Regular Member SRK735 Posted September 12, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted September 12, 2012 Wanted to share my experience with all the folks who are interested in possibly going this route one day. My first post here,however I am active member on the other major hairloss forum,I go by the same username. Anyways,a little about me,suffering with hairloss for about 15 years,diffuse thinner,not a candidate for a hair transplant. Started looking into SMP about 6 months back,been on propecia for about 10 years so my current hair is holding well. My appointment was booked for Sept 7th and 8th at Dr Fellers office in Great Neck,NY. I normally wear my hair long on the side and on the top,and use toppik on a daily basis,after doing tons of research i decided to make this work i would have to crop my hair down to a 1 grade,to give it that natural look. | met Spex,Dr Feller,and a few others who also got work done from Milena Lardi. There was tons of pictures taken by Spex and Dr Feller,I am hoping one of them can chime in and add pictures to this post. Enough of that,first procedure was Friday the 7th which took about 3 hours and the second on Saturday the 8th which took 1 hour. Its day 5 since the last procedure,and my honest take is that I am impressed,my family and friends are impressed. I got a haircut yesterday and my barber oof 20 years did not notice a thing. I would probably need another session to perfect the look,for now things are good,i plan to update monthly pics so I can document any fading,color changing etc. I did have the procedure done on most of the top of my head. Your questions are welcomed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azazelgs Posted September 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 12, 2012 srk735, first of all congrats for your procedure and your head definitely looks a lot better!! spex, Thank you for sharing the pictures they are really helpful. Based on the result , I have some questions. 1- So it looks like TP can create a 3-D illusion event with that low density. So is there a huge difference of applying the procedure to a full blown nw6 and a diffuse thinner even that low density? In my opinion, it does so I just want your opinion. 2- If so , should a full blown nw6 have a fue first then smp in order to have the best look with buzzed rather than razor shaved?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SADbutTRUE Posted September 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 12, 2012 congrats , lookin good , thanks for sharing , i wonder how it will look if you have no hair ,the combo of hair and smp looks very impresive,its like a concelar for a close shaven head , where the current concealers dont work for hair that short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SRK735 Posted September 12, 2012 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 12, 2012 I just wanted to add the hair length in the pics was 2.5 guard,not the best length for this type of hairloss,I just got back from getting my haircut at a 1 guard and the results are astounding,will post pics later on tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member fitnessjunkie Posted September 13, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 13, 2012 Great stuff! Looking forward to the pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member feelzgood Posted September 13, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted September 13, 2012 Very nice! How long does the (ink?) last, and how much was your "procedure"? Also how long (hours/days) does it take from beginning to the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member zenmunk Posted September 13, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 13, 2012 Impressive! Please keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SRK735 Posted September 14, 2012 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 Very nice!How long does the (ink?) last, and how much was your "procedure"? Also how long (hours/days) does it take from beginning to the end? The ink approximately will last for about 2 years,this could vary depending on a number of factors,protecting from the sun,chlorine etc etc. A procedure like this would cost anywhere from $1600 Euros or 2K + Impressive! Please keep us posted. I will post some pics up shortly,the pictures do not do the look justice,I have shaved down to #.50 guard and the change is phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted September 14, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 The post-op images look nice. Thanks for sharing! "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SRK735 Posted September 14, 2012 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) 5 days post session 2 Edited October 15, 2012 by SRK735 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SRK735 Posted September 14, 2012 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) Another one,shaved down to .50 Edited October 15, 2012 by SRK735 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member zenmunk Posted September 14, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 So natural. If you keep it at that length, no one would ever detect it. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SRK735 Posted September 14, 2012 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 So natural. If you keep it at that length, no one would ever detect it. Congrats. Thank you,the feeling is priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member fitnessjunkie Posted September 14, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 Congratulations - the result looks fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted September 14, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 I'm impressed with that. Looks very natural. 