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17 hours ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

 

 

make an appointment with eugenix or pittella in brasil, you will need beard hairs

 

medication is recommended to prevent the sides from going further down(lateral humps) but i dont agree that you shouldnt proceed with a hairtransplant if you cant tolerate medication since you already norwood 6 and you already started the hairtransplant process. the scars and the transplanted hairline are already there anyways so i dont think you will lose much aesthetical speaking if you go for a second round even if you gonna lose more hair

Eugenix doesn't see patients 12 months before a transplant. I'm applying topical finastride, I hope it works.

43 minutes ago, ThePerseverantWarrior said:

Pictures of your transplanted hairline? That's not there

You still had a lot of native hair. I'd recommend trying topical dutasteride + oral minoxidil

Obviously we should respond in kind to the staff, provided they don't act without an iota of professionalism

The doctors at Saraswat are quite experienced, and do trichoscopy regularly. I'm not sure if detailed trichoscopy is done at Eugenix. Check out Saraswat for a trichoscopy related consultation. You won't regret it. They also do SMP quite frequently. (Obv that's not the best place to get a repair transplant done though)

And I won't get another transplant if I were you until I achieve some of stabilisation with medication. Your pre op pics looked closer to a NW 5 diffused thinner. Medication is a must if you want to sport a headfull kinda appearance

Yes, I still had native hair. The doctor seems to have transected them. I feel he knew what he was doing, and still decided to transect them. 

Topical dutasteride is not available in India, but I am applying topical finastride religiously.

38 minutes ago, ThePerseverantWarrior said:

If your eventual grade is NW 6 and you're already NW 6, then there may not much of a point in trying medication. Nevertheless, you could try topical dutasteride (since you had side effects) and oral minoxidil to see if any regrowth is possible. 

Wtf!! Try and talk to the doctor. And don't hesitate to give back to that staff in the same tone. Hairloss can be a rather frustrating issue and no professional clinic makes such jibes. 

Saraswat clinic has a branch in Faridabad. Check their website. You can get a detailed trichoscopy done there. The doctors can also guide you further on your present dilemma

Updated with working links. I respond in kind to the staff, but the doctor doesn't seem to care much. I have never heard of Saraswat, people mostly talk about Eugenix.

4 minutes ago, ThePerseverantWarrior said:

The second link is not working. Need better images of your scalp. 

Few questions: 

1) Your baldness grade before transplant 2) Age 3) Eventual baldness grade based on family history (6 or 7)

How can the staff of that clinic "ridicule" you? Did you visit in person? You have every right to have a direct conversation with your doctor. Don't let them off so easily. 

And if you live close to Delhi NCR, I can recommend clinics which you can visit for a proper trichoscopy of your scalp. This will help you get a decent idea of how many approx grafts were actually extracted from your scalp. 

 

 

I am 29 years old, Norwood 6 before the transplant. Eventual grade of baldness based on family history is a norwood 6.

The staff at the clinic made fun of me when I had raised my concern about the hairline. Before the transplant the doctor had said only single hair grafts are used in the Hairline, after the surgery double and triple hair grafts were visible clear as day. On raising these and other concerns the staff at the clinic made fun of me and said "don't you have a girl friend". Implying I am sexually frustrated. 

I will upload the pictures in the second link soon.

I would really appreciate if you can guide to a clinic who can tell me how many grafts were extracted.

1 hour ago, Moazzam said:

Without fin, dont do hair transplant, that's like trying to drive a sports car without learning to drive a normal car. Hair transplant is of no use without fin.your tansplanted hair may not fall but the other hair will (like what happened to you) take the dose of fin to 0.5 mg (half a pill) if you continue using fin long term, the sides will go away. 

What about topical finastride is it effective? I have been applying for the past one month, i have been applying it to my donor area as well.

If there is no alternative to finastride then I would prefer to get the unnatural hairline removed and get SMP.

1 minute ago, Moazzam said:

Unless you're using a DHT blocker/reducer like Finasteride or Dutasteride. there's no use in getting a transplant. Your native hair aren't killed by the transplant but by the lack of use of Fin or Dut. Get on fin first, use it for about 8-12 months before you decide to go for a second transplant. 

I used finastride for five months and started to get side effects.

Hi, I had a hair transplant 10 months ago from AKS clinic in Gurgaon,India,  by Dr Akhilendra Singh. 

The results are extremely poor, as seen from picturs attached below. The doctor claimed to have transplanted 4,000 scalp grafts and 200 beard grafts. But the images clearly show less than 1,500 grafts implanted in the recipient area. God only knows how many grafts he extracted. When I raised my concerns with the clinic then I was ridiculed by the staff at the clinic. After the transplant there was absolutely zero communication from the clinic. 

The doctor has implanted a strong hairline with almost nothing behind it and has killed my native hair.

Pictures of hair transplant 7 months post OP, looks the same today:

https://imgur.io/a/n5ZBJFw

Pictures showing condition of donor pre and immediate post OP:

https://file.io/Md8M2MzoIZ0D 

(above link has high resolution pictures in pdf format)

Edit: Working Link:

Immediate post Op with pictures of donor area

https://imgur.com/a/Jkp8OXx

Pre Op photos (before the transplant):

https://imgur.com/a/GKVmfBN

I need advice on the way forward. How should I plan my repair?

1 minute ago, Shadman said:

I went for the exclusive package which 120 INR+18% gst In my previous procedure it was a complete waste of money. So for my repair procedure I was out of budget for Dr priya currently she is at 210 INR package. @bigmistake

Great, looking forward to your results.

@Shadmanwhich package have you chosen ?

