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Where did you the above information regarding the phase 2 trials being done by Intercytex? I visited Intercytex this past spring and I have been following the phase 2 trials. I'm not aware of any results being presented to the public. I'd be curious to know where you got this info. Best wishes, Pat

As the regular members of this forum know, I visit leading clinics around the world to observe their surgeries and see their actual patients. In the past I did not formally report these visits, but used this information in determining which clinics and physicians are recommended on the Hair Transplant Network. More recently I have been presenting highlights from my clinic visits on our forum " Visits to Leading Hair Transplant Clinics Visits to Leading Hair Transplant Clinics". This past Spring I visited leading clinics in Europe and this Summer I visited leading clinics on the East Coast. More recently I visited leading clinics in Ontario, Canada . The highlight have just been added. I invite the members of this community to visit the topic " Visits to Leading Clinics in Ontario " and share their input by replying. Best wishes for achieving truly natural new hair growth. Pat

As the regular members of this forum know, I visit leading clinics around the world to observe their surgeries and see their actual patients. In the past I did not formally report these visits, but used this information in determining which clinics and physicians are recommended on the Hair Transplant Network. More recently I have been presenting highlights from my clinic visits on our forum " Visits to Leading Hair Transplant Clinics Visits to Leading Hair Transplant Clinics". This past Spring I visited leading clinics in Europe and this Summer I visited leading clinics on the East Coast. More recently I visited leading clinics in Ontario, Canada . The highlight have just been added. I invite the members of this community to visit the topic " Visits to Leading Clinics in Ontario " and share their input by replying. Best wishes for achieving truly natural new hair growth. Pat

Damo, Congratulations on your impressive results. I do welcome your input on our forum. But if you are representing Dr. Martinick in any capacity I ask that you disclose this in your posting signature. Best wishes, Pat P.S. I'd be happy to chat with you this coming Tuesday.

I've been drinking coffee and I'm ready to chat. I'll see you everyone at the chat room tonight. Pat

I've been drinking coffee and I'm ready to chat. I'll see you everyone at the chat room tonight. Pat

When I was thinking of the "Frontal Forelock" I was thinking of Dr. Beehner in particular since he is recognized as one of the world's foremost experts and presenters on this technique. I'm glad to see that he has shared his considerable expertise on this technique. I do think it's the best option for a NW 7 and Dr. Beehner is certainly an excellent choice for getting it done right. Best wishes, Pat

NM315, You might want to consider recreating a "frontal forelock", which is basically a receded mature hairline with central density. You will still be bald in back but the new receded hairline will reframe your face and then gradually transition into a naturally balding crown. To see examples of patients with class 6 or more baldness who restored their hairlines, visit our gallery of Class 6 results . Best wishes for at least going from a bald look to a thinning receding look. Pat

Bill, Thanks for recognizing the contributions made by the members of this community. Best wishes, Pat

It is very few and far between that a poster ever looses his or her posting privileges on this forum. Regardless of whether a poster is male or female or who they work for I will not stand by and watch them drop poison in our open well. Some people try to exploit openness and turn things intended for constructive purposes into destructive tools. An extreme example of this was terrorists using airplanes to destroy lower Manhattan on 9/11. This forum and it's private messages are intended to enable patients to share experiences and ideas. They were not created to give Grace the tools for spreading false, manipulative and misleading information. I asked Bill to revoke Grace's posting privileges. I support his actions 100%.

