Dr. Umar

[cardel25]

Hi. I want to state some of the things that others have mentioned. If you want to restore some of your lost hair finasterid and minoxidil is the first options you should use. Please look at my profile and se how much hair i restored with those products + the rest of the things that are listed in my signature.

I was told by many that i was not a candidate for hair transplant but i ended up only needing 2700 grafts to get a very good density and a full head of hair. So like you i had severe hair loss but i think that yours is worse than mine were. But you still have some hair. You have all the characterics that could give a very good result from those products beeing young and having lost a lot of hair.

I think that if you havent tried this then your plan to undergo such a huge procedure is to say it mild not a smart thing to do.

 

I have seen some of Umar?s huge sessions not in person but on pictures. I think that when using a high number of body hairs your hair would look artificial and it would be quite obvious you had a hair transplant. I dont like the look of any of the huge cases i have seen from him.

 

If i were you i would start on minoxidil and finasterid and then reevaluate in 8-10 months time. Then if your situation have improved i would see if there was enough grafts in your donor region to get a full head of hair. I would try oral minoxidil. If not i would simply shave my head to see if i could settle with that. If that doesnt work you could think about this plan again.

 

This plan should only be your last resort.

[cardel25]

Hi RodG,

 

thanks for your questions. As for the cost, I will be able to tell you by next week. Back up, he told me that the best available donor would be used for my transplants. Whatever is left can be used in the future. Given my density and coverage needs, choice hair should not be spared in anticipation of surgery 5 years down the road. I have plenty body hair that may hopefully serve me in the future.

 

I am expecting not to look bald. You see I started wearing the hair system at age 21, I went to many hair replacement places and they said you have hair, its a shame and unethical for us to shave your head. However I was young and stupid and went and did with another place. Aaron, thank you for pushing with propecia, I will go buy it today. I just came back from my hair replacement place and realised how much thin hair i have left. I hope with trying the propecia I wll be able to keep them and with two surgeries of 15000 - 20000 grafts get my hair back. My expectation as I have said before is not to look bald and with the little hair that i have and with a mega session I think I will achieve the density than others in norwood 6 and in strangers eyes, I will have hair.. dont you agree? thats what i am hoping for at least?

 

I saw a video of 20000 grafts done by Dr Umar but they guy was completely bald and he got a great result - I have more hair than him so with 20000 grafts I will be happy if i get better result than him

 

Aaron all your points are valid and thank you again for bring up the propecia.

 

 

Please also use minoxidil. You can buy a generic version called Kirkland its very cheap. U can also buy the original product rogaine. U can get finasterid cheaper aswell you can but proscar instead of propecia and cut them to quarters that qould save you a ortune. Lots of people do that from this forum. You can just search for the names here and there will pop up a lot of post?s. If you get a good result from those products you would not need anything close to 20,000 grafts. Not everybody gets a good result from those products but if you did i think that taking whatever grafts there is available only in your donor region would make a major improvement. But please keep us updated with your progress.

[wylie]

If there is one doctor in the world I would trust to cover that much real estate, it is Dr. Umar. It is going to be a long, labor intensive job to provide that much coverage and Dr. Umar is a perfectionist who does all the work himself. You have chosen the best doctor at FUE there is. Since you have all your scalp donor untouched you will get a completely natural looking hairline, guaranteed. I can say this because using nape, beard, and extremely limited scalp donor Dr. Umar built a hairline from scratch to repair previous sub-standard work, and over a year later I'm still amazed by the result. Could anyone else have done it? Probably not, and definitely not in the United States.

 

You sound like you've done your homework and you've definitely chosen the right doctor. Whatever your choice, I wish you the best of luck.

[Ryan123]

Hi all,

 

Just a quick update, Dr. Umar and I are still talking about the number of grafts and how we are going to do it. he has asked for me to let me grow my hair to 3 cm long and he will be able to decide, I will need to coordinate with my hair replacement center and grow it so I can finalised the decision.

 

I know most of you have recommends propocia. I have informed Dr.Umar about it and he said that that proscar, finasteride, propecia, avodart, dutasteride have the potential for diminishing beard and body hair growth. If he transplants these to the scalp, there is the possibility that these drugs could diminish yield and inhibit hair growth. They are however good for promoting growth of head hair alone. So he said for the purpose of this procedure where we would be relying heavily on beard and body hair, I should stop proscar. So aaron looks like I need to throw the proscar that i bought.

