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Thanks Bill and Spex. This is what I'm hoping is going on. The fact that they are about 1 - 1/2 inches long gives me hope that they are shocked hairs growing back. Time will tell I suppose.

Well, here is my rational as the best I can make of it. I'll call these hairs "fledglings" because they are about 1 to 1 1/2 inches long, which means they have been growing for at least 3 months. The surrounding hairs aren't that much thicker. The neighboring hairs and most of the hair in this area is also thinner than the healthiest hairs I have ( donor, new transplants etc .. ) but it's been this way for many years without falling out. So with this it would make sense to me that they could possibly be returning hairs that were shocked. Why else would they be so short? I did buzz my all of my hair down to a 3, 1/2 inch or so I guess it could be possible that these hairs grew for a while, and are now deciding to call it quits while the rest of it kept growing normally to a length of over 3 inches. It's just strange that so much thinning occurred in the 6.5 months after the HT when that hasn't been the pattern on my hair loss. I'll dig through older photos and see what I can come up with.

I had an HT of 4300 grafts 6.5 months ago. Hairline, temples, temple points and top/frontal section. At 6.5 months I am noticing in the top section there are fine wispy 1 inch hairs, even further back where no work was done. I seemed to have diffused since the HT, even in areas in where no work was done. I'm 47 and have thinned a bit on top but nothing radical at all, I still had basically a lot of normal hair on top. Over the years it has been very slow and minimal and had basically stabilized. It seems since the HT I have diffused more in the last 6.5 months. Pretty much the whole top area. An unusual amount over such a short amount of time. It doesn't follow my hair loss pattern at all. Right after the HT and during the initial healing I did notice a more than normal amount of hairs shedding, even in the back where no grafts were placed. I posted about this 1 month after the procedure In this Thread and was told that collateral shock can occur, although rare. So my questions are ... <UL TYPE=SQUARE> <LI>Are these likely to be those hairs returning? <LI>Are these likely hairs shocking and on their way out? <LI>Do shock loss hairs shrink in length before they eventually fall out? These hairs are all over the diffused area, as well as in the top area hwere there were hairs placed. The ones in back can't be late bloomers because there were no grafts placed here. In the immediate hairline, where the majority of density of the grafts were placed, it is thick and no 1 inch hairs like this are present. Attached is a photo. The rest of my hair has grown out to a length of at least 3 inches including most of the transplants.

I had an HT of 4300 grafts 6.5 months ago. Hairline, temples, temple points and top/frontal section. At 6.5 months I am noticing in the top section there are fine wispy 1 inch hairs, even further back where no work was done. I seemed to have diffused since the HT, even in areas in where no work was done. I'm 47 and have thinned a bit on top but nothing radical at all, I still had basically a lot of normal hair on top. Over the years it has been very slow and minimal and had basically stabilized. It seems since the HT I have diffused more in the last 6.5 months. Pretty much the whole top area. An unusual amount over such a short amount of time. It doesn't follow my hair loss pattern at all. Right after the HT and during the initial healing I did notice a more than normal amount of hairs shedding, even in the back where no grafts were placed. I posted about this 1 month after the procedure In this Thread and was told that collateral shock can occur, although rare. So my questions are ... <UL TYPE=SQUARE> <LI>Are these likely to be those hairs returning? <LI>Are these likely hairs shocking and on their way out? <LI>Do shock loss hairs shrink in length before they eventually fall out? These hairs are all over the diffused area, as well as in the top area hwere there were hairs placed. The ones in back can't be late bloomers because there were no grafts placed here. In the immediate hairline, where the majority of density of the grafts were placed, it is thick and no 1 inch hairs like this are present. Attached is a photo. The rest of my hair has grown out to a length of at least 3 inches including most of the transplants.

richardrr1972, Your photo(s) didn't come through. Can you try to re-post them?

richardrr1972, Could you post a photo of the areas your talking about? I didn't have cobblestoning but I had tiny pits in almost all of the implants after the surgery. It concerned me but if you notice in a lot of the Blogs, ( and look closely ) you will see many patients experience this. The tiny pits lasted approx. 2-3 months but went away completely. I also had temple work done and these areas had a slightly inflamed pink look to them and the skin just didn't look right at all. Again, I was worried but even here the skin did return completely to normal after about 3.5 months. So, no, 2 weeks isn't near enough time to make any kind of assessment of your skin. If it hasn't gotten better by 4-5 months I would be a little concerned.