Both patients and ethical physicians share the common goal of elevating the standards of the hair restoration profession. While this patient based community provides a forum for sharing and analyzing real results and the physicians who provide them, many physicians have worked to establish educational standards for the hair transplant profession. The most prominent effort by physicians to set standards and criteria for state of the art hair transplantation and practices has been the American Board of Hair Restoration Surgery (ABHRS) . This non profit organization is managed by hair restoration physicians and certifies physicians as "Diplomates" after they successfully demonstrate a high degree of knowledge about current hair transplantation by passing an extensive written and oral examination. Dr. Bernie Nusbuam Dr. Bernie Nusbuam, who is a very respected member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians, will be assuming the Presidency of the ABHRS. I asked him to provide our community with more information about the ABHRS certification process and what it means. As he himself states, the ABHRS certification does not insure competence. But it does at least certify that ABHRS Diplomates have a demonstrated high level of understanding of current hair transplantation techniques and practices. The information Dr. Nusbuam provided to me is presented below: American Board of Hair Restoration Surgery (ABHRS) Update As a Coalition Physician and the incoming president of the ABHRS, I would like to inform the members of this community about this organization. Ten years ago, representatives from societies whose members perform hair restoration surgery (the American Academy of Cosmetic Surgery, the International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery, the American Academy of Facial Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery and the American Society of Dermatologic Surgery) established their commitment towards a process which would measure physicians' knowledge with regard to the safe and aesthetically sensitive practice of hair restoration. Their goal was to create a relevant, credible, unbiased examination that would help the profession and the public identify physicians who had attained a particular fund of knowledge in this regard. These founders selected a group of experienced hair transplant surgeons who were granted AB HRS certification and composed the first written and oral examinations which were administered in 1997. Since then, with the help of physicians who have passed the exam, a yearly oral and written examination has been developed and administered under the direction of a psychometric consultant (a Ph.D. who specializes in examining the reliability of standardized tests). The written examination consists of 200 questions and the oral examination presents the candidate with three difficult cases in front of two examiners. Topics covered include not only general principles and surgical technique, but , among others, proper aesthetics, repair techniques, medical therapy, management of complications, safe administration of anesthesia, identification of hair loss diseases that should not be transplanted as well as emergency management in the hair transplant setting. To date, 124 candidates representing 12 countries have been certified (given Diplomate status). Board certificates are time- limited, meaning that Diplomates, (including those who wrote the original test and did not take the examination) have to recertify every 10 years with strict Maintenance of Certification requirements in order to maintain their certification status. These requirements involve: 1) maintaining an unrestricted medical license and notification to the board of any current or past disciplinary actions 2) continuing medical education of at least 100 hours every three years of which 50% must be specifically hair related 3) passing a recertification exam (the first recertification exam is being given in September of this year and I will be one of the Diplomates who passed the exam in 1997 and will be taking the recertification exam this year) and 4) evaluation of practice performance by providing patient records for peer review. The ABHRS has also implemented regulations about how Diplomates can present their certification status in advertising or promotional materials. Diplomates have to comply with their local and state medical board regulations and cannot embellish their certification in any way. Diplomates who have misused their certification status in this regard have received notification demanding that they stop, or otherwise forfeit their certificates. There was some initial negativity towards the ABHRS and some criticism still exists. Some feel that the term "Board" was not a good choice because the ABHRS is not an ABMS (American Board of Medical Specialties) recognized board. Perhaps "subspecialty certificate" would have been a better choice but at least "board certification" is a term that everyone understands. Examples of ABMS recognized boards are the American Board of Dermatology, the American Board of Plastic Surgery and the American Board of Facial Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery. The ABMS system involves a minimum three year residency program and a subsequent examination. In a residency program, faculty members can evaluate a candidate for three years or more prior to the examination process. Unfortunately, at the present time, there are no residency programs devoted to hair restoration that can train and produce a competent hair restoration surgeon. In addition, there are no ABMS boards with an examination dedicated to hair restoration. I should mention that meetings have taken place with the ABMS and the American Board of Dermatology to discuss board certification in hair restoration surgery that would be ABMS recognized. While this may never be achieved, initial discussions were encouraging and efforts towards this goal will continue. A responsible field should stimulate its members to reach a higher educational level and knowledge base and then identify these physicians to the public .Since we do not have this option through the ABMS, the ABHRS is the best possible solution at this time. I have great respect for many of my colleagues who are excellent surgeons and leaders in the field of hair restoration who may or may not be certified by an ABMS board and do not feel the need to take the ABHRS exam. Many of us, however, who are ABMS board certified in other fields, felt that, achieving ABHRS certification was an important way to demonstrate our dedication and commitment to our patients and to the field of hair restoration. I can frankly state that the extensive time that I spent studying and preparing to take the ABHRS exam was one of the most rewarding educational experiences during my 25 year career with respect to gaining knowledge in this field and becoming a well-rounded hair restoration surgeon. Does ABHRS certification insure competency? Absolutely not! Also, as I mentioned earlier, there are top-flight physicians who are among the best hair restoration surgeons who are not ABHRS certified. Interestingly, 24 of the recommended surgeons on this site are ABHRS certified and 8 of us sit on the ABHRS Board of Directors. In 2005, the ISHRS, which is the largest educational society in hair restoration, conducted a survey of its members who were NOT ABHRS certified. With a 30% response rate, 70% of the responders felt that board certification is important to the field of hair restoration surgery and 72% indicated that they would like to be certified. 90% indicated the ABHRS is trying to serve the public and the profession. Just as the ISHRS provides the educational "arm" of this field, the ABHRS, through its efforts in providing a credible examination, serves as one component of the overall process and goal which we are all striving towards , that is, to improve the quality of our results and, in turn, help prospective patients. Thank you, Bernard Nusbaum, M.D.