 

About the body hair survival, I thought I would share this with all of you, he said that from all his patients he has seen the growth sustained. If your beard and body hair were not going to fall out from the beard and body location in 2 years, the same hair would not fall off in 2 years because it has been relocated to the head. If it was going to fall in its original body or beard location, then it would fall in its new location. The take home message is, beard and body hair would not change their character after they have been transferred to the head. They remain as they were in their original location.

 

So basically, I think I am almost ready to go on the journey of 2 megasession of 7000- 8500 grafts (total 15000 to 17000) in period of hopefully 3 to 4 months and then cut my hair short so I dont look bald and live happily or am i still living in lala land?

[aaron1234]

Ryan, I wouldn't be so quick to sign up. I know I was giving you some hope with some of my prior posts, but TC17 and Jotronic's words should not be taken lightly either. I think there is some value in Dr. Umar's approach but you should look into other great clinics in person first (SMG, Rahal, H&W, Feller, etc.).

 

The yield from a 2K graft strip procedure will probably give you more density then 4K body hair grafts. I would personally strip out first and then consider FUE and BHT. But if you are totally against strip then I guess FUE/BHT is your only choice.

 

Also, you should not be doing two megasessions within 3-4 months of each other. Period! Too much trauma for the scalp in too short of time. I would wait at least 1 year between procedures to make sure the first one worked out before going another round. And also to be able to tell what areas need to be addressed.

 

Look, I'm not denying that Dr. Umar can do some good with FUE/BHT. But I do question the wisdom with doing two large procedures that close together.

 

On the finasteride front, the reduction of body hair is not a certainty. But the maintaining of your current pattern is almost a certainty. I think maintaining the hair on your head is more important then maintaining the hair on your chest.

 

Be patient with this and do your homework. You're only 27!

Edited August 30, 2011 by aaron1234

[Blake Bloxham]

Ryan,

 

Aaron brings up a very valid point; you probably should consider several consultations to review your case before scheduling surgery.

 

To review our recommended hair transplant surgeons and schedule a possible consultation, click here.

 

Good luck!

[Ryan123]

HI Aaron,

 

thank you for sharing your knowledge with me.

 

As for the other doctors, I have seen few and face to face consultation ( I will do more ofcourse, thinking of meeting Bisanga in Brussel). Most doctors told me that this a big area to be covered and they do max 3500 grafts in one session and they stop so the reason I went to Dr. umar was that he aims for the highest number and then he stops, so hopefully 7500 in the first sessions.

 

I heard that the yield from strip is higher than FUE but I also did some research saying that if the doctor is specialist in FUE then the results should be the same. am I wrong on this? Therefore ofcourse I prefere FUE as I would to have a scar on my back.

 

In the first two surgeries, I will be using all my donor head hair first, mixed a little bit with bh, hoever once I run out of donor then will go mostly to the beard and body. To be frank I think it is wise to use all my head hair first.

 

For the two surgeries, Ofourse the time gap is too little, but most doctors that I have seen told me that in 3 - 4 months, you should be 100% healed or maybe they are being too positive. Ofcourse if i go back after 3 or 4 months and still my head is not read for the second session, I hope the doctor will advise me to wait.

 

About addressing the hairloss, the two surgeries are being concetranted on two different areas, first will be the front and second would be the crown area.

 

Aaron thanks again, to be frank i am not taking anyone comments lightly specially TC17 and Jotrnoics. I am 27 and I d like to have hair at this age, the only advantage is that I have plenty of time before i decide 100% to go for the surgery.

 

I will once I am conviced and definiately you guys will be the first to know of my final decision.

 

Thanks

[Sparky]

"I heard that the yield from strip is higher than FUE but I also did some research saying that if the doctor is specialist in FUE then the results should be the same. am I wrong on this? Therefore ofcourse I prefere FUE as I would to have a scar on my back."

 

No I don't think your wrong in that, not in my experience anyway, if I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't want the scar on the back of my head, fue causing scarring of course, but in the right hands you won't ever see them.

