Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted January 8, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted January 8, 2008 Seriously I appreciate you guys trying this stuff. You never know . Ive saved thousands of dollars from guys trying stuff Most recently keracyte, I hope it helps you guys and I can finally buy something besides ths BIG 3 that actually works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rick055 Posted January 8, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted January 8, 2008 No problem and I'll do the same thing Matt is. I'll post results. I ordered my first bottle yesterday and got shipping confirmation. 1.25 mg finasteride EOD Rogaine Foam 5% QD am Kirkland minoxidil 5% QD pm Nizoral Q2W American Crew Revitalize Shampoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Gangster Posted January 27, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted January 27, 2008 ... Google up dermacrine and go to the site and look at the product called toco-8. This is not a snake oil company and they have a pretty good reputation at anabolicminds.com... I did that- and I just placed an order today. Thanks for the info, Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted January 27, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted January 27, 2008 Ordered a batch. ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted January 29, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted January 29, 2008 I'd love to hear feedback from a PHD, especially a coalition doctor for tha matter. I hope this stuff is legit! If not add it to the list of garbage.. I'll be praying for you guys ( i'm not religious but for hair I am haha) JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt Skiba Posted January 29, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted January 29, 2008 Oh hey, if anyone does decide to go ahead and order it you can type in the coupon code of MVC10 and save 10 bucks. I just found that out cruising the old bodybuilding forums... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Gangster Posted January 30, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted January 30, 2008 I just got my Toco-8 and tried it mixed with some water. Not much taste. That's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member vincehair Posted February 1, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hey Matt Skiba #2 you need to share your wealth of hair knowledge with all 3 members of alkaline trio.They all have terrible hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Gangster Posted February 18, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted February 18, 2008 Anybody else here taking their Toco-8 twice a day like I am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted February 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted February 19, 2008 I have mine, but I have yet to start; my goal is begin usage on Monday. ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Gangster Posted February 28, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted February 28, 2008 I've been using this (2X a day) for about a month now and I "think" that my hairloss has increased a little- but I know that that's probably a good sign and I'm gonna keep taking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt Skiba Posted March 1, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted March 1, 2008 I think it might be important to state that if you're taking a normal multi-vitamin the d-alpha tocopherol form of vitamin E in it might block the tocotrienol forms of vitamin E found in toco-8 Also I have read people stating that a sesamin oil supplement might possibly improve the bio-availability and absorption of tocotrienols. I've been taking the supplement irregularly, generally whenever I have a protein shake so it's something like once every other day, on top of that I already use dr. lee's xandrox minoxidil so I can't say if it does anything for my hair or not, hell as of recently I am actually perfectly content with the head of hair I have, especially now that it's really starting to grow out over my head, as long as I keep my hair long there is absolutely no sign of recession or thinning whatsoever. I just hope it stays like this for the rest of my 20s. Toco-8 is also supposed to take something like at least 5 months to see any results, much like any other hair loss product. Gangster, tell me have you actually noticed any positive impact on libido or more energy or any other sort of health benefit since you've been taking the stuff? Good luck! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hoping Posted March 1, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 1, 2008 I haven't been on the site for a while but reading this thread I note a bunch of newer members. This all sounds like total poppycock to me. A patent doesn't give credibility, merely legal protection. Its too easy to have one guy create a number of aliases and then posting to himself to make it seem like he is promoting a legitimate product. This board has always been better than that and should beware this garbage posting imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt Skiba Posted March 2, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2008 I assure you that I do not work for any company or have any sort of agenda whatsoever, I can also assure you that I am not making extra aliases and I do have a bit of a history on this forum. If you've noticed, most people who have replied to this thread have at least 20 or so unrelated posts to them, the guy with the lowest post count actually posted something negative towards what I was saying. Also keep in mind, I've never completely urged people to buy the product, and I never even said that I'm 100% sure it works. The stuff is very new, so no one can really know whether the stuff works or not for sure yet, I just thought it might be interesting to find out. I for one would never take up the job of spending the time to make alternate aliases and then going as far as to make legitimate unrelated posts to boost the seeming credibility of my posts, I believe that my time is worth more than that. I am not trying to promote anything, I'm just trying to make people aware that such products are being marketed, look at the wikipedia article on tocotrienols: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocotrienol It doesn't seem totally illegitimate to me. I have also read on other hair loss forums that a combination of resveratrol and curcumin could have possible benefits. In the end though, I don't really care what you think of my posts, each to his own. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Gangster Posted March 2, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted March 2, 2008 Really? Damn. My multi has "d-Alpha Tocopheryl Succinate/Acetate" in it. You think that could be a problem? I take a lot of supplements (fish oil, BCAAs, Polyphenols, protein powders, fat burner, greens...) so it's hard to tell what does what. I'm just hoping to see some new hair growth in about 4 more months! Thanks for the reply and thanks for letting us know about Toco. At the very least it looks like a pretty powerful anti-oxidant. So don't sweat the haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hoping Posted March 2, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2008 Save it Matt. I don't know why you are being allowed to promote your scam product on this board but if I were moderator, you and this thread would be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hoping Posted March 2, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2008 I hate to say it but a good number of people on this forum are like sheep not willing to think outside of the box, and to top it off they also talk out of their asses. ROFLMAO. You're a classic Yahoo type spammer. Get the hell off our board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hoping Posted March 2, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2008 don't you think men have always hated being bald and they have been throwing bucko-bucks at this research for the past 18 years as well?they may never find a cure for baldness, cancer, or aids. I agree this matt guy is nothing but a spammer, but there is the possibility of a cure in the future. Something to do with Gene therapy and injecting the same into the scalp which effects hair follicles. A cure could be only a few years away. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hoping Posted March 2, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2008 a close relative of mine died from cancer. there were all kinds of bull shit ads appealing to one's desperate desire to extend their life and even be cured. these 'clinics' offered vitamins, juices and other bull $hit concoctions that they claimed 'cured cancer'...total hippie bull$hit. by the way they were mainly operating in Third World Countries. I just had a longtime friend die of cancer. He found a lump in his chest and the specialist recommended surgery to get the cancer out as his only chance. My friend was convinced by the quacks that doctors and Western medicine were in it only for the money and there was a conspiracy from Western Medicine to prevent him from knowing the truth. So he opted for alternative medicine and supplements. As the tumors spread he finally realized it was a mistake, but by then surgery was no longer an option. He started chemo-therapy but it was far too late for him and he died this past January. Up until the very end he was convinced he was going to beat it. As for the spam in this thread, really I don't understand why Billros is allowing it. Yes we all have to keep an open mind but anybody with any intelligence can see right through the spam. Heck I am surprised this baldness cure doesn't also cure cancer along with increasing Libido. What is Vitamin E all of a sudden a long forgotten baldness cure? I mean really, I've been on this board for years now and its been a great board because of the sophistication of the posters. But if we start allowing these crap threads then the board has lost its usefullness in my honest opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Byehair Posted March 2, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2008 hoping: Do you really believe the guy would make up an alias about a year ago and then spend many months talking about everything other than Toco-8, so that he could recently promote his revolutionary product? Look at his posting history, I fond it hard to believe he is a scammer. You just seem angry. OK Wait maybeI am a scammer too! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hoping Posted March 2, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2008 Look at his posting history, I fond it hard to believe he is a scammer. You just seem angry. He has been a member a year? Okay, no he is not a "scammer" but he still qualifies as a "spammer". But I see the problem. He is still a child and is still in that phase where he thinks he knows more than everybody else. He too will learn, like all children do who eventually become adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Hoping, Matt is a legitimate member of our forum and is well educated in non surgical hair loss treatments. I don't always agree with what he has to say, but in no way do I believe he is a spammer. To be honest, like you, in the beginning, I thought he was. We have had words about it in the past but have long since been resolved. My advice to members of this forum is that there is a lot of information out there. New research is being conducted all the time, some is anecdotal and some is highly scientific. Read with a critical mind and draw conclusions based on knowledge and research. I hope this helps. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt Skiba Posted March 3, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2008 This guy is nuts but he gave me a hell of a laugh. There's a huge difference between losing your hair and having cancer. If I had a lump on my chest and a doctor told me it was cancer I would not try using herbal remedies, that just sounds ridiculous. I think it might be for the best if I don't reply to this thread anymore since it's gotten pretty ridiculous. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hoping Posted March 3, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2008 You missed the whole point. It has nothing to do with Cancer. It has to do with have a critical mind and, in the hair growing business, being skeptical until proven otherwise. I couldn't help laugh myself when reading the words of a twenty year old, who calls those of us skeptical as not being able to think outside the box. Hell, you need to learn how to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hoping Posted March 3, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2008 Okay Bill. If I had realized he was only twenty I probably would have simply ignored him. Got to admit, he has gone to an awful lot of trouble to try to impress us. Anyway, I'll keep quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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