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dr. William Lindsey Posted September 14, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 That really is a nice result. Interestingly I had 2 patients come in yesterday asking about SMP and I referred them to this thread. Its important for the facts to get out there about SMP. One of the patients essentially thought you could "tattoo on a full head of hair" based on marketing they had seen elsewhere. SMP will not replace medicine or surgery, but rather is another tool in the armamentarium against hairloss. So far, I think its really ideal for guys like this, scar concealment (Spex is a perfect example), and I'm hopeful that it will offer improvement for both thinning crowns (when there is limited donor hair likely to be used elsewhere) and possibly women. Like any tool, it will have its limitations, you can't saw with a hammer for example, and its exciting to be on the forefront of this new technology. Dr. Lindsey McLean VA William H. Lindsey, MD, FACS McLean, VA Dr. William Lindsey is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member raulbrammin Posted September 14, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) I am very curious about this procedure.. afriend of mine in london has done it and its not looking as favourable on him as I wouldve expected. though your head is looking great with it. Do these tattoos not turn green then because my cousins have crosses on their thumbs and after all these years look quite green , jarring and unsightly ? ! Is there a special ink that can be applied then ? Edited September 14, 2012 by raulbrammin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted September 14, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2012 raul, Milena does not use any blue or green in her pigments, therefore the work will not turn color, just fade and eventually disappear completely. I had the chance to see this result up close and personal (I viewed it with Dr. Feller's magnifiers) and it looks 100% like real stubble. I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azazelgs Posted September 19, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hairthere, Did you see it on a bald head or on the diffuse thinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted September 20, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 20, 2012 azazelgs, I had the chance to see it on both. I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azazelgs Posted September 21, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hairthere, Please share some infoo!!! how does it look on a full blown and on a diffuse thinner ? What are your observations? I have many many questionss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 SRK, Thanks for sharing your experience with SMP and for providing some photos. I see that you are undergoing multiple "sessions" of SMP...I assume this is to obtain the illusion of density you want? How many sessions will you be undergoing in total? What will the total cost be for all sessions? Since this is temporary SMP, rather than permanent, are you planning to keep up with regular procedures every 2 years or so? Given the costs may exceed 2K Euros or 3K American dollars (which I can't ascertain from the above as to whether or not that's per session or total), I assume that an SMP consumer would have to pay 3K plus every 2 years? If that's the case, it seems that the price tag for SMP in the long run will be much higher than even surgical hair restoration. I also have a question about fading, which is open to anyone to answer. Since tattooing from temporary tattoing will eventually disappear, I assume it will fade gradually over time? If so, how long does the fading process take and will it still look natural as it begins to fade? I look forward to learning more. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SRK735 Posted September 26, 2012 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 26, 2012 SRK, Thanks for sharing your experience with SMP and for providing some photos. I see that you are undergoing multiple "sessions" of SMP...I assume this is to obtain the illusion of density you want? How many sessions will you be undergoing in total? What will the total cost be for all sessions? Since this is temporary SMP, rather than permanent, are you planning to keep up with regular procedures every 2 years or so? Given the costs may exceed 2K Euros or 3K American dollars (which I can't ascertain from the above as to whether or not that's per session or total), I assume that an SMP consumer would have to pay 3K plus every 2 years? If that's the case, it seems that the price tag for SMP in the long run will be much higher than even surgical hair restoration. I also have a question about fading, which is open to anyone to answer. Since tattooing from temporary tattoing will eventually disappear, I assume it will fade gradually over time? If so, how long does the fading process take and will it still look natural as it begins to fade? I look forward to learning more. Best wishes, Bill Bill, You bring up some valid points,i have currently gone through 2 sessions, would probably need another session to get it looking like how I want it to look. I believe the 3K US dollars would be for the start to finish price for the one procedure depending how many sessions it would take to get the look. Paying 3K every 2 years is a bit much to be honest,however my hope is that Milena Lardi from Beauty Medical will come up with some sort of permanent solution in the next couple of years,also hoping there is more stories of success from permanent SMP clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member zenmunk Posted September 27, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 27, 2012 It is a bit steep. It comes down to saving around $125 per month for two years. Then again, I paid close to $90 per month for propecia for many years, so I guess where there's a will, there's a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Davis91 Posted September 27, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 27, 2012 Temporary SMP can fade as early as 1 year. 3 K per year over say a 30 year period...90K! A high quality rug might cost the same over an equivalent period...an NW6 HT strip 2 procedures maybe 30K over a 2 year period and done...FUE 6 K grafts maybe 45-60K.... Bottom line is the market will support temporary SMP at a REASONABLE price. People want 2 things: safe ink; and the option to go back to normal if they don't like it. Come on Docs....be reasonable. If you offer this, bottom line is a tech or specialist is doing the inking...materials cost should be reasonable...lets keep it real here. strip scars should be in the hundreds range and full head in the very LOW thousand at most. I would love to see the economic justification for anything further than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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