[aaron1234]

As for the other doctors, I have seen few and face to face consultation ( I will do more ofcourse, thinking of meeting Bisanga in Brussel). Most doctors told me that this a big area to be covered and they do max 3500 grafts in one session and they stop so the reason I went to Dr. umar was that he aims for the highest number and then he stops, so hopefully 7500 in the first sessions.

 

I think 3500 grafts via strip would be a great first step for you. 7500 grafts via scalp FUE wouldn't be making the best of your donor region to be honest. Again, if you didn't like the scar THEN you could go do Dr. Umar to put some beard/body hair in it - which he seems to do quite often and well.

 

I heard that the yield from strip is higher than FUE but I also did some research saying that if the doctor is specialist in FUE then the results should be the same. am I wrong on this? Therefore ofcourse I prefere FUE as I would to have a scar on my back.

 

Strip yield is generally higher then FUE - so that's why I'd go for the more reliable thing first. You are right that a FUE could be done well by a specialist - but if it contains a lot of body hair then this makes less of a cosmetic impact.

 

In the first two surgeries, I will be using all my donor head hair first, mixed a little bit with bh, hoever once I run out of donor then will go mostly to the beard and body. To be frank I think it is wise to use all my head hair first.

 

Definitely wise to use head hair first. I just think strip is the best place to start for major cases. Again, regarding scarring it is up to you.

 

For the two surgeries, Ofourse the time gap is too little, but most doctors that I have seen told me that in 3 - 4 months, you should be 100% healed or maybe they are being too positive. Ofcourse if i go back after 3 or 4 months and still my head is not read for the second session, I hope the doctor will advise me to wait.

 

Well, even if you are 100% healed you should wait a full year to see how the growth is to determine what area should be treated in the next surgery. Even if the two surgeries are focusing on two different areas it is wise to see how the first one grows out.

 

Aaron thanks again, to be frank i am not taking anyone comments lightly specially TC17 and Jotrnoics. I am 27 and I d like to have hair at this age, the only advantage is that I have plenty of time before i decide 100% to go for the surgery.

 

No problem man. Glad to help! We would all like hair at 27! I mean, that should be a given right? I just want you to take the best route possible to get it! Definitely keep us posted.

[Sparky]

If your worried about the scar, don't get strip first. Get a smaller "test" session of fue to see how well it grows, if it grows very well, then fue, if it doesn't then think about doing strip. Some people don't mind the scar, but if there is any doubt about it in your mind, don't rush into anything.

[azazelgs]

As a young man (25) and going through as same hair loss level as you , my advice to you is that you should consult with megasession experts like Dr.Rahal or Dr.Hasson.

 

Go see them and if they think they you are a good candidate (unless you go for nw7 and donor thinning,you are) , go max out your strip grafts. I have a feeling that you haven't done your research enough that they have "life changing" results with higher nw levels. Most importantly, they are considered as one of the most ethical and honest doctors out there.

 

Then, if you are still not satisfied , take your chance with fue. Dr. Umar has some great results but I have to agree to most people that body hair is definately not same as head hair. And if you start with strip , you don't loose your fue donors but if you start with fue , you decrease your donor density.

 

Thirdly, you should check out scalp pigmentation. I honestly don't think it's a good idea to tattoo your whole head, especially the hairline but after few ht's , it can act like permanent toppik to give some density. But most importantly, I believe it's a great way to hide the scar.

 

Hey , I told you my plan about my hairloss:)) But most important issue is that I think you should start your journey/research with Dr.Rahal or H&W. They are the best in the world with dealing such advanced hairloss.

[wylie]

I definitely think it would be a mistake to start with someone other than Dr. Umar because you essentially limit the effectiveness of his work if you allow someone else to use up your resources and commit you to a hairline design of their making. I mention this because that is a mistake I made myself, although i hedged my bets and didnt let the other doctor frame a new hairline. Instead I did a BH test session that ended up wasting both donor and money, neither of which i had an excess of. I just did a 2200 graft scalp beard mixture yesterday, and from that we were able to shrink a level VI scalp to a small bald spot. I am only hoping this round turns out as good as the first round did which is when he did my hairline, which exceeded my expectations. My only regret thus far is I did not start my repair journey with him from the beginning. Whether it is repair or blending multiple sources for extensive coverage my research over the past 4 years has made me think Dr. Umar is in a league of his own, a pioneer in this field. And that is in no way meant to diminish the incredible results ive seen from Hasson and Wong, the leaders in extensive coverage using strip. If you do decide to go with a mega session I would advise you start with Dr. Umar, as I wish I had of. Good luck in your journey.