Both patients and ethical physicians share the common goal of elevating the standards of the hair restoration profession. While this patient based community provides a forum for sharing and analyzing real results and the physicians who provide them, many physicians have worked to establish educational standards for the hair transplant profession. The most prominent effort by physicians to set standards and criteria for state of the art hair transplantation and practices has been the American Board of Hair Restoration Surgery (ABHRS) . This non profit organization is managed by hair restoration physicians and certifies physicians as "Diplomates" after they successfully demonstrate a high degree of knowledge about current hair transplantation by passing an extensive written and oral examination. Dr. Bernie Nusbuam Dr. Bernie Nusbuam, who is a very respected member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians, will be assuming the Presidency of the ABHRS. I asked him to provide our community with more information about the ABHRS certification process and what it means. As he himself states, the ABHRS certification does not insure competence. But it does at least certify that ABHRS Diplomates have a demonstrated high level of understanding of current hair transplantation techniques and practices. The information Dr. Nusbuam provided to me is presented below: American Board of Hair Restoration Surgery (ABHRS) Update As a Coalition Physician and the incoming president of the ABHRS, I would like to inform the members of this community about this organization. Ten years ago, representatives from societies whose members perform hair restoration surgery (the American Academy of Cosmetic Surgery, the International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery, the American Academy of Facial Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery and the American Society of Dermatologic Surgery) established their commitment towards a process which would measure physicians' knowledge with regard to the safe and aesthetically sensitive practice of hair restoration. Their goal was to create a relevant, credible, unbiased examination that would help the profession and the public identify physicians who had attained a particular fund of knowledge in this regard. These founders selected a group of experienced hair transplant surgeons who were granted AB HRS certification and composed the first written and oral examinations which were administered in 1997. Since then, with the help of physicians who have passed the exam, a yearly oral and written examination has been developed and administered under the direction of a psychometric consultant (a Ph.D. who specializes in examining the reliability of standardized tests). The written examination consists of 200 questions and the oral examination presents the candidate with three difficult cases in front of two examiners. Topics covered include not only general principles and surgical technique, but , among others, proper aesthetics, repair techniques, medical therapy, management of complications, safe administration of anesthesia, identification of hair loss diseases that should not be transplanted as well as emergency management in the hair transplant setting. To date, 124 candidates representing 12 countries have been certified (given Diplomate status). Board certificates are time- limited, meaning that Diplomates, (including those who wrote the original test and did not take the examination) have to recertify every 10 years with strict Maintenance of Certification requirements in order to maintain their certification status. These requirements involve: 1) maintaining an unrestricted medical license and notification to the board of any current or past disciplinary actions 2) continuing medical education of at least 100 hours every three years of which 50% must be specifically hair related 3) passing a recertification exam (the first recertification exam is being given in September of this year and I will be one of the Diplomates who passed the exam in 1997 and will be taking the recertification exam this year) and 4) evaluation of practice performance by providing patient records for peer review. The ABHRS has also implemented regulations about how Diplomates can present their certification status in advertising or promotional materials. Diplomates have to comply with their local and state medical board regulations and cannot embellish their certification in any way. Diplomates who have misused their certification status in this regard have received notification demanding that they stop, or otherwise forfeit their certificates. There was some initial negativity towards the ABHRS and some criticism still exists. Some feel that the term "Board" was not a good choice because the ABHRS is not an ABMS (American Board of Medical Specialties) recognized board. Perhaps "subspecialty certificate" would have been a better choice but at least "board certification" is a term that everyone understands. Examples of ABMS recognized boards are the American Board of Dermatology, the American Board of Plastic Surgery and the American Board of Facial Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery. The ABMS system involves a minimum three year residency program and a subsequent examination. In a residency program, faculty members can evaluate a candidate for three years or more prior to the examination process. Unfortunately, at the present time, there are no residency programs devoted to hair restoration that can train and produce a competent hair restoration surgeon. In addition, there are no ABMS boards with an examination dedicated to hair restoration. I should mention that meetings have taken place with the ABMS and the American Board of Dermatology to discuss board certification in hair restoration surgery that would be ABMS recognized. While this may never be achieved, initial discussions were encouraging and efforts towards this goal will continue. A responsible field should stimulate its members to reach a higher educational level and knowledge base and then identify these physicians to the public .Since we do not have this option through the ABMS, the ABHRS is the best possible solution at this time. I have great respect for many of my colleagues who are excellent surgeons and leaders in the field of hair restoration who may or may not be certified by an ABMS board and do not feel the need to take the ABHRS exam. Many of us, however, who are ABMS board certified in other fields, felt that, achieving ABHRS certification was an important way to demonstrate our dedication and commitment to our patients and to the field of hair restoration. I can frankly state that the extensive time that I spent studying and preparing to take the ABHRS exam was one of the most rewarding educational experiences during my 25 year career with respect to gaining knowledge in this field and becoming a well-rounded hair restoration surgeon. Does ABHRS certification insure competency? Absolutely not! Also, as I mentioned earlier, there are top-flight physicians who are among the best hair restoration surgeons who are not ABHRS certified. Interestingly, 24 of the recommended surgeons on this site are ABHRS certified and 8 of us sit on the ABHRS Board of Directors. In 2005, the ISHRS, which is the largest educational society in hair restoration, conducted a survey of its members who were NOT ABHRS certified. With a 30% response rate, 70% of the responders felt that board certification is important to the field of hair restoration surgery and 72% indicated that they would like to be certified. 90% indicated the ABHRS is trying to serve the public and the profession. Just as the ISHRS provides the educational "arm" of this field, the ABHRS, through its efforts in providing a credible examination, serves as one component of the overall process and goal which we are all striving towards , that is, to improve the quality of our results and, in turn, help prospective patients. Thank you, Bernard Nusbaum, M.D.

