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The bottom line is this: many of us have supportive girlfriends or wives who honestly don't care if we have hair or not; it's about how we feel, not about how THEY feel. If this guy empowers his girlfriend's shallow outlook on their relationship and stresses over it, he is in for trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets to the point when she makes an ultimatum. The poor souls who start to believe they are worthless to other people without their hair are the ones who wind up making rash decisions and fucking their entire lives up over it. This guy deserves better. Despite the fact that she tries justifying her feelings, deep down the girl knows she is a snob, which most likely explains why she would have to resort to advice from a complete stranger online than discuss the matter with someone close to her. Either that, or all of her friends and family already told her she is a bitch, and her last resort was to write to Abby, who essentially told her the same thing. She got OWNED!!!

Yeah, good luck to her; she has GREAT odds of meeting a guy who will never experience any degree of hair loss. As if that were the sole criterion she uses to determine the best parter for her... what a miserable person. The only forseeable problem in their future is the possibility that he may lose more hair? I can understand why a woman may not be initially attracted to a guy with thin hair; falling in love with someone and THEN complaining about it is entirely different. Her argument is basically this: "In time, I fear his looks may deteriorate". HA HA HA HA HA HA. Someone forgot to tell her that women age as well. Despite a few guys here and there who are seemingly proud of being assholes, you don't usually see committed men leaving their girlfriends/wives over wrinkles and cellulite. Pathetic. You're right though- the response she received probably made her feel like the biggest piece of shit alive. The fact that she claims to be attracted to him currently but is worrying about what he will look like in the future suggests that she is just searching for a reason to doubt the relationship anyway. She is probably just some chickenhead with no self awareness. The sad thing is that there are probably a lot of balding guys who are so into their own self loathing that they'll be like, "No... she has a right to feel that way. I know I'm not attractive anymore blah blah". It's natural to feel insecure, but rarely do other people care as much as you do about your perceived flaws. So when someone else actually has a problem with YOUR hairloss, it's time to move on.

Yup. Anyone with a small patch of thinning can mash or comb the hair around to obscure the area; this is clearly done in the first pair of photos. The before picture in the second pair actually looks better to me than the after; a wet cowlick in the crown should look considerably fuller when it's dry, but doesn't. So to me, this tactic is an utter failure. Not to say that other photos used to promote meds or even transplants don't do this, but with laser that's ALL we have to go on. Totally non-compelling evidence, unless you really want to believe it works.

People insist that Propecia will not protect against a receding hairline, but I think this is rubbish. Hell, even rogaine can occasionally work in the hairline. Most of the testing that was conducted simply didn't include results in this region; most doctors argue that finasteride will work wherever there cosmetically significant hair still exists on the scalp. My hairline started to slightly recede or "mature" (can't tell which) when I was 21. It basically stabilized and remained there for two years, so when I was 23, I got on propecia to protect against future loss. I'm now 26, and haven't lost any hair. There are some studies that suggest that at some point Propecia will stop being as effective, but the timetable is ambiguous and it seems to work differently depending on the individual. Spence David Kobren, host of the Bald Truth, has been on Finasteride for over 14 years and claims it has retained his hair. Also, I believe the drug technically starts working the second you take it, although any regrowth or complete hault in loss may take the time frame you mentioned to be noticeable. Good luck!

I imagine that a great sense of contentment will come over you after the final procedure is all said and done. Go for broke!

If you go to Dr. Cooley's coalition profile you can view several video interviews; in the last one he mentions his transplant.

Definitely. I mean, half your donor blasted into a slightly receded hairline for nothing. And even though money should be the last concern... $50k for that kind of result is just insane. He has taken his before and immediately post op pics down from this site, but he was barely thinning in the front. I can't criticize the decision to go in for work when you're only a NW2, because it's what I did. But this guy would probably have been satisfied with 1200 grafts or so to fill in the area, maybe lowering the widow's peak slightly. With a good doctor, this would have been a fraction of the cost without significantly depleting the donor supply. This has been said before about this type of work time and time again, and now I'm agreeing with you all.

I was truly routing for this guy; he temporarily posted here a while back and was expecting something great. The immediate post-op pics looked fabulous. I didn't want to jump on the Armani hatin' bandwagon, but this looks really dissapointing. I know there has been a lot of controversy surrounding these FUE megasessions, and I suppose this type of result is the reason why: http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=58&threadid=77806 Yes, it's 9.5 months; but the problem here is it appears the grafts that took HAVE fully grown in, suggesting that all that is left is maturation, which won't solve the density issue. Hopefully he can get this corrected. I always thought it was a little rude to link to someone else's story from another forum. But people come here searching for info on this type of thing, so I think it's important to look at.

I was truly routing for this guy; he temporarily posted here a while back and was expecting something great. The immediate post-op pics looked fabulous. I didn't want to jump on the Armani hatin' bandwagon, but this looks really dissapointing. I know there has been a lot of controversy surrounding these FUE megasessions, and I suppose this type of result is the reason why: http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=58&threadid=77806 Yes, it's 9.5 months; but the problem here is it appears the grafts that took HAVE fully grown in, suggesting that all that is left is maturation, which won't solve the density issue. Hopefully he can get this corrected. I always thought it was a little rude to link to someone else's story from another forum. But people come here searching for info on this type of thing, so I think it's important to look at.