[Ryan123]

Hi Wylie

 

Thank you for your kind comments. I have no doubt and you are right Dr. Umar is one of the greatest out there.

 

Do you have any before and after picture? I also clicked on your hairloss website and it directed me to Dr. Umars clinic website???!!!!

[cardel25]

As a young man (25) and going through as same hair loss level as you , my advice to you is that you should consult with megasession experts like Dr.Rahal or Dr.Hasson.

 

Go see them and if they think they you are a good candidate (unless you go for nw7 and donor thinning,you are) , go max out your strip grafts. I have a feeling that you haven't done your research enough that they have "life changing" results with higher nw levels. Most importantly, they are considered as one of the most ethical and honest doctors out there.

 

Then, if you are still not satisfied , take your chance with fue. Dr. Umar has some great results but I have to agree to most people that body hair is definately not same as head hair. And if you start with strip , you don't loose your fue donors but if you start with fue , you decrease your donor density.

 

Thirdly, you should check out scalp pigmentation. I honestly don't think it's a good idea to tattoo your whole head, especially the hairline but after few ht's , it can act like permanent toppik to give some density. But most importantly, I believe it's a great way to hide the scar.

 

Hey , I told you my plan about my hairloss:)) But most important issue is that I think you should start your journey/research with Dr.Rahal or H&W. They are the best in the world with dealing such advanced hairloss.

 

This is without doubt the best advice. Combine it with starting propecia and minoxidil and you would save a lot of money and get a much better result. Im not saying that Umar isnt a great surgeon just that Rahal and H&W are better and that body hairs wont give an optimal appereance,

[cardel25]

I definitely think it would be a mistake to start with someone other than Dr. Umar because you essentially limit the effectiveness of his work if you allow someone else to use up your resources and commit you to a hairline design of their making. I mention this because that is a mistake I made myself, although i hedged my bets and didnt let the other doctor frame a new hairline. Instead I did a BH test session that ended up wasting both donor and money, neither of which i had an excess of. I just did a 2200 graft scalp beard mixture yesterday, and from that we were able to shrink a level VI scalp to a small bald spot. I am only hoping this round turns out as good as the first round did which is when he did my hairline, which exceeded my expectations. My only regret thus far is I did not start my repair journey with him from the beginning. Whether it is repair or blending multiple sources for extensive coverage my research over the past 4 years has made me think Dr. Umar is in a league of his own, a pioneer in this field. And that is in no way meant to diminish the incredible results ive seen from Hasson and Wong, the leaders in extensive coverage using strip. If you do decide to go with a mega session I would advise you start with Dr. Umar, as I wish I had of. Good luck in your journey.

 

You honour H&W for their good strip surgerys. I would ask you to take a look at this users pictures. There is a good chance that if he starts propecia and minoxidil that he could manage with only head hair. In that case it would be a big mistake promoting dr Umar like you do. I understand that you only say in your post that he is the master of blending different sorts of hair ( i dont think hes the best in the world for that but thats a different discussion). In this context i think that your promotion will only get OP to think that he should go on with dr Umar which in his case could be a huge mistake.

 

I also think that dr Umar isnt a very ethical man if he can propose 20.000 grafts surgery to OP if he havent adviced him to use finasterid and minoxidil.

Edited September 25, 2011 by cardel25

[azazelgs]

This is without doubt the best advice. Combine it with starting propecia and minoxidil and you would save a lot of money and get a much better result. Im not saying that Umar isnt a great surgeon just that Rahal and H&W are better and that body hairs wont give an optimal appereance,

 

 

Thank you!!

 

Actually, while I was writing , I think I found my own path if I'm going to do this:)

 

While I respect Umar's work and his repair cases where he literaly give people their lives back, I really don't think he is not a good way to start. After maxing out with great surgeons like Rahal or H&W , he can always get his 20,000 grafts after.

 

I have a hate-love relationship with HT industry these days. While it can give amazing results to high level baldness (Jotronic, Falc , Nicnitro and many more), the scar is really annoying. However , I still believe that it's the best way to start and I have never seen anyone regret for going to those clinics. Also, the only way you want to get rid of the scar is for to buzz your hair and I really think fue and SMP is a great way to do this.

