 

He's also so concerned about hiding the identity of his doc, yet doesnt even realize that he's posted the info RIGHT IN HIS PROFILE

 

why did u use "ahole" and "roid rage" to "describe" me?

 

do u have a mental complex cos ur butt ugly beyond repair and hide behind an illusory profile pic? and were bullied at childhood because of ur ugliness at a tender age?

 

u probably, do right and u probably were, right?

 

"butt" btw isn't a cuss word....

 

u can easily lose ur veteran status like u probably lost ur job for being so caustic in ur tone and mannerism.

 

keep being caustic and a jerk (both words, again not "cuss" words but words found in any English dictionary.

 

go rant and rave and get mad on facebook where u belong with an equally illusive fake profile pic to cowardly get away with trying to hurt people's feelings cos u don't have the courage to be a decent person given the obvious trials and tribulations of ur obviously miserable life.

 

In the end, I have the last laugh because everyone can tell that you're a miserable skinny wimp who even with a hair transplant probably has a hook nose and big ears that ur saving up money for....im probably right, aren't i?

 

haha

[bunnyman]

I think this thread has really been started by a young school kid using fake pictures. No normal adult can write such childish things like this on a serious forum. Such language and childish comments does not serve anyone well and only diminishes the whole forum. It has turned into a script from Beavis and Butthead.

 

The moderators, if they wish to maintain the quality, respect and usefulness of this forum, should now close this thread down forthwith.

[BensonTT]

LOL @ thread and op! Op just shave your head. I think it will suit you better then the couple strands of hair you got on top..