It isn't too common, but still a natural balding pattern nonetheless: some men maintain most of their hairline (NW2ish) but thin on top and bald in the crown. I have also noticed that some guys also retain a somewhat juvenile wall of the hairline and diffuse thin directly behind it. I agree though that at least a light dusting of the crown should be considered; dense hairline and entirely bald crown would present a stark contrast. I think some dense packing in the hairline is always good to a degree, even if you attempt to maximize coverage over the entire scalp. Regardless of placement, I think hairlines need at least 40 grafts per cm/2 to look natural (probably more), especially if you have darker hair and lighter complexion.

Very nice dude. Nothing crazy going on with the styling either to try to maximize coverage; looks like your standard, short haircut. It's sweet that you have the density at 5 months to use a dab of gel. Your summer is gonna rock!

Doctors' responses to this seem to depend on the context in which the question is raised. For example, if a 20 year old asks, "Why can't I have my hairline restored; I'm on Propecia!", the response is usually something like the "can't delay the inevitable" spiel. However, if a 34 year old argues, "I don't want to take Propecia because it only delays the inevitable , then the response is usually more like "No it doesn't". There is like a skillion posts about this on BaldingBlog, and the editors over there give responses that contradict each other constantly. I do remember one quote from Rassman: "I've never seen anyone on finasteride go bald". Part of the answer may have something to do with how old the patient is at the time of treatment; maybe even more importantly, the extent of hairloss + genetic predisposition to a final pattern the patient has before he begins treatment. The other thing to consider is why do you always see, in combination with transplant post op pics, captions like "vertex/crown being treated with Propecia" if the results on average are that temporary? I mean, 18 months to see full results from a transplant: that's a year and a half. If fin. stops working in a few years then what's the point of "stabilizing" loss first? I wish there were some solid answers too.

Lol no charge for the DVD. Avoid the real freaky stuff for a while (no donkey punches to the donor).

I know that the True & Dorin post-op care instructional DVD suggested that you can resume very light exercising at about one week, and showed the patient doing what looked like "woman's type" strength training with some very light looking weights. Don't quote me on anything but I believe it said if you had to work out to start very light at about 5-6 days post op and very gradually build up to normal routine after the stitches are removed. It was very general advice but common sense dictates to avoid anything that strains the donor as others mentioned. I would say don't overdo it for a few months but don't be afraid to move around at all either. I've read threads that have advised to not have sex for like a month which is a little too paranoid if you ask me. I would avoid 69ing and stuff like that but a man gotta' live.

Rambler, That's a very moving memory you've described; thanks for sharing it. It can be hard to keep personal problems in perspective sometimes, hair related or otherwise, but I am going to remember that story.

Speaking of butter, holy crap go back to the previous page a take a look at the trough-size breakfast Cage is eating. The effects of diet on hairloss....

That hairstyle looks very good on you. A lot of guys try to pull it off but wind up looking like Friar Tuck. It suits you well though.

Ha ha does kind of look like a monkey butt.

To clarify, I was laughing at John Travolta because he's John Travolta, not because he wears a wig.

Wow. I wonder how many of these celebrities who wear pieces just do it strictly for business and are comfortable with their hair otherwise. Still seems potentially threatening to a movie star's career to be seen like that in the real world though. I read that the actor/comedian Kevin James wears a piece on set but is perfectly comfortable walking around backstage without it. I guess most of them try to keep it a secret, but why would you go out in broad daylight with a bald-ass head knowing you might get hounded by paparazzi? Lol at John Travolta. I knew his hair looked weird; his widow's peak is like a sharp triangle in those stupid pilot watch adds. I found this page which explains and shows the hair-net thing is visible in his temple area when he wears it: http://www.makemeheal.com/news/did-john-travolta-wear-a...ece-at-the-oscars/84 Nick Cage's hair looks like shit. Looks like NW 7 judging from the back. I think guys who are this deep into the pattern can get good results, but this definitely isn't the way to do it.

Much better like this-

Bad.

Yup here are The Edge's headshots: 2 with the plugs and one improved, shaved to the skin look.

Hey jd, First off: your hairline is on the higher side, but we have seen a lot worse in 21 year olds. If you already had a congenitally high hairline, it may have just reached the "mature" stage, in which case meds probably wouldn't restore it anyway. If you think you may be experiencing the early stages of MPB, meds may help protect you against further loss. Most respected doctors normally say they won't consider a person a candidate until he has reached the age of 25; however, this is not always the case. But if I were in your shoes I would wait at least a few years; your balding pattern may be more established by then. If not, then maybe consider a smaller FUE session, maybe 1000 or so to lower the contour of the hairline in an artistic manner to where your native hairs in the widow's peak are if it still bothers you when you are in your mid-later 20s. This way, you would have a strong mature hairline, wouldn't use a ton of grafts, a wouldn't have a linear scar in the back of your head. In the meantime, I would let your girlfriend know that she isn't really supporting you by trying to hide your higher hairline if that's the case. Most of us have girlfriends/wives who honestly wouldn't care if were we bald or not; it's a personal insecurity. So to really think that your significant other actually has a problem with it is way too much stress for you to deal with. Just talk about it.

Yes I agree. I have been on it for 2 2/2 years with no problems, but your post is very encouraging about its future potential. Thanks.