 

So Ryan, I'm not an old wise guy ,just a regular one that is on the same boat as you. But I've been in this forum for 2 years now and researched a lot. My advice to you is that you should check out Rahal and H&W. I think there will be no harm for you to start with them since I've never seen a single complaint or regret for picking them.

[wylie]

You honour H&W for their good strip surgerys. I would ask you to take a look at this users pictures. There is a good chance that if he starts propecia and minoxidil that he could manage with only head hair. In that case it would be a big mistake promoting dr Umar like you do. I understand that you only say in your post that he is the master of blending different sorts of hair ( i dont think hes the best in the world for that but thats a different discussion). In this context i think that your promotion will only get OP to think that he should go on with dr Umar which in his case could be a huge mistake.

 

I also think that dr Umar isnt a very ethical man if he can propose 20.000 grafts surgery to OP if he havent adviced him to use finasterid and minoxidil.

 

I'm not "promoting" anyone, and you are wrong if you don't think Dr. Umar is ethical. I know the difference between ethical and unethical in this industry as this aint my first rodeo. I have now dealt with Dr. Umar for the past 2 years and if he was not ethical, I'd of realized it.

 

I cannot speak to the plan Dr. Umar has for this patient. He just did a session on me on Friday of 2200 grafts and told me my first available opportunity for an additional session should be a minimum of 10 months. I don't pretend to know exactly what plan he has in store for someone of his level of balding, or what sources he intends to use, and what his timetable is. But the fact is I trust his judgement based on his results.

 

My own personal opinion is that minoxidil and finasteride helps you keep the hair you have rather than grow hair you don't have, that's why I think the promotion of this is really just a waste of time and money for someone at his Norwood level. Someone who has less hair loss may experience some regrowth, but would a combination of both make an appreciable difference? I really don't think it would.

 

Anyway, my .02, one can take it or leave it.

[wylie]

Hi Wylie

 

Thank you for your kind comments. I have no doubt and you are right Dr. Umar is one of the greatest out there.

 

Do you have any before and after picture? I also clicked on your hairloss website and it directed me to Dr. Umars clinic website???!!!!

 

I have pre-Umar pictures when my hair was a disaster, and since he is in charge of my repair I just added a link to his website. My head presently is covered in scabs but I plan on taking pictures as this latest surgery progresses, and will update my profile when my hair begins to grow. Check back in 2 weeks for the latest.

[cardel25]

I'm not "promoting" anyone, and you are wrong if you don't think Dr. Umar is ethical. I know the difference between ethical and unethical in this industry as this aint my first rodeo. I have now dealt with Dr. Umar for the past 2 years and if he was not ethical, I'd of realized it.

 

I cannot speak to the plan Dr. Umar has for this patient. He just did a session on me on Friday of 2200 grafts and told me my first available opportunity for an additional session should be a minimum of 10 months. I don't pretend to know exactly what plan he has in store for someone of his level of balding, or what sources he intends to use, and what his timetable is. But the fact is I trust his judgement based on his results.

 

My own personal opinion is that minoxidil and finasteride helps you keep the hair you have rather than grow hair you don't have, that's why I think the promotion of this is really just a waste of time and money for someone at his Norwood level. Someone who has less hair loss may experience some regrowth, but would a combination of both make an appreciable difference? I really don't think it would.

 

Anyway, my .02, one can take it or leave it.

 

I am a living proof that finasterid can regrow hair and minoxdil can too. It regrows hair in 4 out of 10. I cant remember in how many cases finasterid regrows hair but is also a good number. I advice you to get your facts right before giving advice about something. Please take a look at the pictures at my profile then you can see the dramatic change that meds have given me. I was a NW5 pre meds and changed to a NW3a after. Because OP is young and already is a high NW level there is a very good chance he can regrow a lot of hair. If he was 20 years older i would say that the chances was minimal.

 

It could be that Umar is ethical in this case aswell then he just doenst know how minoxidil and finasterid works like you. I would think that thats just as bad.

 

To OP research research and research. You have been getting a lot of advice in this tread that you should reconsider the value of.