Sorry about what ever slight was made earlier and apparently now removed. I did try to visit Dr. Conor Kiely in Ireland when I was in Europe this past Spring. Unfortunately, he our appointment was canceled due to him having a "family emergency". I believe Dr. Collins does meticulous surgery. but his fees are very expensive and average about double those of the very best Coalition clinics. Best wishes, Pat

Grace, Like democracy, free speech and this forum are not always tidy. But everyone, whether recommended or not, have access to this open forum to share results, ideas and respond to comments they do not agree with. This community and the physicians who are recommended on it operate in a transparent environment where our actions and results are often critiqued in open public view. These posts ??“ the good, the bad and the ugly ??“ are permanently left in our archive for any one to find by searching our "Find" feature. I welcome your participation on this forum. This community is always looking for constructive criticism so we can continually improve. Such feedback has served to help up maintain the quality of the list of physicians recommended. As you point out, no community or any physician is perfect. But in an industry/profession that has little or no regulation and a long history of hype, patients and clinics sharing and debating real information openly worldwide 24/7 has created a good measure of much needed accountability. Grace, you claim to be good at digging online. But if what you presented is the worst dirt you can find out of well over 100,000 posts going back over five years then I'm delighted with our track record and will be recommending Dr. Shapiro and Dr. Hasson to the pope for canonization ?????? Now if you really have some time available, please going digging for dirt on the national chains. But do be sure to bring a convoy of those trucks they use for open pit mining. It is openly stated on the Hair Transplant Network that the recommended physicians presented are not a definitive or perfect list . Important Note - The hair restoration physicians recommended on this site are not a definitive list of all excellent hair restoration surgeons. Nor do we warranty or guaranty the results of any of the physicians presented on this site. As always, we encourage you to do your due diligence in evaluating these and all physicians. But after ten years of researching leading clinics and traveling to them from Sao Paula, Brazil to Brussels, Belgium and from the tip of Miami to Vancouver, Canada I'm confident that the vast majority of the true gems are recommended on this community. Your choice of photos demonstrates the very nature of your selective presentation. The Joe Tilman (Jotronic) we know and respect looks nothing like the goof ball you presented (see his blog for a realistic depiction), who was obviously just having some fun with the camera. Although I must admit I laughed at how grossly misrepresented and goofy the photo was. But rather than working so hard to lampoon the members of this community in mug shot format, why not go digging for some impressive immediate post op Bosley patient photos? While we all enjoy a pretty face or a good laugh, we are much more interested in seeing actual surgical results. Surely with your skill at digging and photo editing you can find a few authorized promo shots to present. Your accusation that this form is dominated by paid posters is simply on true. The members of this community and myself have been militantly against clinics covertly marketing their services on the forums. Those who have been caught doing this have been publicly removed. Those who are compensated by clinics are required to disclaim this in all their posts. We work hard to run an above the board and accountable community. Your accusations that it is otherwise are as misleading as the typical hair transplant infomercial. Onwards and Upwards, Pat P.S. Does anyone have an old photo of Grace when she passed out on the couch in college and her friends put pepperoni slices over her eyes?