Man I have been seeing so many bad cases from Dr Bhatti, all have the same MO, all patients have been put to sleep/drugged without their consent. 

Was your transplant like this from the beginning or did you loose native hair ?

19 hours ago, Eugenix Hair Sciences said:

During the time of his very first hair transplant, 1900 grafts were extracted in which they took 1500 from scalp and 400 from beard, and donor situation was good prior to his transplant at Eugenix. 

@itisme_alssiriwhy did you agree to such a small surgery, when you knew these amount of grafts are not good enough to get adequate coverage ?

11 hours ago, Chiku said:

You did some deep digging!! 😀 That's quite a story. As you can see the results are suboptimal once you start using higher percentage of Body hairs. However I do believe his pics underestimate the actual results as he never posted any pics with long hairs. At the three month mark his pics suggest something very impressive coming up in the months to come, but then he started trimming his hairs.  

Yeah man, I need a repair and have limited donor. I need to dig deep. I have seen great results from Eugenix using body hair, and some not so great (track_rat)

If his results would have looked great with long hair he would have posted an update by now. But I still think his will look great with SMP. Just like Gatsby, he had SMP before his transplant which added to him aesthetically.

42 minutes ago, Chiku said:

Is it helping your native hairs.

 

Can't say, let's wait and see another six months.

3,270 grafts for just the front ? Something does not add up. Is it possible to count the extraction holes to see how many grafts were extracted.

@Eugenix Hair Scienceswhat was the condition of his donor prior to his transplant at Eugenix, how many grafts were taken out from his donor from his very first hair transplant at another clinic.

Hey, I saw your YouTube video, Amazing results. How many grafts were implanted in your very first surgery before Eugenix?

Found a similar case:

Your results are even better.

Rather than going for another transplant to improve density, can't you improve density using SMP ?

23 hours ago, Chiku said:

Look forward to your updated pics. 

It is hard to salvage the native hairs if transplant is done in the same area to improve density if the native hairs are affected by DHT specially if they are miniaturized. It is hard to grow them back after a shock loss.  Were you on Finasteride when you had your HT.

I was on finastride after my transplant. Had 1mg for five months, had sides now switched to topical finastride.

Just now, Chiku said:

Thanks. I did see your pics through the link you posted. Your recipient area appear to be different fromm mine as does the grade of baldness. You got native hairs all over. Although it is hard to see the full extend of baldness because the pics are immediate post op. But definitely not a typical norwood 6 or7. 

Nope, I will post updated pics soon. I am a Norwood 6. In my first FUR surgery my surgeon appears to have killed some of my native hair in the crown and mid scalp.

3 minutes ago, Chiku said:

I live in the US but am of Indian origin and have a home in India. What makes you think if there could be issue with graft survivability?  I am not sure what would have I expected with 3000 grafts, with 1000 being from beard and many scalp grafts coming out of my side locks. There are no egs on internet which I could compare to mine. 

Maybe get a consultation with Dr Konior or Dr Sahar Nadimi in Chicago. To me the density look good for the amount grafts transplanted. If I come across a similar case I shall share it with you. 

I had a FUE surgery 9 months ago, my recipient area is similar to yours except with a strong hairline and nothing behind it. I'm not sure how many grafts I have in my scalp area. I live in Delhi and will be going to Eugenix on the 12th month mark. Since our receipt areas are similar I will keep you posted on what are Eugenix's thoughts on my case.

8 minutes ago, Chiku said:

Yes I saw the breakdown for @IrishWarrior but he had his crown covered as well with those numbers. I have opted to use the second session to improve density on the area they previously worked on. 

I still feel frontal look has improved as desired (or close to)despite the suboptimal top and side views.

@GatsbyI am planning another session on May 31st with Eugenic with plan to use 1000 scalp and 2000 beard grafts. Hopefully that should improve the illusion of density from all angles. 

Yes, he did have his crown covered I did not take that into consideration. Where do you live ? If you are having doubts about graft survivability, you can maybe talk to another doctor.

On 4/23/2023 at 8:35 AM, Chiku said:

I completely agree with the point you made and that's what sets Eugenix apart from the rest, at least the rest of the HT clinics in India, and puts the at par with a handful of clinics in the world. There are at least 15-20 clinics in India itself which can give great results for Norwood 7 with untouched donor. They may not be on the list of approved clinics on this forum, but results posted on youtube speaks for themselves. But giving results on advanced norwood with depleted donors like that of Rahul Raichand,  @Gatsby, @IrishWarrior  sets Eugenix apart. If Eugenix were to stop taking on these difficult cases like these, they would cede their space to other clinics and many more which pop up every year.

Irish Warrior had 3231 scalp grafts implanted and 3769 beard grafts, with some hair from his previous transplant as well. For 3000 grafts they have been able to recreate a natural look. They should have only limited your expectations from the start. Another 1,000 grafts from the scalp and another 2,000 from beard may give coverage similar to @IrishWarrior

On 4/27/2023 at 12:41 AM, Chiku said:

 

 

 

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On 4/23/2023 at 6:47 AM, Chiku said:

You are right. I learned it as my results were maturing in the past few months. It is hard to find great results on norwood seven patients with severely depleted donor undergoing HT with use of body hair in ratio of 1:2, and only with 3000 odd total grafts. Perhaps None! Most Norwood 7 with depleted donor who got great results, with high proportion of beard hair use,( some cases even in 1:1 ratio)still had a lot of scalp hairs extracted with the total count being over 10,000 grafts. So they did not have severely depleted donor despite prior HTs.

Yes, in those cases that you mentioned they still had sufficient donor left.