[Ryan123]

Hi Wylie,

 

Cant wait for your pictures. and it would be great for this community if you posted your before pictures aswell.

 

Cardel 25, I agree with most of the things you are saying and yes research research. I am super glad that minox or prophecia has worked greatly on you and I am sure it continues. In mycase I cant use prophecia or any sort of drugs because it will effect the growth of beard and body hair since I have limited donor I do not wish to risk it. Anyways some might say that still better to use the drugs and do a strip - but I have just given up on all sort of drugs as I spent so much money from age 19 - 23 with no results.

 

Its a shame that Dr. hasson doesnt do FUE but I dont think i can live with a scar. To be frank this is just me.

 

Again thank you for reminding me on Dr. rahal and Hasson. I am under no circumstances going for a strip, rather be bald than have a scar. I have already emailed Dr. Rahal so hope I can get some good news. I also saw that you mentioned that you dont think Dr. Umar is master of blending different sorts of hair. Would you be kind enough and give your opinion on who you think is the best? if you wish you can PM me. I would really appreciate it

 

As for my personal experience with Dr. Umar, I dont think him recommending mega sessions is unethical since my case is severe. Many good names have rejected me (dr. farjo) just because they do not do mega sessions and they think I would need 10000 or even 15000 so I am happy Dr. Umar offers mega sessions.

 

I have been researching everyday to find an unhappy client for Dr. Umar. Looks like they have been some critisim in year 2008 or 2009 however nothing post 2010. or am i doing something wrong?

 

Anyways he has suggested below.

 

Option 1.

1. 8000 grafts (max) for frontal

2. 8000 grafts (max) for crown after 6 months

 

Option 2.

1. 8000 grafts for both frontal and crown

2. 8000 Grafts for both frotnal and crown after 10 months or one year

 

However the numbers are not confirmed yet since he has requested me to grow my hair for past three weeks and he will be able to asses more accurate figures. I will get the exact numbers aftert he week

 

Will keep you all posted.

Thanks

[wylie]

Hi Wylie,

 

Cant wait for your pictures. and it would be great for this community if you posted your before pictures aswell.

 

Cardel 25, I agree with most of the things you are saying and yes research research. I am super glad that minox or prophecia has worked greatly on you and I am sure it continues. In mycase I cant use prophecia or any sort of drugs because it will effect the growth of beard and body hair since I have limited donor I do not wish to risk it. Anyways some might say that still better to use the drugs and do a strip - but I have just given up on all sort of drugs as I spent so much money from age 19 - 23 with no results.

 

 

 

Ryan, I will post pictures as this grows in. I know I'm going to need another pass but I am getting closer to normal. I am not discounting that drugs work for some people and if you think they will restore what you are after, fine. I mentioned that I had my doubts and someone chimed in that I didn't know what I was talking about. Fair enough. I'm not an expert on finasteride and minoxidil and have my doubts on the efficacy of both on someone of your Norwood level. I'm not suggesting you get a HT over trying meds, either, as you know the option exists that if you don't get the results you are after using those two meds then you can quit using them and I don't think your donor will be adversely affected. Perhaps a trial run on both would be a good first move.

 

My only reason for commenting is that I don't recommend switching horses in the middle of the race, if a strip surgeon is not going to give you the yield and density you are after then I wouldn't visit them, I would start out with the surgeon who can give you the results you are after without someone else depleting your donor. I made that mistake, and many others I might add, and my advice is always geared towards helping those people to not repeat them.

 

Either way, PM me if I can be of any other help. Cheers.

[azazelgs]

Ryan, I will post pictures as this grows in. I know I'm going to need another pass but I am getting closer to normal. I am not discounting that drugs work for some people and if you think they will restore what you are after, fine. I mentioned that I had my doubts and someone chimed in that I didn't know what I was talking about. Fair enough. I'm not an expert on finasteride and minoxidil and have my doubts on the efficacy of both on someone of your Norwood level. I'm not suggesting you get a HT over trying meds, either, as you know the option exists that if you don't get the results you are after using those two meds then you can quit using them and I don't think your donor will be adversely affected. Perhaps a trial run on both would be a good first move.

 

My only reason for commenting is that I don't recommend switching horses in the middle of the race, if a strip surgeon is not going to give you the yield and density you are after then I wouldn't visit them, I would start out with the surgeon who can give you the results you are after without someone else depleting your donor. I made that mistake, and many others I might add, and my advice is always geared towards helping those people to not repeat them.