As many of the long time members of this community know, I have been a staunch critic of the creeping commercialization of patient based educational forums. As physicians and clinics have become increasingly aware of the impact of patient based forums, some have used the forums as a vehicle for self-promotion. Some of them have enlisted people to promote their services on the forums, while others have even compensated patients to encourage them to post. Those physicians who compensated people to post on this forum without disclosing such arrangements ("covert marketing") were removed and are no longer presented. In my opinion, such pay for posting arrangements undermine the voluntary educational nature of the patient forums and diminish their authenticity and credibility. Thus when a clinic hires a person outside of their office to promote them on the forums, I believe it gives them an unfair advantage over those quality clinics who do not pay for such assistance. In the past, Dr. Ron Shapiro, his brother Dr. Paul Shapiro and their lead medical technician, Janna, have shared their ideas and patient photos on this forum for the benefit of all, without enlisting a third party outside their office. In my opinion, this was the most responsible model for how a clinic should interact with our forum. By hiring an outside third party, no matter how popular or unpopular this person may be, to promote them on this and other forums the Shapiro Medical Group is setting a different example for their colleagues. This concerns me. I want this forum to be a level playing field where all patients and ethical clinics get a fair and proportionate share of visibility. Paying a poster or posters upsets this natural balance in my opinion. Forgive the analogy, but just as most parks require people to not upset the natural balance by feeding the wild life, I think we should discourage physicians from paying posters on this forum. Hiring people outside of the clinic staff and office to work the forums in my opinion upsets the natural voluntary balance of the forums. Those who are familiar with some of the other hair loss forums know just how out of balance a discussion forum can become when certain clinics employee agents to work the forums for them. I would like to preserve the open, volunteer and non-commercial nature of this educational patient based forum. I will soon be contacting all physicians who participate on this community to encourage them to respect this delicate balance and not upset it by paying outside third party posters for their services. Pat

Janna, Thanks for your input and reminder that the crown only got a limited number of grafts toward the top of the crown. I hope that with time I prove to be a slow or late grower rather than a no grower in the mid scalp area. So far I have seen no signs of new hair growth in the areas transplanted. It will be interesting to see if my growth characteristics have really been diminished since when I was a hair transplant virgin. Pat

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm stepping down off the ledge :-)

As of July 21st my last session with Dr. Ron Shapiro was at 8 months post op. I took photos then but only now have I posted them to both my photo album entitled Pat's Nov 21st 2006 Surgery with Dr. Ron Shapiro in Mpls and my Hair Loss blog . My impression at eight months is that I did not see much of an improvement. In fact, during the past few months I have really not noticed the transplanted hair growing in, if it has grown in. This could be due to the transplanted hair being added in between existing hair. Or it could be that after five surgical sessions my scalp vascularity is compromised so that my new hair growth is suppressed or greatly delayed. I am a bit disappointed to have done 5 surgical sessions over several years and still feeling thin on top, especially in the crown. I'm proof indeed that hair loss is "progressive" and can only be treated as it progresses but not "cured". All twenty two year olds who are in a rush to use up their limited donor area to dense pack their receding hairlines should keep this concept in mind. Again, as they say, hair transplants can't restore a full head of hair on people with extensive hair loss - transplants can only create the "illusion of fullness". However, I find that by Prothik spray does dramatically increase the look of fullness of my hair transplants. I expect that other cover up products like Toppik etc also provide similar benefits. I like the spray rather than the sprinkle on Toppik or paint on couvre. Of course, I may get black lung disease like a coal miner from breathing all that sticky spray over the years. But small price to pay to have a full look, right? I hope my growth is just very delayed at eight months. I'll keep everyone posted. Best wishes, Pat