I'm glad this topic was brought up as I'm unsure about some things. Many have said that hairs continue to thicken up as time continues, which makes sense but what if you have hairs that are already too thick in diameter for the area they are in? I'm 4.5 months post with Dr. Hasson and have spoken to them about this but I'm not convinced things will level out. In my temporal areas the hairs are just too big in diameter leaving a toothbrush appearance. They have grown overall about an inch and a half but I have cut them several times since. Granted they are still in the wirey phase so "a" change "is" expected, however I'm confused as sometimes it is said that hairs "thicken up", and other times it is said hairs "settle down" and get thinner. Does the body adjust the transplanted hairs characteristics according to which area of the recipient they have been placed, or are the hairs just programmed to sustain donor characteristics for the hairs life? .

I removed mine myself, all 75 of them with the tool provided from the doctor. I don't think you have to worry about infection if you use common sense, just wash your hands beforehand.

It's probably the entire recipient area but one can only compare the raised portion to an area that has had no transplants so therefore only apparent at the hairline. The temporal areas, transplanted in a vertical patch, can easily be felt because there is area in front and behind them that have no transplants so it's like a mound that runs vertically there. I'll try with the camera later to see if I can get a shot of it.

Bill, No, it's not cobblestoning or bumps. The skin is just fine, it's the entire area under the area grafted. It's raised. I can't get a camera to show it at the moment but along the hairline and especially the temporal areas if I run my fingers across the area where the transplants were placed, this area is raised up a bit. If I press harder on it, it feels sort of hard as if it were the bone that swelled or something.

I'm talking about months afterwards though.

Has anyone else noticed the recipient area becomes slightly raised after an HT? It isn't too noticeable visually ( but sort of ) unless you know it is there but if you run your fingers lightly over the area you can really feel it is raised where the hairs were implanted. Does anyone know what and why this is?

Has anyone else noticed the recipient area becomes slightly raised after an HT? It isn't too noticeable visually ( but sort of ) unless you know it is there but if you run your fingers lightly over the area you can really feel it is raised where the hairs were implanted. Does anyone know what and why this is?

Dewayne, I was an early sprouter. The very first ones popped through just 3 weeks post op. Even though, at 4.5 months I still have new ones coming in. So apparently, even for early sprouters some hairs don't start popping out until much later. For what it's worth the hairline was the first to come in, and the latest (slow) ones are more towards the top of the scalp.

I had a similar experience with an endodontist. Numbed me up and then the story changed. I walked out. I wouldn't bother with any legal action as long as they do refund your money. No harm done really except some wasted time and a numb head for a few hours. Consider yourself lucky (or just smart for leaving). The outcome could've been much worse had you not left when you did.

Totally understandable. You didn't mention if your in decent shape or not but you could also use this time to hit the gym and really improve the rest of you as well. Wonders can be had in just 6 months even if your in pretty good shape now.

NW5a, I think your hair looks great, you've matured quite nicely.

I'm not a big proponent for BHT but considering this patients circumstances and available options I would consider this a success story.

theEmperor, I think you pretty much summed it up in a nutshell there.

It also looks like he had a blepharoplasty ( eyelid surgery ) under the eyes to remove the puffy bags.

Bill, yes that's what I mean. I plucked out 1 of the 2's that were together to see if it would make a difference visually. With just single hairs it looks fine, but doubles on the hairline just look too big. I really don't think any more single hairs are going to grow in front of these.

Hooray, Night and day difference. You look great.

Thanks PGP, I'll hang in there and wait for more growth/maturation etc.. Like spex said it is very early days still and it can not be judged by what is here now.

Grateful, dakota, Guys, I halved out the 2's so they are not there in the pic. I'll give it more time as the others have said.

Bill, I'll give it more time but I'm pretty sure all of the hairs on the immediate hairline have sprouted, especially in the temporals. As I said, the frontal hairline appears to be all singles, but the temporals are where there are 2's up front. Here's a photo (w/flash) of a temporal but I already halved out the 2's. I'm pretty sure there aren't any more coming in in front of what's there in this area .. with the exception of the very top corner. There are a few there ready to come out. I'm 3.5 months.