 

Either way, PM me if I can be of any other help. Cheers.

 

 

 

I don't think that would be switching horses at all, it would be just to route he takes.

 

I'm in no way of not suggesting Dr.Umar , as I stated earlier he really gave amazing results with his repair works. But if Ryan starts with Rahal or H&W and max out his strip donor , Dr. Umar would love to do his additional work since he can still give 20,000 grafts that he claimed. Again , not to offend but it would be greater result. Umar seems like he challanges himself in very difficult cases and I am sure he can do his best with someone who came for additional density with a good result. Just my 2 cents.

 

 

PS:Wylie, I am sorry that your previous went bad for you and I think you choose one of the best doctors for repair surgeries. I only insist Ryan to consult with those clinics is that I have never seen someone who regret going there. I still say that he can go to Dr. Umar after he maxes out his strip and I'm sure he'll get a good result with Umar afterwards.

Edited September 26, 2011 by azazelgs

[Ryan123]

Hello Friends,

 

Its been few weeks since I last wrote on this particular forum. I would like to firstly thank all of you for being honest with me and sharing your reserach and expereince with me. If it wasnt for you people, I would have probably been butchered.

 

My option is still with Dr. Umar, I am seeing him coming December for a consultation face to face as I need to be 100% sure with what I am getting myself into. I have been however consulting and researching with different surgeons out there, I will keep you all posted once I have solid answer. The way I see it is that research and finding the doctor is 90% of getting my hair back.

 

I have uploaded a new album and shows my hair 1.5 inch long. Please note that I have shaved the edges as I wear a hair piece. Please feel free to give me your opinion about the new pictures.

 

I am on proscar now, taking 1.25mg on daily basis thanks to people recommending on this forum. I have not yet seen any side effects or cosmetic changes> too early anways but I feel I will benefit.

 

I would like to share an expereince with all of you. when I started wearing a hairprice, I was only 22 years old, I had lots of hair on my head norwood 3 max, I am sure I could have pulled off with short hair but Id rather went and shaved my head and wore a hair peice becasue the sales man was only thinking about his commission. Last week when I was at my service in the salon, I saw someone 21 years old for hair peice consultation and the person had so much hair on his head. He was just desperate becasue he had lost a bit of hair. I waited outside the Saloon for him to finish and I think I managed to change his mind about the hair piece and clamed him down. I wish I never wore a hairpeice, even though it has helped me a lot with my love life but at the end its not my hair and I had LOTs of hair. I persoanlly think that hair peice is good for people at norwood 5 to 7 level. for the people who are at norwood 2 or 3 please do NOT wear a hairpiece.

 

Anyways I am planning to continue wearing my hair pience untill I do a hair trasnplant regardless of how long it takes. Please look at my new pictures and tell me what you guys think.

 

Appreciatite your responses and wish you all the best

 

Ryan

[Brazilian111111]

 

Ryan, I will post pictures as this grows in...

 

Hi Wylie. I have already posted this same (or almost the same) text as a comment in one of your photos.

 

With the photos you posted it is difficult to evaluate. I am not sure whether the newest photos are not showing your real progress or your hairline procedure almost made no difference.

 

By looking the pre-Umar photos and now, it is even reasonable saying that the before pictures show a better head (that's why I am thinking the photos are not showing the reality).

 

Is it possible to upload more clear and zoomed photos or maybe a link to a sharing photo website where we can see it zoomed? Thanks and sorry if my words don't sound encouraging.

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[fightingbaldness]

There is A big difference between shaving your head and being bald or shaving your head but having some sort of hairline and coverage. Not only physically but mentally as well id be a lot more confident having hair. And if i were to have A HT i love my hair real short anyway i have a like 0.5 at the sides and a bit longer on top to have a bit of a hairstyle. I would deffo go with Umar if i had the money to get enough hair up top and id just wear it short at like a grade 1. But to me even though it would be so short anyway i would deffo spend the money and prefer it to being bald. I would also definately consider micro pigmentation to give a bit of density to it. COuld you please inbox me how much 20,000 grafts with umar would cost? i know he gives discounts if u share your photos etc.

Thanks.