As of July 21st my last session with Dr. Ron Shapiro was at 8 months post op. I took photos then but only now have I posted them to both my photo album entitled Pat's Nov 21st 2006 Surgery with Dr. Ron Shapiro in Mpls and my Hair Loss blog . My impression at eight months is that I did not see much of an improvement. In fact, during the past few months I have really not noticed the transplanted hair growing in, if it has grown in. This could be due to the transplanted hair being added in between existing hair. Or it could be that after five surgical sessions my scalp vascularity is compromised so that my new hair growth is suppressed or greatly delayed. I am a bit disappointed to have done 5 surgical sessions over several years and still feeling thin on top, especially in the crown. I'm proof indeed that hair loss is "progressive" and can only be treated as it progresses but not "cured". All twenty two year olds who are in a rush to use up their limited donor area to dense pack their receding hairlines should keep this concept in mind. Again, as they say, hair transplants can't restore a full head of hair on people with extensive hair loss - transplants can only create the "illusion of fullness". However, I find that by Prothik spray does dramatically increase the look of fullness of my hair transplants. I expect that other cover up products like Toppik etc also provide similar benefits. I like the spray rather than the sprinkle on Toppik or paint on couvre. Of course, I may get black lung disease like a coal miner from breathing all that sticky spray over the years. But small price to pay to have a full look, right? I hope my growth is just very delayed at eight months. I'll keep everyone posted. Best wishes, Pat

I just have to wonder if Jesus Christ came back today and posted here would he get as much praise at Hairbank? My guess is that Jesus would find himself mostly bombarded with tough questions asking why in the Hell he and his father created hair loss to begin with. Of course, Jesus would also be hit with hundreds of private messages requesting instant and miraculous hair restoration - and by completely non invasive means. By the time Jesus had been dealing with this community for three days he'd wish he'd simply been nailed to a cross and left alone. Hairbank, We welcome your second coming :-) Pat

HairBank, The addiction to being a hair restoration junkie is a hard one to beat. I knew you'd have a relapse and show up some day again :-) Great to have you back online and sharing your wisdom and care. Just don't work too hard or you might be in danger of ODing. Remember to keep your forum fixes manageable and after a session of swapping multiple responses always sterilize your keyboard. I hope life is on track for you and you are using up some of the great karma you earned helping hundreds of people on this forum over the years. Best wishes, Pat

Glenn, Welcome to our community. As Mrjb suggested, click on the "Find" button and do a search for the name of any surgeon or clinic you are considering. By searching our forum you will find all that has been written about the clinic or surgeon going back over 5 years. Best wishes, Pat P.S. Dr. Paul Rose is recommended on this community and is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians.

I appreciate everyones input. Given Dr. Feriduni's state of the art ultra refined procedure and top notch staff and results, he has been granted membership in the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians . To learn more about Dr.Feriduni and view his impressive ultra refined patient results visit his Coalition profile .

Dr. Feller, Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Coming from you it is a high compliment. Thanks as well to Bill and everyone else for their support. The hair transplant industry/profession has long had a history of no one noticing when the "Emperor has no clothing". Too many physicians have been content to hang with the old boys club and muddle along, while not being held accountable for their actual patient results. The Internet and patients sharing real information has shaken this comfortable arrangement up. In the transparent era of the Internet physicians and me are held accountable for the work provided to those visiting this community. I know that many patients place their trust in this community and the physicians recommended on it. So I believe it is essential to see in person who is really walking the walk rather than just talking the talk. Those clinics I visit who prove to be impressive will be presented in the forum "Visits to Leading Hair Transplant Clinics". As for those doing subpare work, I have no interest in wasting precious time visiting them. But perhaps I will get "cloaking" device for Hair Force One so that I can sneak up on some of the clinics unannounced :-) I intend to continue visiting clinics, including Dr. Gables, over the next few months. Over and Out from Hair Force One

Bill, Thanks for the excellent follow up and update. Please stay on these guys because as we know the squeaky wheel gets the oil - especially when it is squeaking on a public forum. Pat